Re: [Straying from the Topic] Installing from scratch Apache +mod_perl + Apache::ASP (+maybe others) on unix

2002-02-06 Thread Ged Haywood

Hi there,

On Thu, 7 Feb 2002, Rod Butcher wrote:


 professionals are being driven mad, despite reading the Guide (which despite
 being complete is still mysterious, it comes across as having a mission
 statement to contain everything rather than to be useful, sorry). 

Patches, chapters, help are always welcome I'm sure.

 My .05 is that all development be stopped until the instal process
 is up to the same standard as M$. This is what made M$ rich, the
 sheer installability and usability. I was visiting somebody
 yesterday and he had Win2K installing while we talked for an hour.

Yeah, I had a car like that once, but I got rid of it.

When I installed the operating system on a Mac last year it took
about three minutes - including all the tools, browsers and wotnot
that you could wish for - with no intervention from me at all.
After the pain I've been through with some W1nd0ze installations
it was very refreshing.  So I guess what I'm saying is that there's
a lot more to it than that, or Apple would be ruling the world.

73,
Ged.




Re: [Straying from the Topic] Installing from scratch Apache + mod_perl + Apache::ASP (+maybe others) on unix

2002-02-06 Thread Paul Lindner

Two things,

First check out http://www.apachetoolbox.com/ About as out-of-the-box
as you can get.  Last time I tried it seemed to 'do the right thing'
for me.

For mod_perl specifics you might also check out chapter 1 of the
mod_perl Developer's Cookbook.  I think it's a pretty good stab at
showing a novice how to compile and install apache+mod_perl (though
not mod_ssl... alas) The complete chapter is online at
http://www.modperlcookbook.org/


Regards,
Paul


On Thu, Feb 07, 2002 at 12:04:19AM +, Ged Haywood wrote:
 Hi there,
 
 On Thu, 7 Feb 2002, Rod Butcher wrote:
 
 
  professionals are being driven mad, despite reading the Guide (which despite
  being complete is still mysterious, it comes across as having a mission
  statement to contain everything rather than to be useful, sorry). 
 
 Patches, chapters, help are always welcome I'm sure.
 
  My .05 is that all development be stopped until the instal process
  is up to the same standard as M$. This is what made M$ rich, the
  sheer installability and usability. I was visiting somebody
  yesterday and he had Win2K installing while we talked for an hour.
 
 Yeah, I had a car like that once, but I got rid of it.
 
 When I installed the operating system on a Mac last year it took
 about three minutes - including all the tools, browsers and wotnot
 that you could wish for - with no intervention from me at all.
 After the pain I've been through with some W1nd0ze installations
 it was very refreshing.  So I guess what I'm saying is that there's
 a lot more to it than that, or Apple would be ruling the world.
 
 73,
 Ged.

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mod_perl Developer's Cookbook   http://www.modperlcookbook.org/
 Human Rights Declaration   http://www.unhchr.ch/udhr/index.htm



Re: [Straying from the Topic] Installing from scratch Apache + mod_perl + Apache::ASP (+maybe others) on unix

2002-02-06 Thread Will Waggoner

I agree that Apache Toolbox does a nice job for apache/mod_perl
installation -- even goes out and gets the source for you.  I would like to
mention that I got a great deal of benefit from the INSTALL document from
the mod_ssl distribution -- it contains many examples of configuring and
compiling common Apache configurations such as
Apache+SSL+mod_perl+PHP...etc...  It went a long way towards alleviating my
confusion when I first started working with Apache.

Will
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Subject: Re: [Straying from the Topic] Installing from scratch Apache +
mod_perl + Apache::ASP (+maybe others) on unix


 Two things,

 First check out http://www.apachetoolbox.com/ About as out-of-the-box
 as you can get.  Last time I tried it seemed to 'do the right thing'
 for me.

 For mod_perl specifics you might also check out chapter 1 of the
 mod_perl Developer's Cookbook.  I think it's a pretty good stab at
 showing a novice how to compile and install apache+mod_perl (though
 not mod_ssl... alas) The complete chapter is online at
 http://www.modperlcookbook.org/


 Regards,
 Paul


 On Thu, Feb 07, 2002 at 12:04:19AM +, Ged Haywood wrote:
  Hi there,
 
  On Thu, 7 Feb 2002, Rod Butcher wrote:
 
 
   professionals are being driven mad, despite reading the Guide (which
despite
   being complete is still mysterious, it comes across as having a
mission
   statement to contain everything rather than to be useful, sorry).
 
  Patches, chapters, help are always welcome I'm sure.
 
   My .05 is that all development be stopped until the instal process
   is up to the same standard as M$. This is what made M$ rich, the
   sheer installability and usability. I was visiting somebody
   yesterday and he had Win2K installing while we talked for an hour.
 
  Yeah, I had a car like that once, but I got rid of it.
 
  When I installed the operating system on a Mac last year it took
  about three minutes - including all the tools, browsers and wotnot
  that you could wish for - with no intervention from me at all.
  After the pain I've been through with some W1nd0ze installations
  it was very refreshing.  So I guess what I'm saying is that there's
  a lot more to it than that, or Apple would be ruling the world.
 
  73,
  Ged.

 --
 Paul Lindner[EMAIL PROTECTED]   | | | | |  |  |  |   |   |

 mod_perl Developer's Cookbook   http://www.modperlcookbook.org/
  Human Rights Declaration   http://www.unhchr.ch/udhr/index.htm