Re: Apache::Reload and INC path partialy working
Here's my perl.conf (sourced by httpd.conf) start LoadModule perl_module modules/mod_perl.so PerlSetEnv PERL5LIB /home/bruce/public_html/ffball/myff on second thought, try PerlSwitches -I/home/bruce/public_html/ffball/myff or PerlSwitches -Mlib=/home/bruce/public_html/ffball/myff instead of PERL5LIB --Geoff
Re: Apache::Reload and INC path partialy working
Hi Folks Fascinating to see this on a non-Windows box. Reloading modules after they have been editied, eg httpd like so: PerlModule Apache::Reload PerlInitHandler Apache::Reload PerlSetVar ReloadAll Off PerlSetVar ReloadModules "CGI CGI::Application ... Sweep::*" works about 99% of the time under Win2K and XP. I've been assuming it's a Windows thing. Perhaps the problem lies deeper? Server Version: Apache/2.0.46 (Win32) mod_perl/1.99_10-dev Perl/v5.8.0 -- Ron Savage, [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 14/08/2003. Room EF 312 Deakin University, 221 Burwood Highway, Burwood, VIC 3125, Australia Phone: +61-3-9251 7067, Fax: +61-3-9251 7604 http://www.deakin.edu.au/~rons
Re: Apache::Reload and INC path partialy working
Bruce Tennant wrote: I'm trying to do some development work with mod_perl and find restarting the server a pain. So I setup Apache::Reload, but it doesn't seem to want to see my local devel directory all the time. Here's my settings Apache/2.0.40 mod_perl-1.99_7 please upgrade to the latest CVS version and try again - 1.99_07 is very old. Linux 2.4.20-8 (RedHat9 I think) Here's my perl.conf (sourced by httpd.conf) start LoadModule perl_module modules/mod_perl.so PerlSetEnv PERL5LIB /home/bruce/public_html/ffball/myff Here's the problem. It seems that the reload module is finding the local modules okay as it shows up in the error_log as checking the mtime. But when they do change, it dies when it tries to reload them and says they aren't in the @INC path. ok. can you show us @INC before and after the reload attempt? I'm curious as to whether PERL5LIB is being properly added to @INC for the request time interpreters. also, does it fail if you reload modules that are not in @INC? for instance, try touching CGI.pm or something in your site_lib and watch the debug messages. So it's like it is half working. Has anyone ! else seen this problem and have a possible fix? we'll find a fix if we can isolate and reproduce the problem, don't worry :) --Geoff
Fwd: Re: Apache::Reload and INC path partialy working
Forwarding message as I didn't realize I was missing the list. Geoffrey Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 14:18:37 -0400From: Geoffrey Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: Bruce Tennant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject: Re: Apache::Reload and INC path partialy workingok, I'll take a look at this.please repost to the list, though, so others can help and your results are recorded.and no, there is no rpm package for the latest CVS version that I know about - you'll need to compile it yourself (which is easy, don't worry :)--GeoffBruce Tennant wrote:> The INC is correct (it has the new path in it).> > But if I touch a file in the added directory, it detects the file as > being changed (uses proper INC), but seems to not find it when it is > trying to reload it (sees base INC).> > I tried another thing, use a startup.pl file, it seems to work 90% of > the time. Sometimes when a file is changed or reloaded, one of the sub > httpd process will say it knows nothing about the reloaded module. But > I can work w/this as a hitting reload on the browser fixes this.> > Here's the INC when no module is changed:> /home/bruce/public_html/ffball/myff > /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi/Apache2 > /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0 > /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi > /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.0 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl > /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi > /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl .> > Here's the INC after I touched Apache/DBI.pm in site_perl and it was > reloaded (seen in log)> > /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi/Apache2 > /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0 > /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi > /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.0 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl > /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi > /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl > /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0 .> > It would seem it dropped the perl5lib line.> > Oh also, if I remove the "use lib" line in my top file, none of my local > modules will load. I though the PERL5LIB was suppose to add to the base > INC and make it so you didn't need to use "use lib". Maybe this is the > root of the problem.> > But as I mentioned, if using a startup script w/PerlRequire, the reloads > seem to work.> > Do you know if there's a new rpm package for mod-perl (RH9)?> > */Geoffrey Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>/* wrote:> > > > Bruce Tennant wrote:> > I'm trying to do some development work with mod_perl and find> > restarting the server a pain. So I setup Apache::Reload, but it> > doesn't seem to want to see my local devel directory all the time.> >> > Here's my settings> > Apache/2.0.40> > mod_perl-1.99_7> > please upgrade to the latest CVS version and try again - 1.99_07 is> very old.> > > > Linux 2.4.20-8 (RedHat9 I think)> >> >> > Here's my perl.conf (sourced by httpd.conf)> > start> >> > LoadModule perl_module modules/mod_perl.so> >> > PerlSetEnv PERL5LIB /home/bruce/public_html/ffball/myff> > >> > Here's the problem. It seems that the reload module is finding the> > local modules okay as it shows up in the error_log as checking the> > mtime. But when th! ey do change, it dies when it tries to reload> > them and says they aren't in the @INC path.> > ok. can you show us @INC before and after the reload attempt? I'm> curious> as to whether PERL5LIB is being properly added to @INC for the> request time> interpreters.> > also, does it fail if you reload modules that are not in @INC? for> instance, try touching CGI.pm or something in your site_lib and> watch the> debug messages.> > >> > So it's like it is half working.> >> > Has anyone ! else seen this problem and have a possible fix?> > we'll find a fix if we can isolate and reproduce the problem, don't> worry :)> > --Geoff> > > > www.bluewolverine.com> > > Do you Yahoo!?> Yahoo! SiteBuilder > - Free, > easy-to-use web site design softwarewww.bluewolverine.com Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software
Apache::Reload and INC path partialy working
I'm trying to do some development work with mod_perl and find restarting the server a pain. So I setup Apache::Reload, but it doesn't seem to want to see my local devel directory all the time.Here's my settingsApache/2.0.40mod_perl-1.99_7Linux 2.4.20-8 (RedHat9 I think)Here's my perl.conf (sourced by httpd.conf)startLoadModule perl_module modules/mod_perl.soPerlSetEnv PERL5LIB /home/bruce/public_html/ffball/myffPerlSetVar INC /home/bruce/public_html/ffball/myffPerlModule Apache2PerlModule Apache::ReloadPerlInitHandler Apache::ReloadPerlSetVar ReloadDebug On# PerlSetVar ReloadModules "FFMgr::*"# This will allow execution of mod_perl to compile your scripts to# subroutines which it will execute directly, avoiding the costly# compile process for most requests.#Alias /perl /var/www/perl SetHandler perl-script PerlHandler ModPerl::Registry::handler PerlOptions +ParseHeaders Options +ExecCGI SetHandler perl-script PerlHandler ModPerl::Registry::handler PerlOptions +ParseHeaders Options +ExecCGI end---The PerlSetVar INC line was a futile test.Here's the problem. It seems that the reload module is finding the local modules okay as it shows up in the error_log as checking the mtime. But when they do change, it dies when it tries to reload them and says they aren't in the @INC path.So it's like it is half working.Has anyone else seen this problem and have a possible fix?Thanks-Brucewww.bluewolverine.com Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software
Re: Apache::Reload and INC path partialy working
Ugh! Not use to lists that reply to author. Okay to resay what I sent to Geoffrey. using the -I switch in the config file works, unlike the PerlSetEnv PERL5LIBGeoffrey Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Here's my perl.conf (sourced by httpd.conf)>> start LoadModule perl_module modules/mod_perl.so PerlSetEnv PERL5LIB /home/bruce/public_html/ffball/myffon second thought, tryPerlSwitches -I/home/bruce/public_html/ffball/myfforPerlSwitches -Mlib=/home/bruce/public_html/ffball/myffinstead of PERL5LIB--Geoffwww.bluewolverine.com Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software
Re: Apache::Reload and @INC
Igor Vylusko wrote: in doc http://perl.apache.org/docs/2.0/api/mod_perl-2.0/Apache/Reload.html declared that when using Apache::Reload I may define additional lib in httpd.conf: PerlSetEnv PERL5LIB /home/httpd/perl/extra But when I enable PerlInitHandler Apache::Reload in config all libs defined in PERL5LIB are gone away from @INC. I have Apache 1.3.27, mod_perl 1.27, Apache::Reload 0.07, perl 5.8.0 on RH7.2 and try PerlSetEnv PERL5LIB in main config section as well as in VirtualHost sections. I have bulk of VirtualHosts and would like make @INC different for each one(i.e. not use lib ... in startup.pl). SB> It's not easy with mod_perl 1.0. The manpage is talking about changing SB> @INC globally for the whole server. I usually do that with 'use lib' in SB> startup.pl. I define PerlSetEnv PERL5LIB globaly for the whole server but PERL5LIB was stripped out from @INC anyway on enabling PerlInitHandler Apache::Reload in _any_ vhost. I am using PerlSetEnv PERL5LIB per vhost basis and it works fine for me without Apache::Reload. I can't reproduce what you see with Apache::Reload and I don't see anything in the code that mangles @INC. Though what I do see, is that if you define PERL5LIB outside a VirtualHost, it overrides any PERL5LIB defined inside all VirtualHosts, no matter if you use Apache::Reload or not. I don't remember if that's how it should be or whether it's a bug. Those who use vhosts can probably help rectify the issue here. __ Stas BekmanJAm_pH --> Just Another mod_perl Hacker http://stason.org/ mod_perl Guide ---> http://perl.apache.org mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://use.perl.org http://apacheweek.com http://modperlbook.org http://apache.org http://ticketmaster.com
Re[2]: Apache::Reload and @INC
>> in doc >> http://perl.apache.org/docs/2.0/api/mod_perl-2.0/Apache/Reload.html >> declared that when using Apache::Reload I may define additional lib >> in httpd.conf: PerlSetEnv PERL5LIB /home/httpd/perl/extra >> But when I enable PerlInitHandler Apache::Reload in config all libs defined in >> PERL5LIB are gone away from @INC. >> I have Apache 1.3.27, mod_perl 1.27, Apache::Reload 0.07, perl 5.8.0 >> on RH7.2 and try PerlSetEnv PERL5LIB in main config section as well as >> in VirtualHost sections. >> I have bulk of VirtualHosts and would like make @INC different for each >> one(i.e. not use lib ... in startup.pl). SB> It's not easy with mod_perl 1.0. The manpage is talking about changing SB> @INC globally for the whole server. I usually do that with 'use lib' in SB> startup.pl. I define PerlSetEnv PERL5LIB globaly for the whole server but PERL5LIB was stripped out from @INC anyway on enabling PerlInitHandler Apache::Reload in _any_ vhost. I am using PerlSetEnv PERL5LIB per vhost basis and it works fine for me without Apache::Reload. >> Has anybody run across this problem? >> If sowhat is my solution? SB> There are several solutions, none of which is very helpful in SB> production, since they either slow things down or may cause collisions SB> when modules with the same names are loaded, see: SB> http://perl.apache.org/docs/1.0/guide/config.html#Is_There_a_Way_to_Modify__INC_on_a_Per_Virtual_Host_or_Per_Location_Basis_ I would like just set PerlInitHandler Apache::Reload on several vhosts only for developing purposes and preserve everything else at that. Thanks for advice, Igor.
Re: Apache::Reload and @INC
Igor Vylusko wrote: Hi All, in doc http://perl.apache.org/docs/2.0/api/mod_perl-2.0/Apache/Reload.html declared that when using Apache::Reload I may define additional lib in httpd.conf: PerlSetEnv PERL5LIB /home/httpd/perl/extra But when I enable PerlInitHandler Apache::Reload in config all libs defined in PERL5LIB are gone away from @INC. I have Apache 1.3.27, mod_perl 1.27, Apache::Reload 0.07, perl 5.8.0 on RH7.2 and try PerlSetEnv PERL5LIB in main config section as well as in VirtualHost sections. I have bulk of VirtualHosts and would like make @INC different for each one(i.e. not use lib ... in startup.pl). It's not easy with mod_perl 1.0. The manpage is talking about changing @INC globally for the whole server. I usually do that with 'use lib' in startup.pl. Has anybody run across this problem? If sowhat is my solution? There are several solutions, none of which is very helpful in production, since they either slow things down or may cause collisions when modules with the same names are loaded, see: http://perl.apache.org/docs/1.0/guide/config.html#Is_There_a_Way_to_Modify__INC_on_a_Per_Virtual_Host_or_Per_Location_Basis_ _ Stas Bekman JAm_pH -- Just Another mod_perl Hacker http://stason.org/ mod_perl Guide http://perl.apache.org/guide mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://ticketmaster.com http://apacheweek.com http://singlesheaven.com http://perl.apache.org http://perlmonth.com/
Apache::Reload and @INC
Hi All, in doc http://perl.apache.org/docs/2.0/api/mod_perl-2.0/Apache/Reload.html declared that when using Apache::Reload I may define additional lib in httpd.conf: PerlSetEnv PERL5LIB /home/httpd/perl/extra But when I enable PerlInitHandler Apache::Reload in config all libs defined in PERL5LIB are gone away from @INC. I have Apache 1.3.27, mod_perl 1.27, Apache::Reload 0.07, perl 5.8.0 on RH7.2 and try PerlSetEnv PERL5LIB in main config section as well as in VirtualHost sections. I have bulk of VirtualHosts and would like make @INC different for each one(i.e. not use lib ... in startup.pl). Has anybody run across this problem? If sowhat is my solution? Thanks a lot, Igor.
