RE: [OT] Wanted: beginning perl books for poor kids

2002-11-01 Thread Joe Breeden
I would guess that these kids do not have access to computers outside school. Which 
makes access to  printed material advantageous. I guess a printer would be nice, but 
by the time the cost of it, paper, ink, and other supplies are factored in, I would 
guess that books would be cheaper.

> -Original Message-
> From: Stone, Derrick J [mailto:DJS6D@;hscmail.mcc.virginia.edu]
> Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 9:01 AM
> To: John Saylor; Nick Tonkin
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [OT] Wanted: beginning perl books for poor kids
> 
> 
> Amen.
> http://www.comp.leeds.ac.uk/Perl/start.html
> http://archive.ncsa.uiuc.edu/General/Training/PerlIntro/
> http://www.ebb.org/PickingUpPerl/
> http://www.cclabs.missouri.edu/things/instruction/perl/perlcourse.html
> http://www.lanka.pair.com/techweb/perl/tutor/
> oh wait... did you say spanish?
> http://epq.com.co/~cjara/perl/tutorial.html
> no? German?
> http://www.tekromancer.com/perl/inhalt.html
> Japanese?
> http://plaza27.mbn.or.jp/~satomii/jdoc/
> 
> Perldoc is a challenge if you're new, because the syntax can 
> be hard to pick up. But for a good tutorial, a nice printer 
> would go a long way...
> 
> Derrick Stone
> Internet Specialist
> Web Development Center
> UVa Health System
> ICQ# 1464194
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: John Saylor [mailto:johns@;worldwinner.com]
> Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 9:05 AM
> To: Nick Tonkin
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [OT] Wanted: beginning perl books for poor kids
> 
> 
> Hi
> 
> ( 02.10.31 21:57 -0800 ) Nick Tonkin:
> > I'm excited to get them going in perl, and I want to appeal 
> to the list
> > for donations of books on learning perl.
> 
> I'd say the best 'books' are all on line. Don't underestimate the
> [lowly] man pages. Or perldoc [-f].
> 
> And there are stories and tutorials and good stuff at 
> perl.apache.org or
> perlmonks.org or www.perl.org [and so on]. Hopefully, your 
> students [or
> school] has/have the resources necessary to use the on line resources.
> 
> Good luck!
> 
> -- 
> .--- ...
> 
> 



RE: [OT] Wanted: beginning perl books for poor kids

2002-11-01 Thread Stone, Derrick J
Amen.
http://www.comp.leeds.ac.uk/Perl/start.html
http://archive.ncsa.uiuc.edu/General/Training/PerlIntro/
http://www.ebb.org/PickingUpPerl/
http://www.cclabs.missouri.edu/things/instruction/perl/perlcourse.html
http://www.lanka.pair.com/techweb/perl/tutor/
oh wait... did you say spanish?
http://epq.com.co/~cjara/perl/tutorial.html
no? German?
http://www.tekromancer.com/perl/inhalt.html
Japanese?
http://plaza27.mbn.or.jp/~satomii/jdoc/

Perldoc is a challenge if you're new, because the syntax can be hard to pick up. But 
for a good tutorial, a nice printer would go a long way...

Derrick Stone
Internet Specialist
Web Development Center
UVa Health System
ICQ# 1464194


-Original Message-
From: John Saylor [mailto:johns@;worldwinner.com]
Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 9:05 AM
To: Nick Tonkin
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [OT] Wanted: beginning perl books for poor kids


Hi

( 02.10.31 21:57 -0800 ) Nick Tonkin:
> I'm excited to get them going in perl, and I want to appeal to the list
> for donations of books on learning perl.

I'd say the best 'books' are all on line. Don't underestimate the
[lowly] man pages. Or perldoc [-f].

And there are stories and tutorials and good stuff at perl.apache.org or
perlmonks.org or www.perl.org [and so on]. Hopefully, your students [or
school] has/have the resources necessary to use the on line resources.

Good luck!

-- 
.--- ...




RE: [OT] Wanted: beginning perl books for poor kids

2002-11-01 Thread Joe Breeden
Me too. (and sorry to for a couple of private replies its early and I haven't had much 
caffeine this morning).

> -Original Message-
> From: Ryan Parr [mailto:ryanparr@;precisiontechonline.com]
> Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 12:57 AM
> To: Nick Tonkin; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [OT] Wanted: beginning perl books for poor kids
> 
> 
> What open-source geek doesn't understand the importance, and 
> calling, of
> supporting your community?
> 
> Count me in. I think it's great that you are donating your time and
> patience. Teaching isn't easy, but you've got a great cause. 
> Send me your
> shipping address and I'll send you a Llama book.
> 
>  http://www.rain.org/~artworks/NewATW/students/norma_web/sonar.html is
> striking. I hope this girl goes on to great things.
> 
> --
> Ryan
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Nick Tonkin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 9:57 PM
> Subject: [OT] Wanted: beginning perl books for poor kids
> 
> 
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I am going to be working with a small group of 
> "disadvantaged" youngsters
> > here teaching them how to build web applications with perl and
> > apache.
> >
> > These are mostly Latino kids who have been doing analog and 
> digital art
> > for years and have self-selected into webmastering, 
> html-ing and such.
> >
> > I'm excited to get them going in perl, and I want to appeal 
> to the list
> > for donations of books on learning perl.
> >
> > Of course I'm most hopeful that we can get half a dozen 
> copies of the
> > Llama book and use it as a sort of textbook, but anything will be
> > gratefully accepted.
> >
> > An existing site that shows some of the art these kids make 
> (and also
> > why we need a new one!) can be viewed at 
> http://www.rain.org/~artworks/
> >
> > A cool project by one of the students is at
> > 
> http://www.rain.org/%7Eartworks/NewATW/students/norma_web/norm
a_intro.html
>
> Thanks folks,
>
> - nick
>
> 
> Nick Tonkin   {|8^)>
>
>
>




Re: [OT] Wanted: beginning perl books for poor kids

2002-11-01 Thread John Saylor
Hi

( 02.10.31 21:57 -0800 ) Nick Tonkin:
> I'm excited to get them going in perl, and I want to appeal to the list
> for donations of books on learning perl.

I'd say the best 'books' are all on line. Don't underestimate the
[lowly] man pages. Or perldoc [-f].

And there are stories and tutorials and good stuff at perl.apache.org or
perlmonks.org or www.perl.org [and so on]. Hopefully, your students [or
school] has/have the resources necessary to use the on line resources.

Good luck!

-- 
.--- ...




Re: [OT] Wanted: beginning perl books for poor kids

2002-10-31 Thread Ryan Parr
What open-source geek doesn't understand the importance, and calling, of
supporting your community?

Count me in. I think it's great that you are donating your time and
patience. Teaching isn't easy, but you've got a great cause. Send me your
shipping address and I'll send you a Llama book.

 http://www.rain.org/~artworks/NewATW/students/norma_web/sonar.html is
striking. I hope this girl goes on to great things.

--
Ryan

- Original Message -
From: "Nick Tonkin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 9:57 PM
Subject: [OT] Wanted: beginning perl books for poor kids


>
> Hi all,
>
> I am going to be working with a small group of "disadvantaged" youngsters
> here teaching them how to build web applications with perl and
> apache.
>
> These are mostly Latino kids who have been doing analog and digital art
> for years and have self-selected into webmastering, html-ing and such.
>
> I'm excited to get them going in perl, and I want to appeal to the list
> for donations of books on learning perl.
>
> Of course I'm most hopeful that we can get half a dozen copies of the
> Llama book and use it as a sort of textbook, but anything will be
> gratefully accepted.
>
> An existing site that shows some of the art these kids make (and also
> why we need a new one!) can be viewed at http://www.rain.org/~artworks/
>
> A cool project by one of the students is at
> http://www.rain.org/%7Eartworks/NewATW/students/norma_web/norma_intro.html
>
> Thanks folks,
>
> - nick
>
> 
> Nick Tonkin   {|8^)>
>
>
>