RE: Templating system opinions (CGI::Application in connection with either HTML::Template or Template::Toolkit)

2003-07-24 Thread Jesse Erlbaum
Hey Randal --

 Maybe because it competes with OpenInteract, which is far 
 more established.

I don't really think OI and CGI-App are in competition at all.  OI
attempts to be a uber-framework, a la Mason -- or maybe more like
ColdFusion or WebObjects.CGI::Application just focuses on web
application state management.

CGI::Application doesn't try to bolt on anything else.  The developer
can choose their favorite modules for templating system, database
interface, object persistence, session management, etc.  CGI-App is
specifically made to allow developers to choose from the best available
CPAN libraries, rather than to pre-select for them.

You could probably use CGI::Application to implement part of
OpenInteract, but you wouldn't use one in lieu of the other.  They're
not really comparable at all.

TTYL,

-Jesse-


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Re: Templating system opinions (CGI::Application in connection with either HTML::Template or Template::Toolkit)

2003-07-23 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
 Dave == Dave Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Dave I'm curious as to why the combination of CGI::Application and
Dave HTML::Template hasn't taken off ... CGI::Application seems to allow a
Dave software developer to create an entire CGI app that can be stored and
Dave distributed as a module on CPAN, but only a couple such app/modules
Dave have been so added.

Maybe because it competes with OpenInteract, which is far more established.

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Re: Templating system opinions (CGI::Application in connection with either HTML::Template or Template::Toolkit)

2003-07-23 Thread Eric
Hi,

That was really interesting to look at. OpenInteract is really impressive. 
I guess there is always a cost to having a big
do it all type of system. That is what made me avoid Mason, it just blew my 
head off for complexity. Now it is true, I am looking for a bit more than 
what CGI::Application offers out of the box, but it may well end up being 
worthwhile to just extend rather than convert. I really appreciate the 
simple philosophy that HTML::Template and CGI::Application follow.

One question, how do you judge that OpenInteract is more established? Is 
does look like it is actively developed, but I never heard of it before, 
and I couldn't find much indication of how popular it is.



Thanks,

Eric

At 09:23 AM 2003-07-23, Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
 Dave == Dave Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Dave I'm curious as to why the combination of CGI::Application and
Dave HTML::Template hasn't taken off ... CGI::Application seems to allow a
Dave software developer to create an entire CGI app that can be stored and
Dave distributed as a module on CPAN, but only a couple such app/modules
Dave have been so added.
Maybe because it competes with OpenInteract, which is far more established.

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