Re: CORE::format() and CORE::write() under 5.6.x

2001-04-30 Thread Stas Bekman

On Mon, 30 Apr 2001, Ken Williams wrote:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stas Bekman) wrote:
> >On Mon, 30 Apr 2001, Matt Sergeant wrote:
> >> On Mon, 30 Apr 2001, Stas Bekman wrote:
> >> > cool, but this section in the guide was stating the CORE::format() doesn't
> >> > work.  And it's still doesn't under mod_perl. So doesn't CORE::write().
> >>
> >> Right, but it would be nice to point to an alternative. The module is
> >> called Text::Reform, by the way.
> >
> >True. Thanks.
> >
> >Does it have any problems with working under mod_perl? looks like a pure
> >perl to me.
>
>
> Damian claims to only ever write code in pure Perl.

I was told by quite a few people that this is because
of Damian academic background. With all the respect to Damian, it seems
that the functionality has a higher preference than performance at his
code. I've to admit though that the functionality is great :)

One of the people I had a bad luck to be in touch with, wrote an app using
Parse::RecDescent as a grammar parser. It was taking *only* a few minutes
to parse a big file. Which was quite innacceptible for the web app. I'm
imagine that if some of memory mangling parts of Parse::RecDescent were
rewritten in XS/C, it'll run much faster. But that might be not true.

Anyway, I don't see any reason why won't it work under mod_perl. It
doesn't have BEGIN/END blocks (e.g. FindBin doesn't work under mod_perl
for because it relies on BEGIN block to be recompiled on each request),
not tie, no globals (other than the standard ones).

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Re: CORE::format() and CORE::write() under 5.6.x

2001-04-30 Thread Ken Williams

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stas Bekman) wrote:
>On Mon, 30 Apr 2001, Matt Sergeant wrote:
>> On Mon, 30 Apr 2001, Stas Bekman wrote:
>> > cool, but this section in the guide was stating the CORE::format() doesn't
>> > work.  And it's still doesn't under mod_perl. So doesn't CORE::write().
>>
>> Right, but it would be nice to point to an alternative. The module is
>> called Text::Reform, by the way.
>
>True. Thanks.
>
>Does it have any problems with working under mod_perl? looks like a pure
>perl to me.


Damian claims to only ever write code in pure Perl.


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Re: CORE::format() and CORE::write() under 5.6.x

2001-04-30 Thread Matt Sergeant

On Tue, 1 May 2001, Stas Bekman wrote:

> On Mon, 30 Apr 2001, Matt Sergeant wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 30 Apr 2001, Stas Bekman wrote:
> >
> > > cool, but this section in the guide was stating the CORE::format() doesn't
> > > work.  And it's still doesn't under mod_perl. So doesn't CORE::write().
> >
> > Right, but it would be nice to point to an alternative. The module is
> > called Text::Reform, by the way.
>
> True. Thanks.
>
> Does it have any problems with working under mod_perl? looks like a pure
> perl to me.

I doubt it has problems because it's not magical (well, it's only magical
in the Damian Conway sense, not in the Larry Wall sense :-)

But I haven't tried it either, so don't take my word for it :-)

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Re: CORE::format() and CORE::write() under 5.6.x

2001-04-30 Thread Stas Bekman

On Mon, 30 Apr 2001, Matt Sergeant wrote:

> On Mon, 30 Apr 2001, Stas Bekman wrote:
>
> > cool, but this section in the guide was stating the CORE::format() doesn't
> > work.  And it's still doesn't under mod_perl. So doesn't CORE::write().
>
> Right, but it would be nice to point to an alternative. The module is
> called Text::Reform, by the way.

True. Thanks.

Does it have any problems with working under mod_perl? looks like a pure
perl to me.


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Re: CORE::format() and CORE::write() under 5.6.x

2001-04-30 Thread Matt Sergeant

On Mon, 30 Apr 2001, Stas Bekman wrote:

> cool, but this section in the guide was stating the CORE::format() doesn't
> work.  And it's still doesn't under mod_perl. So doesn't CORE::write().

Right, but it would be nice to point to an alternative. The module is
called Text::Reform, by the way.

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Re: CORE::format() and CORE::write() under 5.6.x

2001-04-29 Thread Stas Bekman

On Sun, 29 Apr 2001, Matt Sergeant wrote:

> On Sun, 29 Apr 2001, Stas Bekman wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 22 Apr 2001, Stas Bekman wrote:
> >
> > > There is this entry in the guide:
> > >
> > > 
> > > The interface to file handles which are linked to variables with
> > > Perl's tie() function is not yet complete. The format() and write()
> > > functions are missing. If you configure Perl with C, write() and
> > > format() should work just fine.
> > > 
> > >
> > > Is this still true under 5.6.x?
> >
> > if I rely on the perltie man page, these two aren't implemented in 5.6.x.
>
> Note that Damian Conway has released a replacement for format as a
> module. I forget what it's called now, but it's in his directory on CPAN
> (not Text::Autoformat, btw).

cool, but this section in the guide was stating the CORE::format() doesn't
work.  And it's still doesn't under mod_perl. So doesn't CORE::write().

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Re: CORE::format() and CORE::write() under 5.6.x

2001-04-29 Thread Matt Sergeant

On Sun, 29 Apr 2001, Stas Bekman wrote:

> On Sun, 22 Apr 2001, Stas Bekman wrote:
> 
> > There is this entry in the guide:
> >
> > 
> > The interface to file handles which are linked to variables with
> > Perl's tie() function is not yet complete. The format() and write()
> > functions are missing. If you configure Perl with C, write() and
> > format() should work just fine.
> > 
> >
> > Is this still true under 5.6.x?
> 
> if I rely on the perltie man page, these two aren't implemented in 5.6.x.

Note that Damian Conway has released a replacement for format as a
module. I forget what it's called now, but it's in his directory on CPAN
(not Text::Autoformat, btw).

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Re: CORE::format() and CORE::write() under 5.6.x

2001-04-29 Thread Stas Bekman

On Sun, 22 Apr 2001, Stas Bekman wrote:

> There is this entry in the guide:
>
> 
> The interface to file handles which are linked to variables with
> Perl's tie() function is not yet complete. The format() and write()
> functions are missing. If you configure Perl with C, write() and
> format() should work just fine.
> 
>
> Is this still true under 5.6.x?

if I rely on the perltie man page, these two aren't implemented in 5.6.x.

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Re: CORE::format() and CORE::write() under 5.6.x

2001-04-23 Thread Robin Berjon

At 20:48 22/04/2001 +0800, Stas Bekman wrote:
>There is this entry in the guide:
>
>
>The interface to file handles which are linked to variables with
>Perl's tie() function is not yet complete. The format() and write()
>functions are missing. If you configure Perl with C, write() and
>format() should work just fine.
>
>
>Is this still true under 5.6.x?

I _think_ that it is still true. At least, perltie and TieL::Handle seem to
say so. I don't know if anyone's working on that, isn't PerlIO going to
replace tied handles ?

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