Re: Pre-announce Apache::ConfigParser

2001-09-17 Thread Olivier Poitrey

- Original Message -
From: Blair Zajac [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Geoffrey Young [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 1:52 AM
Subject: Re: Pre-announce Apache::ConfigParser


 Apache::Admin::Config
 Pros

 Cons
 Lack of documentation
 Test suite with 2 tests

Purpose of this module was to parse, modify and write an apache (or apache
like)
configuration file without modifying the indentation and comments. It's very
basic
and not handle anything more than read, parse, write. More complexical
module can
be implemented on the top of it.

The documentation is now writen, check at the 0.06 version :
ftp://ftp.rhapsodyk.net/pub/devel/perl/Apache-Admin-Config-0.06.readme


regards

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Re: Pre-announce Apache::ConfigParser

2001-09-14 Thread Thomas Klausner

Hi!

 I swore there was yet a third candidate in this realm, but I didn't see it
 on brief inspection.
I am currently sort of working (haven't touched for some time) on
something called Apache::FakeEnv which should be something like a subclass of
Apache::FakeRequest, but which includes access to stuff defined in Apache
Config Files.

I am now using Config::General to parse the config file, which works, but
as Config::General doesn't handle eg. PerlSetVar in the way I need it, I
have to do some dirty tricks to use the data structure returned from
Config::General

A feature I would really like to see (or implement myself in some combined
verions of the various Config parsers) is a way to take a parsed config
and an URL and to get all values that apply to this URL

eg:

Location /test/
PerlSetVar foo bar
PerlSetVar baz bla
/Location

LocationMatch something
PerlSetVar foo NotBar
/LocationMatch

$conf-requested_uri('http://host/test/somehting/');

print $conf-dir_config('foo');   # prints 'NotBar'
print $conf-dir_config('baz');   # prints 'bla'

So, if there will be an Unified Apache Config Parsing Module, I would like
to implement this feature (if it's not allready there ...)

domm





RE: Pre-announce Apache::ConfigParser

2001-09-13 Thread mgraham



 I swore there was yet a third candidate in this realm, but I 
 didn't see it on brief inspection.

Config::General also parses Apache-style config files, but I don't think it
handles Apache specific details like contexts.

Michael






RE: Pre-announce Apache::ConfigParser

2001-09-12 Thread Geoffrey Young

 

-Original Message-
From: Blair Zajac
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 9/12/01 5:41 PM
Subject: Pre-announce Apache::ConfigParser

Hello,

This is a preannounce of Apache::ConfigParser.  I wrote this to
allow programs separate from Apache to completely understand,
parse and manipulate Apache configuration files.

BTW, I appreciate you posting an RFC, mainly because I feel as though the
Apache module list has grown rapidly of late (which is not necessarily a bad
thing) but grown without that many RFCs, feedback, or attempts to build on
what others have already done.

that said, is this all that different from 
CPAN/modules/by-module/Apache/Apache-Admin-Config-0.05.tar.gz
?


I swore there was yet a third candidate in this realm, but I didn't see it
on brief inspection.

at any rate, can the two somehow be integrated into some mutually acceptable
module?

--Geoff







Re: Pre-announce Apache::ConfigParser

2001-09-12 Thread Blair Zajac

I missed the Apache-Admin-Config module in my search for Apache config
file parsers, otherwise I would have not written a new one :)  The
other parser was just announced after I finished this one is named
Apache::ConfigFile.

All three modules appear to treat the directives and contexts the
same, in that you can descend into the contexts to get directive's
specified there.

They could definitely be merged into a single module that does what
everybody needs.  I don't have the time to do this myself, but would
could help out.

A common API would have to be designed so that it would have all of the
features people needed.  Here's a quick review of the pluses and minuses
of the tree modules (obviously pro Apache::ConfigParser because it has
the features I need).

Apache::Admin::Config
Pros

Cons
Lack of documentation
Test suite with 2 tests

Apache::ConfigFile
Pros
Clear interface
Good documentation
Handles mod_perl Perl config directives
Overloaded method names to get config values
Automatic boolean conversion
Been around for a while
Cons
Test suite with one test

Apache::ConfigParser
Pro
Good documentation
Build tree structure of config allowing complicated
searches
Parses config file exactly as Apache does
Knows which directives can take relative path names
and makes them absolute automatically
Correctly parses directive values with 's and \'s
Allows searches on directives regardless of context
Allows searches up through context levels
Extensive test suite
Keeps track of where directives were set

Cons
Doesn't write out config files
No autoloaded calls
Not easily used interface

Is it possible to remove CPAN modules when a common interface is built?

Blair

Geoffrey Young wrote:
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Blair Zajac
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 9/12/01 5:41 PM
 Subject: Pre-announce Apache::ConfigParser
 
 Hello,
 
 This is a preannounce of Apache::ConfigParser.  I wrote this to
 allow programs separate from Apache to completely understand,
 parse and manipulate Apache configuration files.
 
 BTW, I appreciate you posting an RFC, mainly because I feel as though the
 Apache module list has grown rapidly of late (which is not necessarily a bad
 thing) but grown without that many RFCs, feedback, or attempts to build on
 what others have already done.
 
 that said, is this all that different from
 CPAN/modules/by-module/Apache/Apache-Admin-Config-0.05.tar.gz
 ?
 
 I swore there was yet a third candidate in this realm, but I didn't see it
 on brief inspection.
 
 at any rate, can the two somehow be integrated into some mutually acceptable
 module?
 
 --Geoff



RE: Pre-announce Apache::ConfigParser

2001-09-12 Thread Geoffrey Young


I'll let the other module authors answer your API questions - I was merely
starting the dialogue :)

Is it possible to remove CPAN modules when a common interface is built?

yes, PAUSE has a delete interface, which removes them from the various CPAN
mirrors.  there is also an archive project going on at PAUSE somewhere,
which has all the modules every uploaded (or something like that)

I have a module or two out there I ought to clean up myself ;)

--Geoff