Re: WYSIWYG Template Editor

2002-01-03 Thread Perrin Harkins

 Does anybody know a template engine, whose templates can be edited with a 
 WYSIWYG editor (favourably dreamweaver) as they will look when filled 
 with example data?

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Re: WYSIWYG Template Editor

2002-01-01 Thread Matt Sergeant

On Tue, 1 Jan 2002, Joachim Zobel wrote:


 Happy New Year.

 Does anybody know a template engine, whose templates can be edited with a
 WYSIWYG editor (favourably dreamweaver) as they will look when filled
 with example data?

If you use XSLT, there's a number of options available to you. Try
searching a site like http://www.cafeconlech.org/

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!-- Matt --
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Re: WYSIWYG Template Editor

2002-01-01 Thread C.Hauser - IT assistance GmbH

Basel, Dienstag, 1. Januar 2002, 13:32:54
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*see original email below*


Hallo Joachim


I use Dreamweaver with HTML::Mason. But none of the Perl based
solutions can be seen with data (as far I tested). You only see icons.
Right now UltraDev only works withs MS ASP and JSP.

I'm happy to hear about other suggestions :-)


Best Regards Christian  -  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  -

.


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Date: Dienstag, 1. Januar 2002, 13:13:42
Subject: WYSIWYG Template Editor


Happy New Year.

Does anybody know a template engine, whose templates can be edited with a 
WYSIWYG editor (favourably dreamweaver) as they will look when filled 
with example data?

Thanx,
Joachim
--
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koennen.- Bertolt Brecht - Leben des Galilei

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Re: WYSIWYG Template Editor

2002-01-01 Thread Les Mikesell

From: Matt Sergeant [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  Does anybody know a template engine, whose templates can be edited with a
  WYSIWYG editor (favourably dreamweaver) as they will look when filled
  with example data?

 If you use XSLT, there's a number of options available to you. Try
 searching a site like http://www.cafeconlech.org/

I can't reach that site - is the spelling correct?   I'd like to find something
that
would allow non-technical people to write their own templates for pages
that, as they are accessed, fill in variables pulled by a server-side http
request
to an XML data source.   To make things even more difficult, I'd like parts
of the resulting page to appear in editable form fields that could be modified
before submitting to yet another location.   We have data servers with
commodity
exchange data, and reporters that need to generate stories showing those
values,
sometimes including comments.   Some of the layouts never change, but it
would really be best if the reporters could generate and control their own
templates without having to understand all of the details involved.

Les Mikesell
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: WYSIWYG Template Editor

2002-01-01 Thread Robin Berjon

On Tuesday 01 January 2002 21:08, Les Mikesell wrote:
 From: Matt Sergeant [EMAIL PROTECTED]

   Does anybody know a template engine, whose templates can be edited with
   a WYSIWYG editor (favourably dreamweaver) as they will look when
   filled with example data?
 
  If you use XSLT, there's a number of options available to you. Try
  searching a site like http://www.cafeconlech.org/

 I can't reach that site - is the spelling correct?

No, it's http://www.cafeconleche.org/

  I'd like to find something that
 would allow non-technical people to write their own templates for pages
 that, as they are accessed, fill in variables pulled by a server-side http
 request to an XML data source.

This may not at all fit your needs but Illustrator 10 has data binding 
options and exports to SVG (which can then be viewed on the web). I haven't 
yet looked into it enough to know whether what it offers is sufficient or 
not. Given that Adobe is heading very heavily in the direction of end-user 
XML these days, you should probably look into GoLive 6 when it comes out 
(probably in less than a week).

Another option might be XML Spy. XML+XSLT editors are probably to replace 
HTML editors as time goes by and people increasingly realise just how much 
easier it is with real templates (as opposed to the stuff you get in current 
editors). Given that your data is XML and you need them to control the 
output's structure a bit to add form fields (which can't be done _yet_ with 
CSS), something that generates XSLT is probably the solution as any other 
XML-transforming option will likely require code (tough you might be able to 
do it in XPathScript).

 To make things even more difficult, I'd like parts
 of the resulting page to appear in editable form fields that could be
 modified before submitting to yet another location.   We have data servers
 with commodity
 exchange data, and reporters that need to generate stories showing those
 values,
 sometimes including comments.   Some of the layouts never change, but it
 would really be best if the reporters could generate and control their own
 templates without having to understand all of the details involved.

A lot of this depends on just how much layout power you need to give them, 
and on the degree of complexity and context-dependency of your source XML. If 
it's only simple stuff and the XML is rather context-free (ie element foo 
means the same thing and has pretty much the same layout irrespective of its 
relationship to the rest of the tree) then you could have some simple 
interface onto a backend that would generate user-specific stylesheets. Of 
course, I'm missing a lot of data and requirements about your project so this 
is all educated hand waving at best :-)

Happy new year all !

-- 
___
Robin Berjon [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- CTO
k n o w s c a p e : // venture knowledge agency www.knowscape.com
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Re: WYSIWYG Template Editor

2002-01-01 Thread Matt Sergeant

On Tue, 1 Jan 2002, Les Mikesell wrote:

 From: Matt Sergeant [EMAIL PROTECTED]

   Does anybody know a template engine, whose templates can be edited with a
   WYSIWYG editor (favourably dreamweaver) as they will look when filled
   with example data?
 
  If you use XSLT, there's a number of options available to you. Try
  searching a site like http://www.cafeconlech.org/

 I can't reach that site - is the spelling correct?   I'd like to find something
 that
 would allow non-technical people to write their own templates for pages
 that, as they are accessed, fill in variables pulled by a server-side http
 request
 to an XML data source.   To make things even more difficult, I'd like parts
 of the resulting page to appear in editable form fields that could be modified
 before submitting to yet another location.   We have data servers with
 commodity
 exchange data, and reporters that need to generate stories showing those
 values,
 sometimes including comments.   Some of the layouts never change, but it
 would really be best if the reporters could generate and control their own
 templates without having to understand all of the details involved.

One interesting tool is Xsplit from percussion. You might find it quite
interesting.

I missed the e off cafeconleche.org, fwiw.

-- 
!-- Matt --
:-Get a smart net/:-




RE: WYSIWYG Template Editor

2002-01-01 Thread Paul G. Weiss

Must be www.cafeconleche.org.
-P



-Original Message-
From: Matt Sergeant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2002 5:50 PM
To: Les Mikesell
Cc: Joachim Zobel; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: WYSIWYG Template Editor


On Tue, 1 Jan 2002, Les Mikesell wrote:

 From: Matt Sergeant [EMAIL PROTECTED]

   Does anybody know a template engine, whose templates can be edited
with a
   WYSIWYG editor (favourably dreamweaver) as they will look when
filled
   with example data?
 
  If you use XSLT, there's a number of options available to you. Try
  searching a site like http://www.cafeconlech.org/

 I can't reach that site - is the spelling correct?   I'd like to find
something
 that
 would allow non-technical people to write their own templates for pages
 that, as they are accessed, fill in variables pulled by a server-side http
 request
 to an XML data source.   To make things even more difficult, I'd like
parts
 of the resulting page to appear in editable form fields that could be
modified
 before submitting to yet another location.   We have data servers with
 commodity
 exchange data, and reporters that need to generate stories showing those
 values,
 sometimes including comments.   Some of the layouts never change, but it
 would really be best if the reporters could generate and control their own
 templates without having to understand all of the details involved.

One interesting tool is Xsplit from percussion. You might find it quite
interesting.

I missed the e off cafeconleche.org, fwiw.

-- 
!-- Matt --
:-Get a smart net/:-