Re: how come httpd doesn't start even though startup.pl is fine? (fwd)

2000-01-19 Thread Matt Sergeant

On Fri, 14 Jan 2000, Ricardo Kleemann wrote:
> Hmmm :-(
> 
> On 14 Jan 2000, Frank D. Cringle wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Without having checked your list, I'll wager that the "good" modules
> > are all pure perl and the "bad" ones use machine-language XS
> > extensions.
> 
> So typical modules like MD5 and MIME::Body are "bad" modules?

DBI, XML::Parser, mod_perl... :)

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Re: how come httpd doesn't start even though startup.pl is fine?(fwd)

2000-01-18 Thread Clay

Cliff Rayman wrote:

> i don't think he is saying that the module is "bad",
> he is saying that modules that use XS, with apache
> mod_perl have caused  problems with startup and restarts.
> based on the running posts regarding
>  dlopen and dlclose, i'd say he was correct.
>
> cliff rayman
> genwax.com
>
> Ricardo Kleemann wrote:
>
> > Hmmm :-(
> >
> > On 14 Jan 2000, Frank D. Cringle wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Without having checked your list, I'll wager that the "good" modules
> > > are all pure perl and the "bad" ones use machine-language XS
> > > extensions.
> >
> > So typical modules like MD5 and MIME::Body are "bad" modules?
> >
> > Ricardo

ok, as far as i can tell apxs is not compiled right with redhat 6.1 , i
recomp'd apache 1.3.9 {dso style}and modperl1.21

and not a prob for a day now




Re: how come httpd doesn't start even though startup.pl is fine?(fwd)

2000-01-18 Thread Cliff Rayman

i don't think he is saying that the module is "bad",
he is saying that modules that use XS, with apache
mod_perl have caused  problems with startup and restarts.
based on the running posts regarding
 dlopen and dlclose, i'd say he was correct.

cliff rayman
genwax.com

Ricardo Kleemann wrote:

> Hmmm :-(
>
> On 14 Jan 2000, Frank D. Cringle wrote:
>
> >
> > Without having checked your list, I'll wager that the "good" modules
> > are all pure perl and the "bad" ones use machine-language XS
> > extensions.
>
> So typical modules like MD5 and MIME::Body are "bad" modules?
>
> Ricardo



Re: how come httpd doesn't start even though startup.pl is fine?(fwd)

2000-01-18 Thread Ricardo Kleemann

Hmmm :-(

On 14 Jan 2000, Frank D. Cringle wrote:

> 
> Without having checked your list, I'll wager that the "good" modules
> are all pure perl and the "bad" ones use machine-language XS
> extensions.

So typical modules like MD5 and MIME::Body are "bad" modules?

Ricardo



Re: how come httpd doesn't start even though startup.pl is fine? (fwd)

2000-01-14 Thread Frank D. Cringle

Ricardo Kleemann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hmmm :-(
> 
> On 14 Jan 2000, Frank D. Cringle wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Without having checked your list, I'll wager that the "good" modules
> > are all pure perl and the "bad" ones use machine-language XS
> > extensions.
> 
> So typical modules like MD5 and MIME::Body are "bad" modules?

There is nothing wrong with the modules, that's why I put "bad" in
inverted commas.  They are only "bad" in the sense that they trigger a 
bug in dynamically-linked mod_perl.

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Re: how come httpd doesn't start even though startup.pl is fine? (fwd)

2000-01-14 Thread Frank D. Cringle

Ricardo Kleemann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hi everyone,
> 
> I don't know what's causing this, and there are no errors being logged in
> my error_log.
> 
> I'm running apache 1.3.9, mod_perl 1.21, linux 6.1
> 
> I have a startup.pl with a bunch of modules in it. If I run the startup.pl
> by itself it is fine, does not report errors... however, if I run httpd it
> dies, never gets off the ground. 

try runninng 'httpd -X' under gdb.

> If I go thru my list of modules and
> remove some of them, then everything starts up fine...

Without having checked your list, I'll wager that the "good" modules
are all pure perl and the "bad" ones use machine-language XS
extensions.

You will need to link mod_perl statically to apache or wait for a
resolution to this problem -- see the thread "Apache 1.3.9 + mod_perl
1.21 + Solaris 2.7 dumps core".

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