Re: understanding memory via ps -ely | grep http

2001-03-21 Thread Pierre Phaneuf

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> What's about FreeBSD?
> If shared memory is not compiled in kernel of FreeBSD I cant use GTop
> module because of absant of shared memory.
> So I dont know is there performance affect or not.

You do not have shared memory enabled in your kernel? Any reason? I'd
say that most Unix machines in the world have use for shared memory at
some point in time, it's a pretty safe thing to enable.

Anyway, the "share" thing in GTop is not about "SysV shared memory IPC",
but rather about memory shared between related processes (if they load
the same libraries for example, the kernel could share the read-only
parts of the library between the two processes instead of loading two
copies, thus saving memory).

-- 
"There are two major products that come out of Berkeley: LSD and Unix.
We don't believe this to be a coincidence."  -- Jeremy S. Anderson



Re: understanding memory via ps -ely | grep http

2001-03-20 Thread Stas Bekman

On Tue, 20 Mar 2001, Tim Gardner wrote:

> I have been trying to reduce/tune the memory requirements of an
> online game which uses mod_perl (Apache::Registry).  I have read the
> suggestions at http://perl.apache.org/tuning/ and am trying to follow
> them.  The first suggestion is to preload the modules by including
>
>  Perlrequire /var/www/perllib/startup.perl
>
> in httpd.conf and then in startup.perl doing:
>
>   #! /usr/local/bin/perl
>   use strict;
>   use lib "/var/www/perllib";
>   use Apache::DBI ();
>   use mymodules ();
>   1;
>
> According to the web page:
> >What this does is pull in all of the code used by the programs (but
> >does not import any of the module methods) into the main HTTPD
> >process, which then creates the child processes with the code
> >already in place.
>
> I have been monitoring memory usage with the command:
> ps -ely | grep http
>
> and getting output that looks something like this.
>
>   S   UID   PID  PPID  C PRI NI   RSS SZWCHAN TTY  TIME CMD
>   S  1003   318 1  0  40 18  4432  40960? ?4:37 cshttpd
>   S  1003   345   318  0  40 18  3320  40920? ?0:02 cshttpd
>   S 0  2835 1  0  41 20  8776  10344? ?0:34 httpd
>   S 60001  4895  2835  0  41 20 13272  18872? ?0:06 httpd
>   S 60001  4894  2835  0  41 20 13280  18872? ?0:07 httpd
>
> I understand that the RSS is the resident size in KB and the SZ
> column is the size of the process, but what should I be seeing in the
> way of reduced memory?  The 13MB/18MB is not much different from when
> I don't preload anything.  Should I be seeing something else?  I
> probably am not understanding what to look for.  Any suggestions or
> observations would be appreciated.

You want to read the first sections of:
http://perl.apache.org/guide/performance.html
particularly:
http://perl.apache.org/guide/performance.html#Know_Your_Operating_System

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Re: understanding memory via ps -ely | grep http

2001-03-20 Thread Perrin Harkins

On Tue, 20 Mar 2001, Tim Gardner wrote:
> I understand that the RSS is the resident size in KB and the SZ 
> column is the size of the process, but what should I be seeing in the 
> way of reduced memory?  The 13MB/18MB is not much different from when 
> I don't preload anything.  Should I be seeing something else?

You have to look at SHARE.  Subtract SHARE from RSS.

- Perrin