Re: perl5.6 (was: Shared variables, inner subs and our)

2001-03-20 Thread Jauder Ho


Unfortunately it is a requirement for this project. We need to parse utf8
XML and munge other XML using that data. I seem to have everything working
now although I had to fix some stuff in XML::DOM.

--Jauder

On Sun, 18 Mar 2001, Bogomolnyi Constantin wrote:

 Hi ,
 Unicode is a way of pain . don't go this way .
 specialy in 5.7.0 were it is broken .
 5.6.0 is  well you know what .
 There is many other systems to hold multilingual apps , that not require any
 unicode .

 I use 5.7.0 in production (i386 , BSD 4.2) and it runs perfectly . Except
 unicode
 support. 5.6.0 has a lot of bugs (witch were fixed in 5.7.0)

 Best
 Cb

 - Original Message -
 From: "Jauder Ho" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: "Bogomolnyi Constantin" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 8:44 AM
 Subject: Re: perl5.6 (was: Shared variables, inner subs and "our")


 
  Hello there, could you detail a little more about your Unicode experience
  with perl? I am currently evaluating what the best verion of perl to use
  for a multilingual application. Thanks.
 
  --Jauder
 
  On Fri, 16 Mar 2001, Bogomolnyi Constantin wrote:
 
   Hi ,
  
   You should probably try 5.7.0 witch is much more stable than 5.6.0 (you
   should not try unicode stuff , whitch is quite buggy)
  
   I use 5.7.0  on all my production servers without any problems .
  
   Best
   - Original Message -
   From: "Wim Kerkhoff" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: "modperl" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 6:20 AM
   Subject: Re: perl5.6 (was: Shared variables, inner subs and "our")
  
  
Stas Bekman wrote:
   
 our() and other perl5.6 new APIs are too early to be endorsed, as
 5.6 is
 not yet considered as a stable version for mod_perl production
 sites,
 therefore the guide barely touches on it.
   
Would you recommend the use of perl5.6 with mod_perl?  What you are
saying is making me queasy.
   
I'm asking because I've been having bad luck with Apache::Session and
some other modules in some mod_perl aware applications. Things aren't
comming out the data source properly, things are hanging, things
 aren't
locking/unlocking properly, etc. It could well be that the
 applications
I'm working with aren't using Sessions, Tie::Cache, etc properly. I
 may
downgrade to perl5.005 and give that a whirl...
   
--
   
Regards,
   
Wim Kerkhoff
   
  
  
 






Re: perl5.6 (was: Shared variables, inner subs and our)

2001-03-19 Thread Bogomolnyi Constantin

Hi ,
Unicode is a way of pain . don't go this way .
specialy in 5.7.0 were it is broken .
5.6.0 is  well you know what .
There is many other systems to hold multilingual apps , that not require any
unicode .

I use 5.7.0 in production (i386 , BSD 4.2) and it runs perfectly . Except
unicode
support. 5.6.0 has a lot of bugs (witch were fixed in 5.7.0)

Best
Cb

- Original Message -
From: "Jauder Ho" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Bogomolnyi Constantin" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 8:44 AM
Subject: Re: perl5.6 (was: Shared variables, inner subs and "our")



 Hello there, could you detail a little more about your Unicode experience
 with perl? I am currently evaluating what the best verion of perl to use
 for a multilingual application. Thanks.

 --Jauder

 On Fri, 16 Mar 2001, Bogomolnyi Constantin wrote:

  Hi ,
 
  You should probably try 5.7.0 witch is much more stable than 5.6.0 (you
  should not try unicode stuff , whitch is quite buggy)
 
  I use 5.7.0  on all my production servers without any problems .
 
  Best
  - Original Message -
  From: "Wim Kerkhoff" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: "modperl" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 6:20 AM
  Subject: Re: perl5.6 (was: Shared variables, inner subs and "our")
 
 
   Stas Bekman wrote:
  
our() and other perl5.6 new APIs are too early to be endorsed, as
5.6 is
not yet considered as a stable version for mod_perl production
sites,
therefore the guide barely touches on it.
  
   Would you recommend the use of perl5.6 with mod_perl?  What you are
   saying is making me queasy.
  
   I'm asking because I've been having bad luck with Apache::Session and
   some other modules in some mod_perl aware applications. Things aren't
   comming out the data source properly, things are hanging, things
aren't
   locking/unlocking properly, etc. It could well be that the
applications
   I'm working with aren't using Sessions, Tie::Cache, etc properly. I
may
   downgrade to perl5.005 and give that a whirl...
  
   --
  
   Regards,
  
   Wim Kerkhoff
  
 
 





Re: perl5.6 (was: Shared variables, inner subs and our)

2001-03-17 Thread Bogomolnyi Constantin

Hi ,

You should probably try 5.7.0 witch is much more stable than 5.6.0 (you
should not try unicode stuff , whitch is quite buggy)

I use 5.7.0  on all my production servers without any problems .

Best
- Original Message -
From: "Wim Kerkhoff" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "modperl" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 6:20 AM
Subject: Re: perl5.6 (was: Shared variables, inner subs and "our")


 Stas Bekman wrote:

  our() and other perl5.6 new APIs are too early to be endorsed, as 5.6 is
  not yet considered as a stable version for mod_perl production sites,
  therefore the guide barely touches on it.

 Would you recommend the use of perl5.6 with mod_perl?  What you are
 saying is making me queasy.

 I'm asking because I've been having bad luck with Apache::Session and
 some other modules in some mod_perl aware applications. Things aren't
 comming out the data source properly, things are hanging, things aren't
 locking/unlocking properly, etc. It could well be that the applications
 I'm working with aren't using Sessions, Tie::Cache, etc properly. I may
 downgrade to perl5.005 and give that a whirl...

 --

 Regards,

 Wim Kerkhoff





Re: perl5.6 (was: Shared variables, inner subs and our)

2001-03-17 Thread Dave Rolsky

On Fri, 16 Mar 2001, Bogomolnyi Constantin wrote:

 You should probably try 5.7.0 witch is much more stable than 5.6.0 (you
 should not try unicode stuff , whitch is quite buggy)

 I use 5.7.0  on all my production servers without any problems .

5.7.0 may have fixed some of the bugs of 5.6.0 but it is a dev release
(anything where the subversion is odd is a dev release).  I don't think
anyone working on the Perl core would recommend the use of a dev release
in production unless you absolutely need a piece of functionality present
in that particular dev release.

I'd suggest using 5.00503 until 5.6.1 comes out, which should fix lots of
bugs.


-dave

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We await the New Sun
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Re: perl5.6 (was: Shared variables, inner subs and our)

2001-03-16 Thread Wim Kerkhoff

Stas Bekman wrote:

 our() and other perl5.6 new APIs are too early to be endorsed, as 5.6 is
 not yet considered as a stable version for mod_perl production sites,
 therefore the guide barely touches on it.

Would you recommend the use of perl5.6 with mod_perl?  What you are
saying is making me queasy.

I'm asking because I've been having bad luck with Apache::Session and
some other modules in some mod_perl aware applications. Things aren't
comming out the data source properly, things are hanging, things aren't
locking/unlocking properly, etc. It could well be that the applications
I'm working with aren't using Sessions, Tie::Cache, etc properly. I may
downgrade to perl5.005 and give that a whirl...

-- 

Regards,

Wim Kerkhoff



Re: perl5.6 (was: Shared variables, inner subs and our)

2001-03-16 Thread Stas Bekman

On Fri, 16 Mar 2001, Wim Kerkhoff wrote:

 Stas Bekman wrote:

  our() and other perl5.6 new APIs are too early to be endorsed, as 5.6 is
  not yet considered as a stable version for mod_perl production sites,
  therefore the guide barely touches on it.

 Would you recommend the use of perl5.6 with mod_perl?  What you are
 saying is making me queasy.

 I'm asking because I've been having bad luck with Apache::Session and
 some other modules in some mod_perl aware applications. Things aren't
 comming out the data source properly, things are hanging, things aren't
 locking/unlocking properly, etc. It could well be that the applications
 I'm working with aren't using Sessions, Tie::Cache, etc properly. I may
 downgrade to perl5.005 and give that a whirl...

Please search the archives. There were reports of problems with perl5.6,
Doug has submitted quite a few fixes for 5.6 to make it working with
mod_perl. I'm not sure whether perl5.6-PATCH2 is bugless with regard to
mod_perl. Not to mention possible problems that has nothing to do with
mod_perl, but are general Perl issues.

Therefore I still use 5.00503 on my production sites. But some people are
using 5.6 without any problems on their production sites.

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