Re: With the Macrame macro system, Perl may now be a Lisp.

2007-12-06 Thread Bill Ward 
Cute experiment, but I REALLY hope nobody tries releasing useful
modules to CPAN that depend on this...

On Nov 29, 2007 9:51 PM, David Nicol [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Macrame 0.08 finally passes a variety of tests and has been uploaded.

 Please harangue it via rt.cpan.org.

Re: With the Macrame macro system, Perl may now be a Lisp.

2007-12-06 Thread David Nicol 
On Dec 6, 2007 6:23 PM, Bill Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Cute experiment, but I REALLY hope nobody tries releasing useful
 modules to CPAN that depend on this...

Thank you

After it has line number support it will be more practically useful.

I'm sort of stuck on how much records of line numbers of expanded rewrites to
keep and how to encode them into the filename portion of the #line comment.

imagine:

#line 1000 fileF.pl
use Macrame; # line comments apply to the next line; this is line 1000
macro cheddar {cheese}
warn cheddar;
macro warn_wisconsin { warn cheddar}
warn_wisconsin;
__END__

the easiest thing is to keep line number information that
is available during lexing and output the line number
whenever it changes in the stringification:
#line 1002 fileF.pl
warn cheese;
#line 1003
warn cheese;
__END__

next tricky is to have an macros inherit their line numbers
from wherever they are invoked, giving
#line 1002 fileF.pl
warn cheese;
#line 1004
warn cheese;
__END__
even if the warn_wisconsin macro is several lines long

is it worth the trouble to have warnings inside macros show
a full expansion history as a debugging aid?  That's the current
goal for the next release, with a history syntax of appending
something to the filename portion of the eventual comment:

#line 1002 fileF.pl
warn cheese;
#line 1004 fileF.pl:1003
warn cheese;
__END__

when macros start appearing in different files from where
they are expanded, the debugging comments will start
looking something like

#line 765 applicaiton.pl:maclib.pm:8970:234:basic_macros.pm:22



-- 
Common sense has prevailed

[Request] File::Wordlist

2007-12-06 Thread Chris Dolan 

Dear really-really-lazyweb,

Would someone please create a CPAN module that finds a wordlist on  
the local computer in a cross-platform friendly manner, a la  
File::HomeDir?  For typical unix systems, that would be:


  sub find_wordlist {
  return '/usr/share/dict/words';
  }

But it could be smarter and look for, say, /usr/share/dict/scrabble- 
english first.  For Windows, maybe it would look for MS Office or  
OpenOffice files first.


For extra points, it could even parse those files if their not just  
word + newline.  For double extra points, it could download  
additional dictionaries from the web (ispell, etc).


TIA,
Chris  ;-)

References:
  http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.fwp/2007/12/msg4038.html
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Words_(Unix)
  http://packages.debian.org/sarge/all/scrabble/filelist
  http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/virtual/wordlist
  http://fmg-www.cs.ucla.edu/geoff/ispell-dictionaries.html
  http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/3201

Paths:
  /usr/dict/words
  /usr/share/dict/*
  /Applications/Firefox.app/Contents/MacOS/dictionaries/en-US.dic
  /Library/Dictionaries/New\ Oxford\ American\ Dictionary.dict/ 
Contents/dict_body

  /sw/share/aspell/*