Re: Begging for money - too tacky?
* Gabor Szabo [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-07-15T05:18:47] On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 8:15 AM, Dave Rolsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A friend recently reminded me of the RRDB author's vast list of donations he's received for his work, and I was thinking howzabout me? might be a good idea. Make it easy to actually donate money. Refering to Payal might work but maybe you need to explicitly add your e-mail address there too. Or include a link to a page like http://rjbs.manxome.org/talks/ where people can click a button to get a ready-to-donate form. Go ahead and try that one. See how easy it is to donate! -- rjbs
Re: Begging for money - too tacky?
From: Jason Purdy [EMAIL PROTECTED] This might be a cool thing to add to CPAN in the form of a Tip Jar. People/Companies could donate money through there and CPAN could also keep track of donations as a form of popularity. Authors could also tithe or mark some percentage to donate to the Perl Foundation. I had looked at doing this a few months ago as a Perl Grant, but the hang up is the payment technology. Some of the bigger players (Amazon, PayPal, Google Checkout) restrict who can sign up to receive money, nationality-wise. Since the CPAN authorhood is a diverse group, we couldn't get complete coverage. - Jason This sounds like a lovely idea. And those that do not want the donations could redirect them to PF completely while still getting the popularity tracking. Looks like the list of countries is pretty long on PayPal, though I'm not sure people from all those countries are allowed forward the money to their bank accounts. But even if they can't do that they I believe can accumulate that money in the PayPal account and use them on the internet. Or send them to the author of a different module ;-) So it should not be a big problem. On Tue, 15 Jul 2008, David Cantrell wrote: IIRC Amazon have a donation thing. If you have an Amazon wishlist, point people at that too. About half the donations I get for CPANdeps are in the form of books and DVDs. Why do you think I want others to know what do I want from Amazon? ;- ) Jenda = [EMAIL PROTECTED] === http://Jenda.Krynicky.cz = When it comes to wine, women and song, wizards are allowed to get drunk and croon as much as they like. -- Terry Pratchett in Sourcery
Re: Begging for money - too tacky?
Seems like a reasonable idea. I might just suggest a small change in the phrasing. Something along the lines of I do this out of interest and spare time. However, my time is limited since I have a job (/jobs?) and thus, donating will help me spare more time to work on this. If you use this and find it useful and would like to donate to help me develop it and/or would like to show appreciation - you're more than welcome to donate. Those short and to the point sentences always seem to get me. Good luck, anyway! On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 8:15 AM, Dave Rolsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A friend recently reminded me of the RRDB author's vast list of donations he's received for his work, and I was thinking howzabout me? I was wondering if anyone had ever put anything in their module POD asking for donations, and if it worked. I wrote something up I was thinking of adding to mine, and I was wondering if people thought this was too tacky.. Here's what I wrote ... =head1 DONATIONS If you'd like to thank me for the work I've done on this module, please consider making a donation to me via PayPal (send in thanks. I spend a lot of free time creating free software, and would appreciate any support you'd care to offer. Please note that I am Bnot suggesting that you Bmust do this in order for to continue working on this module. I will continue to do so, inasmuch as I have in the past, for as long as it interests me. Similarly, a donation made in this way will probably not make me work on this module much more, unless I get so many donations that I can consider working on free software full time, which seems unlikely at best. /*== VegGuide.Org Your guide to all that's veg ==*/
Re: Begging for money - too tacky?
On Tue, 15 Jul 2008, Sawyer X wrote: Seems like a reasonable idea. I might just suggest a small change in the phrasing. Something along the lines of I do this out of interest and spare time. However, my time is limited since I have a job (/jobs?) and thus, donating will help me spare more time to work on this. If you use this and find it useful and would like to donate to help me develop it and/or would like to show appreciation - you're more than welcome to donate. Well, that just wouldn't be true. Unless people were to donate so much money that I could afford to quit my job, or do part-time consulting, a donation _won't_ increase the time I have available for working on this stuff. I said that explicitly in the text I wrote. -dave /*== VegGuide.Org Your guide to all that's veg ==*/
Re: Begging for money - too tacky?
Well, I consider some other stuff - which may be true for other people I know which don't relate to you - like taking small jobs in between, etc. If you figure it does not relate to you, you're right to not include it. On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 11:22 AM, Dave Rolsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 15 Jul 2008, Sawyer X wrote: Seems like a reasonable idea. I might just suggest a small change in the phrasing. Something along the lines of I do this out of interest and spare time. However, my time is limited since I have a job (/jobs?) and thus, donating will help me spare more time to work on this. If you use this and find it useful and would like to donate to help me develop it and/or would like to show appreciation - you're more than welcome to donate. Well, that just wouldn't be true. Unless people were to donate so much money that I could afford to quit my job, or do part-time consulting, a donation _won't_ increase the time I have available for working on this stuff. I said that explicitly in the text I wrote. -dave /*== VegGuide.Org Your guide to all that's veg ==*/
Re: Begging for money - too tacky?
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 8:15 AM, Dave Rolsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A friend recently reminded me of the RRDB author's vast list of donations he's received for his work, and I was thinking howzabout me? might be a good idea. Make it easy to actually donate money. Refering to Payal might work but maybe you need to explicitly add your e-mail address there too. AFIK there are some other systems specific for donations. Maybe you should sign up with one of them and let people donate that way too. Do let us know how it works out :-) regards Gabor
Re: Begging for money - too tacky?
On Tue, 15 Jul 2008, Gabor Szabo wrote: On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 8:15 AM, Dave Rolsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A friend recently reminded me of the RRDB author's vast list of donations he's received for his work, and I was thinking howzabout me? might be a good idea. Make it easy to actually donate money. Refering to Payal might work but maybe you need to explicitly add your e-mail address there too. Yeah, I had to log into PayPal to check what email address I'd used there. AFIK there are some other systems specific for donations. Maybe you should sign up with one of them and let people donate that way too. Sourceforge offers this, but it's just a front end on PayPal anyway. I don't know of any other viable alternatives. -dave /*== VegGuide.Org Your guide to all that's veg ==*/
Re: Begging for money - too tacky?
On Tue, 15 Jul 2008, David Cantrell wrote: IIRC Amazon have a donation thing. If you have an Amazon wishlist, point people at that too. About half the donations I get for CPANdeps are in the form of books and DVDs. In my case, I mostly don't want stuff, so I'd really prefer people to send cash or nothing. For the stuff I do want, I generally either buy local, used, or both, so cash works well for that ;) -dave /*== VegGuide.Org Your guide to all that's veg ==*/
Re: Begging for money - too tacky?
This might be a cool thing to add to CPAN in the form of a Tip Jar. People/Companies could donate money through there and CPAN could also keep track of donations as a form of popularity. Authors could also tithe or mark some percentage to donate to the Perl Foundation. I had looked at doing this a few months ago as a Perl Grant, but the hang up is the payment technology. Some of the bigger players (Amazon, PayPal, Google Checkout) restrict who can sign up to receive money, nationality-wise. Since the CPAN authorhood is a diverse group, we couldn't get complete coverage. - Jason Dave Rolsky wrote: On Tue, 15 Jul 2008, David Cantrell wrote: IIRC Amazon have a donation thing. If you have an Amazon wishlist, point people at that too. About half the donations I get for CPANdeps are in the form of books and DVDs. In my case, I mostly don't want stuff, so I'd really prefer people to send cash or nothing. For the stuff I do want, I generally either buy local, used, or both, so cash works well for that ;) -dave /*== VegGuide.Org Your guide to all that's veg ==*/
Begging for money - too tacky?
A friend recently reminded me of the RRDB author's vast list of donations he's received for his work, and I was thinking howzabout me? I was wondering if anyone had ever put anything in their module POD asking for donations, and if it worked. I wrote something up I was thinking of adding to mine, and I was wondering if people thought this was too tacky.. Here's what I wrote ... =head1 DONATIONS If you'd like to thank me for the work I've done on this module, please consider making a donation to me via PayPal (send in thanks. I spend a lot of free time creating free software, and would appreciate any support you'd care to offer. Please note that I am Bnot suggesting that you Bmust do this in order for to continue working on this module. I will continue to do so, inasmuch as I have in the past, for as long as it interests me. Similarly, a donation made in this way will probably not make me work on this module much more, unless I get so many donations that I can consider working on free software full time, which seems unlikely at best. /*== VegGuide.Org Your guide to all that's veg ==*/
