Re: In which linux distribution is my module available

2007-05-08 Thread Lars Thegler

Adam Kennedy wrote:

FreeBSD is auto-packaging everything that passes tests.


Not entirely true. FreeBSD ports are added and maintained by hand, by a 
group of volunteers.


/Lars


Re: In which linux distribution is my module available

2007-05-07 Thread Adam Kennedy
Looking at mine (ADAMK) which has a relatively large sample of modules 
to intuit patterns from, I'd say that that Debian modules are created 
and updated by hand, and there's a relatively large number of volunteers.


But the module versions do slip, and my less popular modules are not 
packaged.


FreeBSD is auto-packaging everything that passes tests. So ALL my 
modules are available, almost universally at the current version, except 
for one that needs a compiler.


As for the rest, well, some are still using incredibly old versions of 
things.


Adam K

Xavier Noria wrote:

On May 4, 2007, at 10:26 AM, Gabor Szabo wrote:


A few days ago I created a report listing the availability of every
CPAN module as package in various Linux distributions.

A bit more work on it and now there is a report for each module author
as well. http://www.szabgab.com/distributions/


Thank you!

How do you people interpret the difference between FreeBSD and the rest?

-- fxn





Re: In which linux distribution is my module available

2007-05-06 Thread Gabor Szabo

On 5/4/07, Johan Vromans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Gabor Szabo [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 A bit more work on it and now there is a report for each module author
 as well. http://www.szabgab.com/distributions/

Interesting numbers, but I have some problems interpreting the report.

First, what do you mean by CPAN Modules in Distributions. Modules
that are installed with a vanilla install? Modules that can be
installed on demand?


I am not sure.

In the longer term I would like to provide the list of modules that
can be installed by the standard packaging tool of each distribution
on demand.
As I am a bit more familiar with Ubuntu (and thus Debian) I plan to
provide the list of modules that can be installed with apt-get using the
standard *supported* repositories showing which module is coming from
which repository.
So in Ubuntu that probably only means main while universe and backports
will be also shown separately.

Some more explanation why:
http://www.szabgab.com/blog/2007/04/1177742133.html
http://www.szabgab.com/blog/2007/05/1178269908.html


For example, according to the report, Getopt::Long is only available
in FreeBSD but I'm pretty sure it is installed in all other distros as
well.


In addition, after I generated and announced the initial report I stated to look
into how the data is fetched (which is done by
Module::Packaged::Generate from Leon) and found out that the data
collector of Mandriva is dead and Fedora actually means FC2.

So since then I patched the module a bit and started to add more data sources.
Specifically Debian was split into stable/unstable/testing, Ubuntu was added
though it is very strange that there are only 75 modules in the latest
version of
Ubuntu and ActivePerl was also added with ~ 7000 modules!

Still I would appreciate your help in both finding the sources and
interpreting the
meaning of the results. Particularly explaining how the various
packaging systems
and distributions work. Link to SVN on the report page itself:
http://www.szabgab.com/distributions/


Puzzling...


The Puzzle has more pieces in place now.
I hope.

Gabor

--
Gabor Szabo
http://www.szabgab.com/
Perl Training in Israel  http://www.pti.co.il/


Re: In which linux distribution is my module available

2007-05-06 Thread Sébastien Aperghis-Tramoni

Gabor Szabo wrote:


On 5/4/07, Johan Vromans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

For example, according to the report, Getopt::Long is only available
in FreeBSD but I'm pretty sure it is installed in all other  
distros as

well.


In addition, after I generated and announced the initial report I  
stated to look

into how the data is fetched (which is done by
Module::Packaged::Generate from Leon) and found out that the data
collector of Mandriva is dead and Fedora actually means FC2.


I guess that Getopt::Long, as well as other dual-life modules, are  
very often not packaged by editors because they have to specifically  
remove it from the main Perl package. And even though several modules  
from 5.8 have been dual-lifed and have more recent versions on the  
CPAN, they prefer to keep the versions included with the Perl  
distribution.


--
Sébastien Aperghis-Tramoni

Close the world, txEn eht nepO.




In which linux distribution is my module available

2007-05-04 Thread Gabor Szabo

Hi,

A few days ago I created a report listing the availability of every
CPAN module as package in various Linux distributions.

A bit more work on it and now there is a report for each module author
as well. http://www.szabgab.com/distributions/

Gabor
http://www.pti.co.il/


Re: In which linux distribution is my module available

2007-05-04 Thread Xavier Noria

On May 4, 2007, at 10:26 AM, Gabor Szabo wrote:


A few days ago I created a report listing the availability of every
CPAN module as package in various Linux distributions.

A bit more work on it and now there is a report for each module author
as well. http://www.szabgab.com/distributions/


Thank you!

How do you people interpret the difference between FreeBSD and the rest?

-- fxn





Re: In which linux distribution is my module available

2007-05-04 Thread Eric Wilhelm
# from Gabor Szabo
# on Friday 04 May 2007 01:26 am:

A bit more work on it and now there is a report for each module author
as well. http://www.szabgab.com/distributions/

Neat, one of my modules is in debian.

Oh no, one of my modules is in debian!

Thanks Gabor, that is awesome.

--Eric
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Re: In which linux distribution is my module available

2007-05-04 Thread Ricardo SIGNES
* Xavier Noria [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-05-04T04:38:14]
 On May 4, 2007, at 10:26 AM, Gabor Szabo wrote:
 
 A few days ago I created a report listing the availability of every
 CPAN module as package in various Linux distributions.
 
 A bit more work on it and now there is a report for each module author
 as well. http://www.szabgab.com/distributions/
 
 Thank you!
 
 How do you people interpret the difference between FreeBSD and the rest?

When I saw this report, I posted an angry version of your question to my
journal, and got a well-tempered response from tagg:

  http://use.perl.org/~rjbs/journal/33170

-- 
rjbs