Re: Maintenance of IO::Socket::INET6-http://search.cpan.org/dist/IO-Socket-INET6/
On Tuesday 05 February 2008, Shlomi Fish wrote: Hi Rafael! (and everybody) Let me know if you can operate ... Sure thing. I'll try to upload a new version of IO::Socket::INET6 soon, and let you know how it goes. OK, I uploaded IO-Socket-INET6-2.52, and it was indexed by CPAN and search.cpan.org: http://search.cpan.org/search?mode=allquery=io%3A%3Asocket%3A%3Ainet6 I already received two test failure reports from Solaris, on a system where IPv6 seems to be disabled. Thanks again. Regards, Shlomi Fish - Shlomi Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage:http://www.shlomifish.org/ I'm not an actor - I just play one on T.V.
Re: Maintenance of IO::Socket::INET6-http://search.cpan.org/dist/IO-Socket-INET6/
Hi Rafael! (and everybody) On Feb 5, 2008 2:14 AM, Rafael Martinez Torres [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No need for apology. You are a volunteer just as the rest of us. Now it will be harvested by the spam-bots and you will get tons of spam to this address too :-) Me naive ! I believed this was a private list ! Fortunately, this corporate mail-server is ready with bayessian filters to detect SPAM ! . You can just login to PAUSE and set SHLOMIF as a co-maintainer of all the modules in the package. Then he can upload to CPAN and be index. Done. The second time I was prompted the message : SHLOMIF was already a co-maintainer of IO::Socket::INET6: skipping Thanks for making me co-maintainer, as I requested. Let me know if you can operate ... Sure thing. I'll try to upload a new version of IO::Socket::INET6 soon, and let you know how it goes. Thanks again, as IO::Socket::INET6 could use some care. Let me know if you'd like a commit access to its Berlios.de repository. Regards, Shlomi Fish -- Shlomi Fish http://www.shlomifish.org/ Electrical Engineering studies. In the Technion. Been there. Done that. Forgot a lot. Remember too much.
Re: Maintenance of IO::Socket::INET6 - http://search.cpan.org/dist/IO-Socket-INET6/
On Sat, 2 Feb 2008, Nicholas Clark wrote about Re: Maintenance of...: On Fri, Feb 01, 2008 at 08:18:21PM +0200, Shlomi Fish wrote: Due to the fact I did not hear from the original author for 2 weeks, I'd like to ask the CPAN admins to give me (SHLOMIF on the CPAN) a co-maintainer status so I can upload my modifications (and future ones) as a new distribution. Some people go on holiday for more than 2 weeks. Nicholas Clark I'll speak up here (CSJEWELL @cpan) and say that there are worse things than just going on holiday that'll cause people to go away temporarily - I've been in hospital for almost a month's time (27 and 29 days, as I recall) twice in the last two years (the second time was for a surgery that should deal with the problem for a few years)... I'm not anywhere near in authority, but if there is no rush, 4-6 weeks would probably be polite, I think! --Curtis -- Curtis Jewell (Perl-programming e-mail) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://curtis.livejournal.com/ Your random numbers are not that random --perl5.8.8/util.c [I use PC-Alpine, which deliberately does not display colors and pictures in HTML mail]
Re: Maintenance of IO::Socket::INET6 -http://search.cpan.org/dist/IO-Socket-INET6/
On Feb 5, 2008 12:55 AM, Rafael Martinez Torres [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First at all, I want to apologize. I'm the original maintainer of IO::SOcket::INET6, but three years ago I'm not in charge of that. No need for apology. You are a volunteer just as the rest of us. The [EMAIL PROTECTED] is barely attended, because if has tons of SPAM, and the mail server does not detect it. Write me back into [EMAIL PROTECTED] in case of trouble. Now it will be harvested by the spam-bots and you will get tons of spam to this address too :-) Shlomi, please... As Gabor said, I'm afraid I can no longer to maitain this module, at least on medium term. So, tell me what can I do to delegate this module maintenance to you. As a transient solution, just reply me with a private mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and I will tell you the paswords and the CPAN author: MONDEJAR . Then, we can try to pass you the module's main maintenance. I don't know if CPAN can enable a module to be maintained by several authors, as sourceforge does. If not, module will pass to you. I don't think giving out passwords is a good idea. You can just login to PAUSE and set SHLOMIF as a co-maintainer of all the modules in the package. Then he can upload to CPAN and be index. regards Gabor
Re: Maintenance of IO::Socket::INET6 -http://search.cpan.org/dist/IO-Socket-INET6/
Send another nice(!) letter to the author making it clear that you will be happy if he continued the maintenance of the module or if he passed it to you. Then wait for another few weeks before asking the CPAN maintainers again. Thanks, Gabor. First at all, I want to apologize. I'm the original maintainer of IO::SOcket::INET6, but three years ago I'm not in charge of that. The [EMAIL PROTECTED] is barely attended, because if has tons of SPAM, and the mail server does not detect it. Write me back into [EMAIL PROTECTED] in case of trouble. Shlomi, please... As Gabor said, I'm afraid I can no longer to maitain this module, at least on medium term. So, tell me what can I do to delegate this module maintenance to you. As a transient solution, just reply me with a private mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and I will tell you the paswords and the CPAN author: MONDEJAR . Then, we can try to pass you the module's main maintenance. I don't know if CPAN can enable a module to be maintained by several authors, as sourceforge does. If not, module will pass to you. Again, I apologize. In the meantime both you and the users can already use your not official and development versions of the module. Gabor
Re: Maintenance of IO::Socket::INET6-http://search.cpan.org/dist/IO-Socket-INET6/
No need for apology. You are a volunteer just as the rest of us. Now it will be harvested by the spam-bots and you will get tons of spam to this address too :-) Me naive ! I believed this was a private list ! Fortunately, this corporate mail-server is ready with bayessian filters to detect SPAM ! . You can just login to PAUSE and set SHLOMIF as a co-maintainer of all the modules in the package. Then he can upload to CPAN and be index. Done. The second time I was prompted the message : SHLOMIF was already a co-maintainer of IO::Socket::INET6: skipping Let me know if you can operate ...
Re: Maintenance of IO::Socket::INET6 - http://search.cpan.org/dist/IO-Socket-INET6/
On Feb 2, 2008 2:14 PM, Nicholas Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Feb 01, 2008 at 08:18:21PM +0200, Shlomi Fish wrote: Due to the fact I did not hear from the original author for 2 weeks, I'd like to ask the CPAN admins to give me (SHLOMIF on the CPAN) a co-maintainer status so I can upload my modifications (and future ones) as a new distribution. Some people go on holiday for more than 2 weeks. And some people go on holiday for more than that. The question is: how long should we wait? There wasn't a new release of IO::Socket::INET6 for over three years, and it has three pending bug reports. This probably indicates that the author is missing-in-action. Regards, Shlomi Fish Nicholas Clark -- -- Shlomi Fish http://www.shlomifish.org/ Electrical Engineering studies. In the Technion. Been there. Done that. Forgot a lot. Remember too much.
Re: Maintenance of IO::Socket::INET6 - http://search.cpan.org/dist/IO-Socket-INET6/
On Feb 3, 2008 12:01 PM, Shlomi Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 2, 2008 2:14 PM, Nicholas Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Feb 01, 2008 at 08:18:21PM +0200, Shlomi Fish wrote: Due to the fact I did not hear from the original author for 2 weeks, I'd like to ask the CPAN admins to give me (SHLOMIF on the CPAN) a co-maintainer status so I can upload my modifications (and future ones) as a new distribution. Some people go on holiday for more than 2 weeks. And some people go on holiday for more than that. The question is: how long should we wait? There wasn't a new release of IO::Socket::INET6 for over three years, and it has three pending bug reports. This probably indicates that the author is missing-in-action. Instead of this infighting why not just upload a development version of the module with something like this in the pod: This is an unnofficial version of module X::Y::Z till the original module author reappears or till I get official maintainership of the the module. Send another nice(!) letter to the author making it clear that you will be happy if he continued the maintenance of the module or if he passed it to you. Then wait for another few weeks before asking the CPAN maintainers again. In the meantime both you and the users can already use your not official and development versions of the module. Gabor
Re: Maintenance of IO::Socket::INET6 - http://search.cpan.org/dist/IO-Socket-INET6/
* On Sun, Feb 03 2008, Gabor Szabo wrote: On Feb 3, 2008 12:01 PM, Shlomi Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And some people go on holiday for more than that. The question is: how long should we wait? There wasn't a new release of IO::Socket::INET6 for over three years, and it has three pending bug reports. This probably indicates that the author is missing-in-action. Instead of this infighting why not just upload a development version of the module with something like this in the pod: This is an unnofficial version of module X::Y::Z till the original module author reappears or till I get official maintainership of the the module. Excellent idea. Another possibility is to release a subclass of the module that has your fixes in it. Then people can use IO::Socket::INET6::Shlomi, and forget about the brokenness in IO::Socket::INET6. When I::S::6 fixes the bug you can re-upload your module as a simple package IO::Socket::INET6::Shlomi; use base IO::Socket::INET6; 1. It's not *ideal*, but we don't live in an ideal world. This is a pretty good solution, though. Regards, Jonathan Rockway
Re: Maintenance of IO::Socket::INET6 - http://search.cpan.org/dist/IO-Socket-INET6/
On Sunday 03 February 2008, Jonathan Rockway wrote: * On Sun, Feb 03 2008, Gabor Szabo wrote: On Feb 3, 2008 12:01 PM, Shlomi Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And some people go on holiday for more than that. The question is: how long should we wait? There wasn't a new release of IO::Socket::INET6 for over three years, and it has three pending bug reports. This probably indicates that the author is missing-in-action. Instead of this infighting why not just upload a development version of the module with something like this in the pod: This is an unnofficial version of module X::Y::Z till the original module author reappears or till I get official maintainership of the the module. Excellent idea. Another possibility is to release a subclass of the module that has your fixes in it. Then people can use IO::Socket::INET6::Shlomi, and forget about the brokenness in IO::Socket::INET6. When I::S::6 fixes the bug you can re-upload your module as a simple package IO::Socket::INET6::Shlomi; use base IO::Socket::INET6; 1. What my out-of-mainline modifications to IO::Socket::INET6 resolve is: 1. Some warnings due to clashes of imported symbols between Socket6 and Socket. These occur when loading IO::Socket::INET6 due to something like: use IO::Socket; use Socket6; 2. Some tests in t/*.t that fail on certain conditions. Neither of these fixes can be done using a separate subclass, because the warnings will still occur when loading IO::Socket::INET6 and the tests will still fail in the original distribution. Regards, Shlomi Fish - Shlomi Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage:http://www.shlomifish.org/ I'm not an actor - I just play one on T.V.
Re: Maintenance of IO::Socket::INET6 - http://search.cpan.org/dist/IO-Socket-INET6/
On Sunday 03 February 2008, Gabor Szabo wrote: On Feb 3, 2008 12:01 PM, Shlomi Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 2, 2008 2:14 PM, Nicholas Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Feb 01, 2008 at 08:18:21PM +0200, Shlomi Fish wrote: Due to the fact I did not hear from the original author for 2 weeks, I'd like to ask the CPAN admins to give me (SHLOMIF on the CPAN) a co-maintainer status so I can upload my modifications (and future ones) as a new distribution. Some people go on holiday for more than 2 weeks. And some people go on holiday for more than that. The question is: how long should we wait? There wasn't a new release of IO::Socket::INET6 for over three years, and it has three pending bug reports. This probably indicates that the author is missing-in-action. Instead of this infighting why not just upload a development version of the module with something like this in the pod: This is an unnofficial version of module X::Y::Z till the original module author reappears or till I get official maintainership of the the module. First of all, the module I have is not a development version. It's as production-ready as the original. Secondly, I don't see the point of uploading my own version, as it won't get properly indexed by search.cpan.org and friends and won't be installed by CPAN.pm/CPANPLUS.pm by default. Consider Pod::DocBook for example: http://search.cpan.org/search?mode=allquery=pod%3A%3Adocbook search.cpan.org still finds the old distribution by Alligator Descartes that wasn't updated since 1999. However, there's a newer version: http://cpan-sj.viaverio.com/authors/id/N/NA/NANDU/ So it would just be a waste of time. Send another nice(!) letter to the author making it clear that you will be happy if he continued the maintenance of the module or if he passed it to you. I already sent him a letter, to which he as well as modules@ and module-authors@ were corresponded. He was also CCed on the rest of the conversation, including this message. If he can and wishes to respond, then I already did the best for him to do so. Then wait for another few weeks before asking the CPAN maintainers again. I could wait, but the question is - how long? Are their pre-defined policies for adopting a module, when it hasn't been maintained in a long time (and requires maintenance) and there is someone who volunteers to maintain it? There's: http://perldoc.perl.org/perlfaq7.html#How-do-I-adopt-or-take-over-a-module-already-on-CPAN%3f The first step is to: Write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] explaining what you did to contact the current maintainer. The PAUSE admins will also try to reach the maintainer. Well, I tried to contact him by sending him an email to an address which was the only one I could find on the web. So I ask the PAUSE admins to also try and reach him. In the meantime both you and the users can already use your not official and development versions of the module. They can already do that by pulling the source from the subversion repository. Regards, Shlomi Fish - Shlomi Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage:http://www.shlomifish.org/ I'm not an actor - I just play one on T.V.
Re: Maintenance of IO::Socket::INET6 - http://search.cpan.org/dist/IO-Socket-INET6/
Hi all! On Jan 18, 2008 4:17 PM, Shlomi Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! I patched IO-Socket-INET6: http://svn.berlios.de/svnroot/repos/web-cpan/IO-Socket-INET6/trunk/ This is because it now generates several warnings and failed tests on Mandriva cooker and on other platforms: * http://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=36889 * http://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=36952 Now I'd like my modifications to be integrated into the CPAN version. However, it's been unmaintained for over three years, and the author hasn't maintained any other modules since its latest release. There are several bugs on rt.cpan.org which were not taken care of. Rafael, if you're still there, please pull my modifications from the Subversion repository and upload them as a new module. I can also give you permissions to commit there once you have registered with http://developer.berlios.de/ . Alternatively, please give me a co-maintainer status for IO-Socket-INET6. Due to the fact I did not hear from the original author for 2 weeks, I'd like to ask the CPAN admins to give me (SHLOMIF on the CPAN) a co-maintainer status so I can upload my modifications (and future ones) as a new distribution. Regards, Shlomi Fish -- Shlomi Fish http://www.shlomifish.org/ Electrical Engineering studies. In the Technion. Been there. Done that. Forgot a lot. Remember too much.
Re: Maintenance of IO::Socket::INET6 - http://search.cpan.org/dist/IO-Socket-INET6/
On Fri, Feb 01, 2008 at 08:18:21PM +0200, Shlomi Fish wrote: Due to the fact I did not hear from the original author for 2 weeks, I'd like to ask the CPAN admins to give me (SHLOMIF on the CPAN) a co-maintainer status so I can upload my modifications (and future ones) as a new distribution. Some people go on holiday for more than 2 weeks. Nicholas Clark
Re: Maintenance of IO::Socket::INET6 - http://search.cpan.org/dist/IO-Socket-INET6/
On Saturday 19 January 2008, brian d foy wrote: [[ This message was both posted and mailed: see the To, Cc, and Newsgroups headers for details. ]] In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Shlomi Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! I patched IO-Socket-INET6: In the AUTHOR section of the documentation, it says: This program is based on IO::Socket::INET by Graham Barr [EMAIL PROTECTED] and currently maintained by the Perl Porters. So, you should send your patches to p5p. IO::Socket::INET is now a core module, but IO::Socket::INET6 (note the 6) which was forked from it, is not. The changes I've made to the core ::INET6 code are not relevant to I-S-INET. Perhaps p5p would be interested in back-ported changes to the test, but this is another issue altogether. Also, if you expect anyone in particular to get your email, you should send it to them too. I didn't see that you copied Rafael Martinez Torres on this message. Actually, I did. [EMAIL PROTECTED] was on the CC address to my original message and this one (but not on yours from some reason). Good luck, Thanks. Regards, Shlomi Fish - Shlomi Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage:http://www.shlomifish.org/ I'm not an actor - I just play one on T.V.
Re: Maintenance of IO::Socket::INET6 - http://search.cpan.org/dist/IO-Socket-INET6/
[[ This message was both posted and mailed: see the To, Cc, and Newsgroups headers for details. ]] In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Shlomi Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! I patched IO-Socket-INET6: In the AUTHOR section of the documentation, it says: This program is based on IO::Socket::INET by Graham Barr [EMAIL PROTECTED] and currently maintained by the Perl Porters. So, you should send your patches to p5p. Also, if you expect anyone in particular to get your email, you should send it to them too. I didn't see that you copied Rafael Martinez Torres on this message. Good luck, -- brian d foy (one of many PAUSE admins), http://pause.perl.org archives at http://www.xray.mpe.mpg.de/mailing-lists/modules please send all messages back to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Maintenance of IO::Socket::INET6 - http://search.cpan.org/dist/IO-Socket-INET6/
Hi! I patched IO-Socket-INET6: http://svn.berlios.de/svnroot/repos/web-cpan/IO-Socket-INET6/trunk/ This is because it now generates several warnings and failed tests on Mandriva cooker and on other platforms: * http://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=36889 * http://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=36952 Now I'd like my modifications to be integrated into the CPAN version. However, it's been unmaintained for over three years, and the author hasn't maintained any other modules since its latest release. There are several bugs on rt.cpan.org which were not taken care of. Rafael, if you're still there, please pull my modifications from the Subversion repository and upload them as a new module. I can also give you permissions to commit there once you have registered with http://developer.berlios.de/ . Alternatively, please give me a co-maintainer status for IO-Socket-INET6. Regards, Shlomi Fish -- Shlomi Fish http://www.shlomifish.org/ Electrical Engineering studies. In the Technion. Been there. Done that. Forgot a lot. Remember too much.
