Re: Please Give me Comaint on https://metacpan.org/release/gettext

[Matt S Trout]

On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 02:10:42PM -0400, Kim Vandry wrote:
> You are welcome to comaintain this module or even take it over. How
> do I set that up?

Added SHLOMIF to co-maintainers of Locale::gettext.

Added SHLOMIF to co-maintainers of gettext.

He can now upload releases to CPAN; I'm guessing the details of the
repostiory you can work out between you :)
 
> I see. I'm sure writing "same as Perl" for the license must have
> been recommended by somebody at some time or else I probably would
> not have done it. Obviously it was a long time ago. I am no legal or
> licensing expert. I have no idea what license would be best.

'same license as perl itself' is fine. The problem is that you've then
expanded that to 'GPL or AL' explicitly, which could be read to mean
'only Artistic License original, not the much better version 2'.

Assuming your intention was to do the sensible/normal thing, I'd say
clarifying the existing license is fine.

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Re: Please Give me Comaint on https://metacpan.org/release/gettext

[Shlomi Fish]

On Sat, 19 Sep 2015 20:01:36 +
Matt S Trout  wrote:

> On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 02:10:42PM -0400, Kim Vandry wrote:
> > You are welcome to comaintain this module or even take it over. How
> > do I set that up?
> 
> Added SHLOMIF to co-maintainers of Locale::gettext.
> 
> Added SHLOMIF to co-maintainers of gettext.
> 
> He can now upload releases to CPAN; I'm guessing the details of the
> repostiory you can work out between you :)

Thanks!

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Shlomi Fish

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Please Give me Comaint on https://metacpan.org/release/gettext

[Shlomi Fish]

Hi Kim!

I'd like to comaintain this CPAN distribution of yours -
https://metacpan.org/release/gettext , which has been suffering from
accumulating test failures and bug reports, and other bitrot , and did not have
a release since 2005.

My CPAN username is "SHLOMIF" and you can find my active MetaCPAN page here:

* https://metacpan.org/author/SHLOMIF 

While I'm in the neighbourhood, I'd like to ask whether you'll agree to change
the licence of "gettext" to a better one such as the Artistic 2.0 licence or to
the MIT/X11 licence. See:

http://www.shlomifish.org/philosophy/computers/open-source/foss-licences-wars/#which-licence-same-as-perl

If I don't receive a reply in a few weeks, I'd like to ask the CPAN admins to
give me a COMAINT bit for it.

Regards,

Shlomi Fish

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Re: Please Give me Comaint on https://metacpan.org/release/gettext

[Kim Vandry]

On 2015-09-18 05:14, Shlomi Fish wrote:

Hi Kim!

I'd like to comaintain this CPAN distribution of yours -
https://metacpan.org/release/gettext , which has been suffering from
accumulating test failures and bug reports, and other bitrot , and did not have
a release since 2005.


Hi Shlomi,

Thank you for contacting me.

I apologize for the extremely long period of neglect. Actually I don't 
use Perl anymore and have not looked at this module in years. Moreover, 
the RT ticket queue for thsi module appears to be owned by someone else, 
so I did not get any notification when issues began accumulating.


For starters, I have created a public git repo for this module, and 
back-imported all of the past versions:


https://github.com/vandry/Perl-Locale-gettext

Next, I knocked off a few of the easy bugs and created a new release:

http://www.cpan.org/authors/id/P/PV/PVANDRY/gettext-1.06.tar.gz

Some of the remaining bug reports are also straightforward but will 
require a little bit more time than I have today or over the upcoming 
weekend to conscientiously fix. Others are things like build problems 
under operating systems I don't have and can't test for, or else 
possibly unreproducible or obsolete. In all honesty, again since I don't 
really code in Perl anymore, I'm not likely to work on those.


You are welcome to comaintain this module or even take it over. How do I 
set that up?



While I'm in the neighbourhood, I'd like to ask whether you'll agree to change
the licence of "gettext" to a better one such as the Artistic 2.0 licence or to
the MIT/X11 licence. See:

http://www.shlomifish.org/philosophy/computers/open-source/foss-licences-wars/#which-licence-same-as-perl


I see. I'm sure writing "same as Perl" for the license must have been 
recommended by somebody at some time or else I probably would not have 
done it. Obviously it was a long time ago. I am no legal or licensing 
expert. I have no idea what license would be best.


Regards,

Kim Vandry
-kv

Re: Please Give me Comaint on https://metacpan.org/release/gettext

[Shawn H Corey]

On Fri, 18 Sep 2015 12:14:23 +0300
Shlomi Fish  wrote:

> While I'm in the neighbourhood, I'd like to ask whether you'll agree
> to change the licence of "gettext" to a better one such as the
> Artistic 2.0 licence or to the MIT/X11 licence. See:


Isn't gettext part of GNU? https://www.gnu.org/software/gettext/

It may be difficult to change its license.


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Shawn

Re: Please Give me Comaint on https://metacpan.org/release/gettext

[Shlomi Fish]

Hi Shawn,

On Fri, 18 Sep 2015 07:41:57 -0400
Shawn H Corey  wrote:

> On Fri, 18 Sep 2015 12:14:23 +0300
> Shlomi Fish  wrote:
> 
> > While I'm in the neighbourhood, I'd like to ask whether you'll agree
> > to change the licence of "gettext" to a better one such as the
> > Artistic 2.0 licence or to the MIT/X11 licence. See:
> 
> 
> Isn't gettext part of GNU? https://www.gnu.org/software/gettext/
> 
> It may be difficult to change its license.

Sorry for being unclear, but I did not mean "GNU gettext", but rather the
"gettext" CPAN distribution - https://metacpan.org/release/gettext . According
to the README of the latter (see
https://metacpan.org/source/PVANDRY/gettext-1.05/README ):

«
Locale::gettext is Copyright 1996..2005 by Phillip Vandry
. All rights reserved.

This library is free software; you may distribute under the terms
of either the GNU General Public License or the Artistic License, as
specified in the Perl README file.
»

Regards,

Shlomi Fish

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