Re: [Moin-user] Image problems
Chris G wrote:
On Mon, Feb 08, 2010 at 07:15:55PM -0600, Rick Vanderveer wrote:
On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 4:49 PM, Chris G [1...@isbd.net wrote:
OK, thanks, but I'd really like to be able to find out for myself. Is
it documented anywhere?
All the basic information is taken straight from
[2]http://moinmo.in/HelpOnImages. The only addition not covered
*specifically* on that page is combining multiple variables.
Yes, well that's the case I was having problems with. :-)
In general moinmoin seems to document everything just by examples,
these are great in a way because you can almost always get *something*
working for yourself and then work from there.
However it would also be nice to have some 'syntax documentation' to
supplement the examples, e.g. for the attachment you'd have something
like:-
{{attachment:filename[|caption][|option[,option]]}}
with a description of the options afterwards.
Well, the Moin docs are a wiki. Have you added the details you found
helpful? ;-)
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Re: [Moin-user] Image problems
On Tue, Feb 09, 2010 at 09:41:29AM -0500, George Dinwiddie wrote:
Chris G wrote:
On Mon, Feb 08, 2010 at 07:15:55PM -0600, Rick Vanderveer wrote:
On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 4:49 PM, Chris G [1...@isbd.net wrote:
OK, thanks, but I'd really like to be able to find out for myself. Is
it documented anywhere?
All the basic information is taken straight from
[2]http://moinmo.in/HelpOnImages. The only addition not covered
*specifically* on that page is combining multiple variables.
Yes, well that's the case I was having problems with. :-)
In general moinmoin seems to document everything just by examples,
these are great in a way because you can almost always get *something*
working for yourself and then work from there.
However it would also be nice to have some 'syntax documentation' to
supplement the examples, e.g. for the attachment you'd have something
like:-
{{attachment:filename[|caption][|option[,option]]}}
with a description of the options afterwards.
Well, the Moin docs are a wiki. Have you added the details you found
helpful? ;-)
I feel rather too much of a beginner at the moment though I may well
do so in a while. The only problem is that there doesn't really
appear to be 'core syntax' area to put it in really.
The existing wiki syntax area is good as a 'quick guide' like, for
example, Quick reStructuredText at:-
http://docutils.sourceforge.net/docs/user/rst/quickref.html
but there doesn't seem to be any sort of equivalent of the full
reStructuredText specification:-
http://docutils.sourceforge.net/docs/ref/rst/restructuredtext.html
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Re: [Moin-user] Image problems
Well, Chris, keep in mind that no blogging/wiki tool is going to just
magically scale 6~12Mb photos to some arbitrary size that fits your needs.
You'll have to either make or scale your own photos.
With a simple test, I've confirmed that you can combine multiple variables.
So, for example, you should be able to point to a photo on your local
machine (say, via an apache alias, as some else pointed out), and then use
arguments to specify the width and alignment. Adapting the example on the
HelpOnImages page, here's an example.
[[attachment:Grand_Tetons.jpg|{{attachment:Grand_Tetons.jpg||width=100,align=right}}]]
There's also a couple gallery macros, which doesn't sound exactly like what
you want, but may prove useful anyway.
-Rick
On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 3:24 PM, Chris G c...@isbd.net wrote:
I'm beginning to think that putting pictures into a wiki is just not
the done thing! :-) (or maybe :-( )
I'm trying to use moinmoin (and I have also played with some other
wikis without much more success) to create some narratives of holidays
and other similar sorts of things. What I want is the ability to
create a stream of text with some pictures interleaved in it.
This is not (at least to start with) for the world to see, it's for me
and other users of the local LAN to look at and use. It's an
information resource and a place to store and add notes.
So, I have moinmoin up and working on the LAN, I can do all the sorts
of things one expects to be able to do, add pages, edit pages, create
Categories, etc., etc.
***BUT*** putting pictures into pages is a disaster. The *only* way
that works (sort of) is to actually *copy* the picture from the source
into moinmoin. Even then (I just tried it) thre result is a bit of a
mess because the picture is too big and it hides the page editing
links so now I can't change the page at all and, as it's just a
picture too big to be displayed, that's a bit of a mess.
OK, if I had a library of little thumbnails, I could use them quite
happily but for actual photos direct from a camera I really don't see
how to use them with moinmoin at all.
(OK, for a narrative maybe a blog is the way to go but I want a
narrative that starts at the beginning and finishes at the end)
... sorry if this is a bit of a rant but I've been trying to find a
solution for my requirements for several weeks now, I've gone from
WordPress to Blosxom to DokuWiki to Moinmoin (all installed here on my
system) and haven't really found a good answer yet.
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Re: [Moin-user] Image problems
On Mon, Feb 08, 2010 at 09:24:09PM +, Chris G wrote: I'm beginning to think that putting pictures into a wiki is just not the done thing! :-) (or maybe :-( ) I'm trying to use moinmoin (and I have also played with some other wikis without much more success) to create some narratives of holidays and other similar sorts of things. What I want is the ability to create a stream of text with some pictures interleaved in it. This is not (at least to start with) for the world to see, it's for me and other users of the local LAN to look at and use. It's an information resource and a place to store and add notes. So, I have moinmoin up and working on the LAN, I can do all the sorts of things one expects to be able to do, add pages, edit pages, create Categories, etc., etc. ***BUT*** putting pictures into pages is a disaster. The *only* way that works (sort of) is to actually *copy* the picture from the source into moinmoin. Even then (I just tried it) thre result is a bit of a mess because the picture is too big and it hides the page editing links so now I can't change the page at all and, as it's just a picture too big to be displayed, that's a bit of a mess. OK, if I had a library of little thumbnails, I could use them quite happily but for actual photos direct from a camera I really don't see how to use them with moinmoin at all. (OK, for a narrative maybe a blog is the way to go but I want a narrative that starts at the beginning and finishes at the end) ... sorry if this is a bit of a rant but I've been trying to find a solution for my requirements for several weeks now, I've gone from WordPress to Blosxom to DokuWiki to Moinmoin (all installed here on my system) and haven't really found a good answer yet. ... and then, I can't even get the title, align and width settings for a (copied) image to work all at the same time. Is there anywhere that documents this *properly* rather than in bits and pieces? I.e. I want to have:- ((attachment:/home/abcde/xyx/image.jpg|caption|width=1234|align=left}} ... but the above doesn't work. What's the syntax for having all the options set? -- Chris Green -- The Planet: dedicated and managed hosting, cloud storage, colocation Stay online with enterprise data centers and the best network in the business Choose flexible plans and management services without long-term contracts Personal 24x7 support from experience hosting pros just a phone call away. http://p.sf.net/sfu/theplanet-com ___ Moin-user mailing list Moin-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
Re: [Moin-user] Image problems
Your example:
((attachment:/home/abcde/xyx/image.jpg|caption|width=1234|align=left}}
would be:
{{attachment:/home/abcde/xyx/image.jpg|caption|width=1234,align=left}}
-Rick
On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 4:25 PM, Chris G c...@isbd.net wrote:
On Mon, Feb 08, 2010 at 09:24:09PM +, Chris G wrote:
I'm beginning to think that putting pictures into a wiki is just not
the done thing! :-) (or maybe :-( )
I'm trying to use moinmoin (and I have also played with some other
wikis without much more success) to create some narratives of holidays
and other similar sorts of things. What I want is the ability to
create a stream of text with some pictures interleaved in it.
This is not (at least to start with) for the world to see, it's for me
and other users of the local LAN to look at and use. It's an
information resource and a place to store and add notes.
So, I have moinmoin up and working on the LAN, I can do all the sorts
of things one expects to be able to do, add pages, edit pages, create
Categories, etc., etc.
***BUT*** putting pictures into pages is a disaster. The *only* way
that works (sort of) is to actually *copy* the picture from the source
into moinmoin. Even then (I just tried it) thre result is a bit of a
mess because the picture is too big and it hides the page editing
links so now I can't change the page at all and, as it's just a
picture too big to be displayed, that's a bit of a mess.
OK, if I had a library of little thumbnails, I could use them quite
happily but for actual photos direct from a camera I really don't see
how to use them with moinmoin at all.
(OK, for a narrative maybe a blog is the way to go but I want a
narrative that starts at the beginning and finishes at the end)
... sorry if this is a bit of a rant but I've been trying to find a
solution for my requirements for several weeks now, I've gone from
WordPress to Blosxom to DokuWiki to Moinmoin (all installed here on my
system) and haven't really found a good answer yet.
... and then, I can't even get the title, align and width settings for
a (copied) image to work all at the same time.
Is there anywhere that documents this *properly* rather than in bits
and pieces? I.e. I want to have:-
((attachment:/home/abcde/xyx/image.jpg|caption|width=1234|align=left}}
... but the above doesn't work. What's the syntax for having all the
options set?
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Re: [Moin-user] Image problems
On Mon, Feb 08, 2010 at 05:02:44PM -0500, George Dinwiddie wrote: Hi, Chris, I don't use many images in moin pages, but I do what you suggest in HTML pages. I typically use ImageMagick to create the thumbnails, these days. It lets me bulk convert from the commandline. I've used it on Linux, Windows, OS-X. It also has python bindings, I think, if you or someone wanted to create a moin plugin with it. Not really a solution for what I want to do but it makes me feel a bit less obtuse in that I'm not missing anything really obvious! :-) - George Chris G wrote: I'm beginning to think that putting pictures into a wiki is just not the done thing! :-) (or maybe :-( ) I'm trying to use moinmoin (and I have also played with some other wikis without much more success) to create some narratives of holidays and other similar sorts of things. What I want is the ability to create a stream of text with some pictures interleaved in it. This is not (at least to start with) for the world to see, it's for me and other users of the local LAN to look at and use. It's an information resource and a place to store and add notes. So, I have moinmoin up and working on the LAN, I can do all the sorts of things one expects to be able to do, add pages, edit pages, create Categories, etc., etc. ***BUT*** putting pictures into pages is a disaster. The *only* way that works (sort of) is to actually *copy* the picture from the source into moinmoin. Even then (I just tried it) thre result is a bit of a mess because the picture is too big and it hides the page editing links so now I can't change the page at all and, as it's just a picture too big to be displayed, that's a bit of a mess. OK, if I had a library of little thumbnails, I could use them quite happily but for actual photos direct from a camera I really don't see how to use them with moinmoin at all. (OK, for a narrative maybe a blog is the way to go but I want a narrative that starts at the beginning and finishes at the end) ... sorry if this is a bit of a rant but I've been trying to find a solution for my requirements for several weeks now, I've gone from WordPress to Blosxom to DokuWiki to Moinmoin (all installed here on my system) and haven't really found a good answer yet. -- -- * George Dinwiddie * http://blog.gdinwiddie.com Software Developmenthttp://www.idiacomputing.com Consultant and Coachhttp://www.agilemaryland.org -- -- The Planet: dedicated and managed hosting, cloud storage, colocation Stay online with enterprise data centers and the best network in the business Choose flexible plans and management services without long-term contracts Personal 24x7 support from experience hosting pros just a phone call away. http://p.sf.net/sfu/theplanet-com ___ Moin-user mailing list Moin-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user -- Chris Green -- The Planet: dedicated and managed hosting, cloud storage, colocation Stay online with enterprise data centers and the best network in the business Choose flexible plans and management services without long-term contracts Personal 24x7 support from experience hosting pros just a phone call away. http://p.sf.net/sfu/theplanet-com ___ Moin-user mailing list Moin-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
Re: [Moin-user] Image problems
On Mon, Feb 08, 2010 at 04:25:31PM -0600, Rick Vanderveer wrote:
Well, Chris, keep in mind that no blogging/wiki tool is going to just
magically scale 6~12Mb photos to some arbitrary size that fits your
needs. You'll have to either make or scale your own photos.
With a simple test, I've confirmed that you can combine multiple
variables. So, for example, you should be able to point to a photo on
your local machine (say, via an apache alias, as some else pointed out),
and then use arguments to specify the width and alignment. Adapting the
example on the HelpOnImages page, here's an example.
[[attachment:Grand_Tetons.jpg|{{attachment:Grand_Tetons.jpg||width=100,align=right}}]]
Aaahhh!! How/where did you find that syntax? I'd been playing with
trying to get width and align to work together and couldn't work out
how to do it. Is it documented anywhere or does one just have to guess?
There's also a couple gallery macros, which doesn't sound exactly like
what you want, but may prove useful anyway.
Yes, they might be useful, thanks.
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Re: [Moin-user] Image problems
On Mon, Feb 08, 2010 at 04:40:59PM -0600, Rick Vanderveer wrote:
Your example:
((attachment:/home/abcde/xyx/image.jpg|caption|width=1234|align=left}}
would be:
{{attachment:/home/abcde/xyx/image.jpg|caption|width=1234,align=left}}
OK, thanks, but I'd really like to be able to find out for myself. Is
it documented anywhere?
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Re: [Moin-user] Image problems
On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 4:49 PM, Chris G c...@isbd.net wrote:
On Mon, Feb 08, 2010 at 04:40:59PM -0600, Rick Vanderveer wrote:
Your example:
((attachment:/home/abcde/xyx/image.jpg|caption|width=1234|align=left}}
would be:
{{attachment:/home/abcde/xyx/image.jpg|caption|width=1234,align=left}}
OK, thanks, but I'd really like to be able to find out for myself. Is
it documented anywhere?
All the basic information is taken straight from
http://moinmo.in/HelpOnImages. The only addition not covered *specifically*
on that page is combining multiple variables.
-Rick
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