Re: [Mono-dev] Mono 3.6 release? (Mono-devel-list Digest, Vol 112, Issue 12)
Mono-3.6.0 RPMs for Tizen released.Mono for Sailfish is next. http://kitsilanosoftware.wordpress.com/2014/08/15/mono-3-6-0-rpms-for-tizen-released/ Cheers, Bob On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 11:09 AM, Bob Summerwill b...@summerwill.net wrote: OK - I'll proceed with my own announcement. Cheers, Bob On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 9:35 AM, Jo Shields direct...@apebox.org wrote: On 08/13/2014 01:47 PM, Bob Summerwill wrote: I would be delighted to contribute all of these Tizen changes back to Xamarin, including reassigning copyright of all the build scripts and VM building. I would also be happy to pay for any VMs and storage capacity which you need to carry that. Ditto for hardware costs for ARM on Linux. I guess the non-reply means no thanks on both of those offers? The Mono 3.6 Releases Notes page was created about a week ago: http://www.mono-project.com/Release_Notes_Mono_3.6 Xamarin.iOS-7.2.6 which was released about a week ago states Mono runtime/BCL updated to 3.6: http://developer.xamarin.com/releases/ios/xamarin.ios_7/ xamarin.ios_7.2/ As of yesterday the Mono Project downloads page is showing Mono 3.6 links: http://www.go-mono.com/mono-downloads/download.html Damien notes ... They did not tag the HEAD of the branch, but an older commit! But we already had a set of RPMs based on that, so no rebuild was necessary. I have updated MonoTizen's gh-pages to point to the matching binaries: 2d7113a..9f8394f gh-pages - gh-pages So can we consider Mono 3.6 to be released?Will there be a release announcement today? Yes, 3.6.0 is released now, I did the uploads yesterday evening. I'm still finding my feet on process and procedure for releases but that should improve in the coming months. I will update the http://monotizen.com page to include links to the Tizen RPMs, and make my own announcement. In the short term, I think that's the best plan - there's a bucket of stuff on my TODO list to help reach a wider Linux-based audience, but I don't have the systems and procedures in place right now for anything Tizen-related to make sense (there's more to it than just adding some VMs). You would likely reach the Tizen developer community far more effectively than I would, right now. Down the line, as I find my feet more and get the underlying structures in place, coordinating becomes much easier. -- b...@summerwill.net -- b...@summerwill.net ___ Mono-devel-list mailing list Mono-devel-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-devel-list
Re: [Mono-dev] Mono 3.6 release?
I would be delighted to contribute all of these Tizen changes back to Xamarin, including reassigning copyright of all the build scripts and VM building. I would also be happy to pay for any VMs and storage capacity which you need to carry that. Ditto for hardware costs for ARM on Linux. I guess the non-reply means no thanks on both of those offers? The Mono 3.6 Releases Notes page was created about a week ago: http://www.mono-project.com/Release_Notes_Mono_3.6 Xamarin.iOS-7.2.6 which was released about a week ago states Mono runtime/BCL updated to 3.6: http://developer.xamarin.com/releases/ios/xamarin.ios_7/xamarin.ios_7.2/ As of yesterday the Mono Project downloads page is showing Mono 3.6 links: http://www.go-mono.com/mono-downloads/download.html Damien notes ... They did not tag the HEAD of the branch, but an older commit! But we already had a set of RPMs based on that, so no rebuild was necessary. I have updated MonoTizen's gh-pages to point to the matching binaries: 2d7113a..9f8394f gh-pages - gh-pages So can we consider Mono 3.6 to be released?Will there be a release announcement today? I will update the http://monotizen.com page to include links to the Tizen RPMs, and make my own announcement. Cheers, Bob Summerwill Kitsilano Software On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 9:34 AM, Bob Summerwill b...@summerwill.net wrote: I would be delighted to contribute all of these Tizen changes back to Xamarin, including reassigning copyright of all the build scripts and VM building. I would also be happy to pay for any VMs and storage capacity which you need to carry that. Ditto for hardware costs for ARM on Linux. Cheers, Bob On Jul 31, 2014 9:30 AM, Bob Summerwill b...@summerwill.net wrote: Would that be the case even if all changes were already upstreamed to master? Because that is practically already the case with Tizen. There was only one #ifdef change to the Mono Runtime. The only other up- streaming still todo relates to fixes for pre-existing Linux ARM broken tests or Tizen build scripts. Tizen really is just another Linux distro. We're just building and hosting binaries. Why not have a community supported, use at your own risk section on the Downloads page? Cheers, Bob On Jul 31, 2014 9:21 AM, Miguel de Icaza mig...@xamarin.com wrote: Hello Bob, In general, I do not link to external packages. We only link to external packages of established communities and maintainers (like Debian, or Fedora). The only way Tizen is going to get listed on our site is when we build those packages ourselves. Miguel On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 12:41 PM, Bob Summerwill b...@summerwill.net wrote: That's what I thought, Miguel. Thanks for the clarification. With regard to the Tizen RPMs, should I just log a Bugzilla ticket to get a link added to the Mono Project downloads Web page when 3.6 gets released? Thanks. Cheers, Bob On Jul 30, 2014 9:23 AM, Miguel de Icaza mig...@xamarin.com wrote: Hello Bob, No, there is no public process for what we do. But you can keep an eye on the bugs going into Bugzilla, the commits in GitHub and the discussions on IRC. Miguel On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 11:00 AM, Bob Summerwill b...@summerwill.net wrote: I'm not in a rush. I'm just trying to coordinate release of matching Mono-3.6.0 RPMs for Tizen in an information vacuum. As Alex says, there appears to be no community-visible way to see what the outstanding issues with 3.6 are, and hence judge how close to release we may be. None of this is a big deal ... I was just wondering whether there was a community-visible process which I was unaware of other than It will be done when it is done? Cheers, Bob On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 7:26 AM, Edward Ned Harvey (mono) edward.harvey.m...@clevertrove.com wrote: From: mono-devel-list-boun...@lists.ximian.com [mailto: mono-devel-list- boun...@lists.ximian.com] On Behalf Of Miguel de Icaza If you are in a rush, use a git checkout. Or just use whatever is the latest stable release, namely 3.4.0? Unless there's a specific feature you need, there will *always* be a pending release, so it normally doesn't make sense to wait for the next pending release, but instead, normally it makes the most sense to use whatever the current release is. -- b...@summerwill.net ___ Mono-devel-list mailing list Mono-devel-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-devel-list -- b...@summerwill.net ___ Mono-devel-list mailing list Mono-devel-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-devel-list
Re: [Mono-dev] Mono 3.6 release?
It appears that the Forum system blackholed some e-mails from me. Either that, or they are still awaiting moderator approval a week later, so let's try again ... Jul 31, 2014; 9:30am [image: bobsummerwill][image: online] http://mono.1490590.n4.nabble.com/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=user_nodesuser=375773cid=1407946917911-604 bobsummerwill http://mono.1490590.n4.nabble.com/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=user_nodesuser=375773cid=1407946917911-604 Would that be the case even if all changes were already upstreamed to master? Because that is practically already the case with Tizen. There was only one #ifdef change to the Mono Runtime. The only other up- streaming still todo relates to fixes for pre-existing Linux ARM broken tests or Tizen build scripts. Tizen really is just another Linux distro. We're just building and hosting binaries. Why not have a community supported, use at your own risk section on the Downloads page? Cheers, Bob Jul 31, 2014; 9:34am [image: bobsummerwill][image: online] http://mono.1490590.n4.nabble.com/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=user_nodesuser=375773cid=1407946917911-604 bobsummerwill http://mono.1490590.n4.nabble.com/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=user_nodesuser=375773cid=1407946917911-604 I would be delighted to contribute all of these Tizen changes back to Xamarin, including reassigning copyright of all the build scripts and VM building. I would also be happy to pay for any VMs and storage capacity which you need to carry that. Ditto for hardware costs for ARM on Linux. Cheers, Bob On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 5:47 AM, Bob Summerwill b...@summerwill.net wrote: I would be delighted to contribute all of these Tizen changes back to Xamarin, including reassigning copyright of all the build scripts and VM building. I would also be happy to pay for any VMs and storage capacity which you need to carry that. Ditto for hardware costs for ARM on Linux. I guess the non-reply means no thanks on both of those offers? The Mono 3.6 Releases Notes page was created about a week ago: http://www.mono-project.com/Release_Notes_Mono_3.6 Xamarin.iOS-7.2.6 which was released about a week ago states Mono runtime/BCL updated to 3.6: http://developer.xamarin.com/releases/ios/xamarin.ios_7/xamarin.ios_7.2/ As of yesterday the Mono Project downloads page is showing Mono 3.6 links: http://www.go-mono.com/mono-downloads/download.html Damien notes ... They did not tag the HEAD of the branch, but an older commit! But we already had a set of RPMs based on that, so no rebuild was necessary. I have updated MonoTizen's gh-pages to point to the matching binaries: 2d7113a..9f8394f gh-pages - gh-pages So can we consider Mono 3.6 to be released?Will there be a release announcement today? I will update the http://monotizen.com page to include links to the Tizen RPMs, and make my own announcement. Cheers, Bob Summerwill Kitsilano Software On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 9:34 AM, Bob Summerwill b...@summerwill.net wrote: I would be delighted to contribute all of these Tizen changes back to Xamarin, including reassigning copyright of all the build scripts and VM building. I would also be happy to pay for any VMs and storage capacity which you need to carry that. Ditto for hardware costs for ARM on Linux. Cheers, Bob On Jul 31, 2014 9:30 AM, Bob Summerwill b...@summerwill.net wrote: Would that be the case even if all changes were already upstreamed to master? Because that is practically already the case with Tizen. There was only one #ifdef change to the Mono Runtime. The only other up- streaming still todo relates to fixes for pre-existing Linux ARM broken tests or Tizen build scripts. Tizen really is just another Linux distro. We're just building and hosting binaries. Why not have a community supported, use at your own risk section on the Downloads page? Cheers, Bob On Jul 31, 2014 9:21 AM, Miguel de Icaza mig...@xamarin.com wrote: Hello Bob, In general, I do not link to external packages. We only link to external packages of established communities and maintainers (like Debian, or Fedora). The only way Tizen is going to get listed on our site is when we build those packages ourselves. Miguel On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 12:41 PM, Bob Summerwill b...@summerwill.net wrote: That's what I thought, Miguel. Thanks for the clarification. With regard to the Tizen RPMs, should I just log a Bugzilla ticket to get a link added to the Mono Project downloads Web page when 3.6 gets released? Thanks. Cheers, Bob On Jul 30, 2014 9:23 AM, Miguel de Icaza mig...@xamarin.com wrote: Hello Bob, No, there is no public process for what we do. But you can keep an eye on the bugs going into Bugzilla, the commits in GitHub and the discussions on IRC. Miguel On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 11:00 AM, Bob Summerwill b...@summerwill.net wrote: I'm not in a rush. I'm just trying to
Re: [Mono-dev] Mono 3.6 release?
FYI, these came through just fine. On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 9:24 AM, Bob Summerwill b...@summerwill.net wrote: It appears that the Forum system blackholed some e-mails from me. Either that, or they are still awaiting moderator approval a week later, so let's try again ... Jul 31, 2014; 9:30am [image: bobsummerwill][image: online] http://mono.1490590.n4.nabble.com/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=user_nodesuser=375773cid=1407946917911-604 bobsummerwill http://mono.1490590.n4.nabble.com/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=user_nodesuser=375773cid=1407946917911-604 Would that be the case even if all changes were already upstreamed to master? Because that is practically already the case with Tizen. There was only one #ifdef change to the Mono Runtime. The only other up- streaming still todo relates to fixes for pre-existing Linux ARM broken tests or Tizen build scripts. Tizen really is just another Linux distro. We're just building and hosting binaries. Why not have a community supported, use at your own risk section on the Downloads page? Cheers, Bob Jul 31, 2014; 9:34am [image: bobsummerwill][image: online] http://mono.1490590.n4.nabble.com/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=user_nodesuser=375773cid=1407946917911-604 bobsummerwill http://mono.1490590.n4.nabble.com/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=user_nodesuser=375773cid=1407946917911-604 I would be delighted to contribute all of these Tizen changes back to Xamarin, including reassigning copyright of all the build scripts and VM building. I would also be happy to pay for any VMs and storage capacity which you need to carry that. Ditto for hardware costs for ARM on Linux. Cheers, Bob On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 5:47 AM, Bob Summerwill b...@summerwill.net wrote: I would be delighted to contribute all of these Tizen changes back to Xamarin, including reassigning copyright of all the build scripts and VM building. I would also be happy to pay for any VMs and storage capacity which you need to carry that. Ditto for hardware costs for ARM on Linux. I guess the non-reply means no thanks on both of those offers? The Mono 3.6 Releases Notes page was created about a week ago: http://www.mono-project.com/Release_Notes_Mono_3.6 Xamarin.iOS-7.2.6 which was released about a week ago states Mono runtime/BCL updated to 3.6: http://developer.xamarin.com/releases/ios/xamarin.ios_7/xamarin.ios_7.2/ As of yesterday the Mono Project downloads page is showing Mono 3.6 links: http://www.go-mono.com/mono-downloads/download.html Damien notes ... They did not tag the HEAD of the branch, but an older commit! But we already had a set of RPMs based on that, so no rebuild was necessary. I have updated MonoTizen's gh-pages to point to the matching binaries: 2d7113a..9f8394f gh-pages - gh-pages So can we consider Mono 3.6 to be released?Will there be a release announcement today? I will update the http://monotizen.com page to include links to the Tizen RPMs, and make my own announcement. Cheers, Bob Summerwill Kitsilano Software On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 9:34 AM, Bob Summerwill b...@summerwill.net wrote: I would be delighted to contribute all of these Tizen changes back to Xamarin, including reassigning copyright of all the build scripts and VM building. I would also be happy to pay for any VMs and storage capacity which you need to carry that. Ditto for hardware costs for ARM on Linux. Cheers, Bob On Jul 31, 2014 9:30 AM, Bob Summerwill b...@summerwill.net wrote: Would that be the case even if all changes were already upstreamed to master? Because that is practically already the case with Tizen. There was only one #ifdef change to the Mono Runtime. The only other up- streaming still todo relates to fixes for pre-existing Linux ARM broken tests or Tizen build scripts. Tizen really is just another Linux distro. We're just building and hosting binaries. Why not have a community supported, use at your own risk section on the Downloads page? Cheers, Bob On Jul 31, 2014 9:21 AM, Miguel de Icaza mig...@xamarin.com wrote: Hello Bob, In general, I do not link to external packages. We only link to external packages of established communities and maintainers (like Debian, or Fedora). The only way Tizen is going to get listed on our site is when we build those packages ourselves. Miguel On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 12:41 PM, Bob Summerwill b...@summerwill.net wrote: That's what I thought, Miguel. Thanks for the clarification. With regard to the Tizen RPMs, should I just log a Bugzilla ticket to get a link added to the Mono Project downloads Web page when 3.6 gets released? Thanks. Cheers, Bob On Jul 30, 2014 9:23 AM, Miguel de Icaza mig...@xamarin.com wrote: Hello Bob, No, there is no public process for what we do. But you can keep an eye on the bugs going into Bugzilla, the commits in GitHub and the discussions
Re: [Mono-dev] Mono 3.6 release?
So can we consider Mono 3.6 to be released?Will there be a release announcement today? yes, it is released. We will look into doing the announcement on the blog. MIguel ___ Mono-devel-list mailing list Mono-devel-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-devel-list
Re: [Mono-dev] Mono 3.6 release? (Mono-devel-list Digest, Vol 112, Issue 12)
On 08/13/2014 01:47 PM, Bob Summerwill wrote: I would be delighted to contribute all of these Tizen changes back to Xamarin, including reassigning copyright of all the build scripts and VM building. I would also be happy to pay for any VMs and storage capacity which you need to carry that. Ditto for hardware costs for ARM on Linux. I guess the non-reply means no thanks on both of those offers? The Mono 3.6 Releases Notes page was created about a week ago: http://www.mono-project.com/Release_Notes_Mono_3.6 Xamarin.iOS-7.2.6 which was released about a week ago states Mono runtime/BCL updated to 3.6: http://developer.xamarin.com/releases/ios/xamarin.ios_7/xamarin.ios_7.2/ As of yesterday the Mono Project downloads page is showing Mono 3.6 links: http://www.go-mono.com/mono-downloads/download.html Damien notes ... They did not tag the HEAD of the branch, but an older commit! But we already had a set of RPMs based on that, so no rebuild was necessary. I have updated MonoTizen's gh-pages to point to the matching binaries: 2d7113a..9f8394f gh-pages - gh-pages So can we consider Mono 3.6 to be released?Will there be a release announcement today? Yes, 3.6.0 is released now, I did the uploads yesterday evening. I'm still finding my feet on process and procedure for releases but that should improve in the coming months. I will update the http://monotizen.com page to include links to the Tizen RPMs, and make my own announcement. In the short term, I think that's the best plan - there's a bucket of stuff on my TODO list to help reach a wider Linux-based audience, but I don't have the systems and procedures in place right now for anything Tizen-related to make sense (there's more to it than just adding some VMs). You would likely reach the Tizen developer community far more effectively than I would, right now. Down the line, as I find my feet more and get the underlying structures in place, coordinating becomes much easier. ___ Mono-devel-list mailing list Mono-devel-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-devel-list
Re: [Mono-dev] Mono 3.6 release?
Hokey dokey - thanks for the confirmation. On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 9:34 AM, Miguel de Icaza mig...@xamarin.com wrote: So can we consider Mono 3.6 to be released?Will there be a release announcement today? yes, it is released. We will look into doing the announcement on the blog. MIguel -- b...@summerwill.net ___ Mono-devel-list mailing list Mono-devel-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-devel-list
Re: [Mono-dev] Mono 3.6 release? (Mono-devel-list Digest, Vol 112, Issue 12)
OK - I'll proceed with my own announcement. Cheers, Bob On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 9:35 AM, Jo Shields direct...@apebox.org wrote: On 08/13/2014 01:47 PM, Bob Summerwill wrote: I would be delighted to contribute all of these Tizen changes back to Xamarin, including reassigning copyright of all the build scripts and VM building. I would also be happy to pay for any VMs and storage capacity which you need to carry that. Ditto for hardware costs for ARM on Linux. I guess the non-reply means no thanks on both of those offers? The Mono 3.6 Releases Notes page was created about a week ago: http://www.mono-project.com/Release_Notes_Mono_3.6 Xamarin.iOS-7.2.6 which was released about a week ago states Mono runtime/BCL updated to 3.6: http://developer.xamarin.com/releases/ios/xamarin.ios_7/ xamarin.ios_7.2/ As of yesterday the Mono Project downloads page is showing Mono 3.6 links: http://www.go-mono.com/mono-downloads/download.html Damien notes ... They did not tag the HEAD of the branch, but an older commit! But we already had a set of RPMs based on that, so no rebuild was necessary. I have updated MonoTizen's gh-pages to point to the matching binaries: 2d7113a..9f8394f gh-pages - gh-pages So can we consider Mono 3.6 to be released?Will there be a release announcement today? Yes, 3.6.0 is released now, I did the uploads yesterday evening. I'm still finding my feet on process and procedure for releases but that should improve in the coming months. I will update the http://monotizen.com page to include links to the Tizen RPMs, and make my own announcement. In the short term, I think that's the best plan - there's a bucket of stuff on my TODO list to help reach a wider Linux-based audience, but I don't have the systems and procedures in place right now for anything Tizen-related to make sense (there's more to it than just adding some VMs). You would likely reach the Tizen developer community far more effectively than I would, right now. Down the line, as I find my feet more and get the underlying structures in place, coordinating becomes much easier. -- b...@summerwill.net ___ Mono-devel-list mailing list Mono-devel-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-devel-list
Re: [Mono-dev] Mono 3.6 release?
And as for Abode ... they are real losers, aren't they? They are so unloved and being chopped apart at the seams. Adobe Reader and Flash are certainly some of the most irritating pieces of software I have on my machines, and I will be delighted to be finally rid of both of them in the not too distant future. Cheers, Bob On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 2:16 PM, Bob Summerwill b...@summerwill.net wrote: Hey guys, The Mono 3.6 release line was created at the start of the month and has seen very, little movement since.We created matching Tizen RPMs several weeks ago. What is the plan for the Mono 3.6 release?Who is the Release Manager? Rodrigo? What is the process? Some more transparency to the community around Mono release process would be helpful. Thanks! Cheers, Bob -- b...@summerwill.net -- b...@summerwill.net ___ Mono-devel-list mailing list Mono-devel-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-devel-list
Re: [Mono-dev] Mono 3.6 release? (Mono-devel-list Digest, Vol 111, Issue 25)
On 07/30/2014 05:41 PM, Bob Summerwill wrote: That's what I thought, Miguel. Thanks for the clarification. With regard to the Tizen RPMs, should I just log a Bugzilla ticket to get a link added to the Mono Project downloads Web page when 3.6 gets released? Thanks. Bob, Adding Tizen RPMs to the download page is on my list of jobs, I just need to acquaint myself fully with the process for updating the production website. I haven't touched the wobbly JavaScript that builds the download page for a few years. ___ Mono-devel-list mailing list Mono-devel-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-devel-list
Re: [Mono-dev] Mono 3.6 release? (Mono-devel-list Digest, Vol 111, Issue 25)
Ha ha!Happy exploration, Jo. Good to meet you! Cheers, Bob On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 5:11 AM, Jo Shields direct...@apebox.org wrote: On 07/30/2014 05:41 PM, Bob Summerwill wrote: That's what I thought, Miguel. Thanks for the clarification. With regard to the Tizen RPMs, should I just log a Bugzilla ticket to get a link added to the Mono Project downloads Web page when 3.6 gets released? Thanks. Bob, Adding Tizen RPMs to the download page is on my list of jobs, I just need to acquaint myself fully with the process for updating the production website. I haven't touched the wobbly JavaScript that builds the download page for a few years. ___ Mono-devel-list mailing list Mono-devel-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-devel-list -- b...@summerwill.net ___ Mono-devel-list mailing list Mono-devel-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-devel-list
Re: [Mono-dev] Mono 3.6 release? (Mono-devel-list Digest, Vol 111, Issue 25)
The Tizen RPMs for Mono-3.6 are hosted on the Github Page for MonoTizen, which is ... https://github.com/kitsilanosoftware/MonoTizen/tree/gh-pages/rpms Which then maps to ... http://kitsilanosoftware.github.io/MonoTizen/ These are the main RPMs for the production Tizen-2.2.1 release: 2.2.1-armv7l 2.2.1-i686 And we also have RPMs for the WIP Tizen 3.0. Cheers, Bob On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 8:42 AM, Bob Summerwill b...@summerwill.net wrote: Ha ha!Happy exploration, Jo. Good to meet you! Cheers, Bob On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 5:11 AM, Jo Shields direct...@apebox.org wrote: On 07/30/2014 05:41 PM, Bob Summerwill wrote: That's what I thought, Miguel. Thanks for the clarification. With regard to the Tizen RPMs, should I just log a Bugzilla ticket to get a link added to the Mono Project downloads Web page when 3.6 gets released? Thanks. Bob, Adding Tizen RPMs to the download page is on my list of jobs, I just need to acquaint myself fully with the process for updating the production website. I haven't touched the wobbly JavaScript that builds the download page for a few years. ___ Mono-devel-list mailing list Mono-devel-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-devel-list -- b...@summerwill.net -- b...@summerwill.net ___ Mono-devel-list mailing list Mono-devel-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-devel-list
Re: [Mono-dev] Mono 3.6 release?
Hello Bob, In general, I do not link to external packages. We only link to external packages of established communities and maintainers (like Debian, or Fedora). The only way Tizen is going to get listed on our site is when we build those packages ourselves. Miguel On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 12:41 PM, Bob Summerwill b...@summerwill.net wrote: That's what I thought, Miguel. Thanks for the clarification. With regard to the Tizen RPMs, should I just log a Bugzilla ticket to get a link added to the Mono Project downloads Web page when 3.6 gets released? Thanks. Cheers, Bob On Jul 30, 2014 9:23 AM, Miguel de Icaza mig...@xamarin.com wrote: Hello Bob, No, there is no public process for what we do. But you can keep an eye on the bugs going into Bugzilla, the commits in GitHub and the discussions on IRC. Miguel On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 11:00 AM, Bob Summerwill b...@summerwill.net wrote: I'm not in a rush. I'm just trying to coordinate release of matching Mono-3.6.0 RPMs for Tizen in an information vacuum. As Alex says, there appears to be no community-visible way to see what the outstanding issues with 3.6 are, and hence judge how close to release we may be. None of this is a big deal ... I was just wondering whether there was a community-visible process which I was unaware of other than It will be done when it is done? Cheers, Bob On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 7:26 AM, Edward Ned Harvey (mono) edward.harvey.m...@clevertrove.com wrote: From: mono-devel-list-boun...@lists.ximian.com [mailto: mono-devel-list- boun...@lists.ximian.com] On Behalf Of Miguel de Icaza If you are in a rush, use a git checkout. Or just use whatever is the latest stable release, namely 3.4.0? Unless there's a specific feature you need, there will *always* be a pending release, so it normally doesn't make sense to wait for the next pending release, but instead, normally it makes the most sense to use whatever the current release is. -- b...@summerwill.net ___ Mono-devel-list mailing list Mono-devel-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-devel-list
Re: [Mono-dev] Mono 3.6 release?
Would that be the case even if all changes were already upstreamed to master? Because that is practically already the case with Tizen. There was only one #ifdef change to the Mono Runtime. The only other up- streaming still todo relates to fixes for pre-existing Linux ARM broken tests or Tizen build scripts. Tizen really is just another Linux distro. We're just building and hosting binaries. Why not have a community supported, use at your own risk section on the Downloads page? Cheers, Bob On Jul 31, 2014 9:21 AM, Miguel de Icaza mig...@xamarin.com wrote: Hello Bob, In general, I do not link to external packages. We only link to external packages of established communities and maintainers (like Debian, or Fedora). The only way Tizen is going to get listed on our site is when we build those packages ourselves. Miguel On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 12:41 PM, Bob Summerwill b...@summerwill.net wrote: That's what I thought, Miguel. Thanks for the clarification. With regard to the Tizen RPMs, should I just log a Bugzilla ticket to get a link added to the Mono Project downloads Web page when 3.6 gets released? Thanks. Cheers, Bob On Jul 30, 2014 9:23 AM, Miguel de Icaza mig...@xamarin.com wrote: Hello Bob, No, there is no public process for what we do. But you can keep an eye on the bugs going into Bugzilla, the commits in GitHub and the discussions on IRC. Miguel On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 11:00 AM, Bob Summerwill b...@summerwill.net wrote: I'm not in a rush. I'm just trying to coordinate release of matching Mono-3.6.0 RPMs for Tizen in an information vacuum. As Alex says, there appears to be no community-visible way to see what the outstanding issues with 3.6 are, and hence judge how close to release we may be. None of this is a big deal ... I was just wondering whether there was a community-visible process which I was unaware of other than It will be done when it is done? Cheers, Bob On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 7:26 AM, Edward Ned Harvey (mono) edward.harvey.m...@clevertrove.com wrote: From: mono-devel-list-boun...@lists.ximian.com [mailto: mono-devel-list- boun...@lists.ximian.com] On Behalf Of Miguel de Icaza If you are in a rush, use a git checkout. Or just use whatever is the latest stable release, namely 3.4.0? Unless there's a specific feature you need, there will *always* be a pending release, so it normally doesn't make sense to wait for the next pending release, but instead, normally it makes the most sense to use whatever the current release is. -- b...@summerwill.net ___ Mono-devel-list mailing list Mono-devel-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-devel-list ___ Mono-devel-list mailing list Mono-devel-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-devel-list
Re: [Mono-dev] Mono 3.6 release?
I would be delighted to contribute all of these Tizen changes back to Xamarin, including reassigning copyright of all the build scripts and VM building. I would also be happy to pay for any VMs and storage capacity which you need to carry that. Ditto for hardware costs for ARM on Linux. Cheers, Bob On Jul 31, 2014 9:30 AM, Bob Summerwill b...@summerwill.net wrote: Would that be the case even if all changes were already upstreamed to master? Because that is practically already the case with Tizen. There was only one #ifdef change to the Mono Runtime. The only other up- streaming still todo relates to fixes for pre-existing Linux ARM broken tests or Tizen build scripts. Tizen really is just another Linux distro. We're just building and hosting binaries. Why not have a community supported, use at your own risk section on the Downloads page? Cheers, Bob On Jul 31, 2014 9:21 AM, Miguel de Icaza mig...@xamarin.com wrote: Hello Bob, In general, I do not link to external packages. We only link to external packages of established communities and maintainers (like Debian, or Fedora). The only way Tizen is going to get listed on our site is when we build those packages ourselves. Miguel On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 12:41 PM, Bob Summerwill b...@summerwill.net wrote: That's what I thought, Miguel. Thanks for the clarification. With regard to the Tizen RPMs, should I just log a Bugzilla ticket to get a link added to the Mono Project downloads Web page when 3.6 gets released? Thanks. Cheers, Bob On Jul 30, 2014 9:23 AM, Miguel de Icaza mig...@xamarin.com wrote: Hello Bob, No, there is no public process for what we do. But you can keep an eye on the bugs going into Bugzilla, the commits in GitHub and the discussions on IRC. Miguel On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 11:00 AM, Bob Summerwill b...@summerwill.net wrote: I'm not in a rush. I'm just trying to coordinate release of matching Mono-3.6.0 RPMs for Tizen in an information vacuum. As Alex says, there appears to be no community-visible way to see what the outstanding issues with 3.6 are, and hence judge how close to release we may be. None of this is a big deal ... I was just wondering whether there was a community-visible process which I was unaware of other than It will be done when it is done? Cheers, Bob On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 7:26 AM, Edward Ned Harvey (mono) edward.harvey.m...@clevertrove.com wrote: From: mono-devel-list-boun...@lists.ximian.com [mailto: mono-devel-list- boun...@lists.ximian.com] On Behalf Of Miguel de Icaza If you are in a rush, use a git checkout. Or just use whatever is the latest stable release, namely 3.4.0? Unless there's a specific feature you need, there will *always* be a pending release, so it normally doesn't make sense to wait for the next pending release, but instead, normally it makes the most sense to use whatever the current release is. -- b...@summerwill.net ___ Mono-devel-list mailing list Mono-devel-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-devel-list ___ Mono-devel-list mailing list Mono-devel-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-devel-list
Re: [Mono-dev] Mono 3.6 release?
PS. Ditto for the MonoDevelop.Tizen add-in and for the Tizen SDK bindings when we have those working. MonoTizen is not a fork or product. It's just a manner to get Mono for Tizen working. I'm also working on getting Mono directly into the Tizen distro itself, as has already happened for Qt, as a community project. Cheers, Bob On Jul 31, 2014 9:34 AM, Bob Summerwill b...@summerwill.net wrote: I would be delighted to contribute all of these Tizen changes back to Xamarin, including reassigning copyright of all the build scripts and VM building. I would also be happy to pay for any VMs and storage capacity which you need to carry that. Ditto for hardware costs for ARM on Linux. Cheers, Bob On Jul 31, 2014 9:30 AM, Bob Summerwill b...@summerwill.net wrote: Would that be the case even if all changes were already upstreamed to master? Because that is practically already the case with Tizen. There was only one #ifdef change to the Mono Runtime. The only other up- streaming still todo relates to fixes for pre-existing Linux ARM broken tests or Tizen build scripts. Tizen really is just another Linux distro. We're just building and hosting binaries. Why not have a community supported, use at your own risk section on the Downloads page? Cheers, Bob On Jul 31, 2014 9:21 AM, Miguel de Icaza mig...@xamarin.com wrote: Hello Bob, In general, I do not link to external packages. We only link to external packages of established communities and maintainers (like Debian, or Fedora). The only way Tizen is going to get listed on our site is when we build those packages ourselves. Miguel On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 12:41 PM, Bob Summerwill b...@summerwill.net wrote: That's what I thought, Miguel. Thanks for the clarification. With regard to the Tizen RPMs, should I just log a Bugzilla ticket to get a link added to the Mono Project downloads Web page when 3.6 gets released? Thanks. Cheers, Bob On Jul 30, 2014 9:23 AM, Miguel de Icaza mig...@xamarin.com wrote: Hello Bob, No, there is no public process for what we do. But you can keep an eye on the bugs going into Bugzilla, the commits in GitHub and the discussions on IRC. Miguel On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 11:00 AM, Bob Summerwill b...@summerwill.net wrote: I'm not in a rush. I'm just trying to coordinate release of matching Mono-3.6.0 RPMs for Tizen in an information vacuum. As Alex says, there appears to be no community-visible way to see what the outstanding issues with 3.6 are, and hence judge how close to release we may be. None of this is a big deal ... I was just wondering whether there was a community-visible process which I was unaware of other than It will be done when it is done? Cheers, Bob On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 7:26 AM, Edward Ned Harvey (mono) edward.harvey.m...@clevertrove.com wrote: From: mono-devel-list-boun...@lists.ximian.com [mailto: mono-devel-list- boun...@lists.ximian.com] On Behalf Of Miguel de Icaza If you are in a rush, use a git checkout. Or just use whatever is the latest stable release, namely 3.4.0? Unless there's a specific feature you need, there will *always* be a pending release, so it normally doesn't make sense to wait for the next pending release, but instead, normally it makes the most sense to use whatever the current release is. -- b...@summerwill.net ___ Mono-devel-list mailing list Mono-devel-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-devel-list ___ Mono-devel-list mailing list Mono-devel-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-devel-list
Re: [Mono-dev] Mono 3.6 release?
On 29/07/2014 22:59, Miguel de Icaza wrote: Yes, we do make a branch, and then we put it through QA. The we fix all the bugs that QA finds, and when we are ready we release. What is important is to not regress, so things will take as long as they need to, because we are not going to ship a version that breaks someone's system, just because someone is in a rush. If you are in a rush, use a git checkout. Miguel, I can't see any bugs filed against a 3.6.0 runtime here? https://bugzilla.xamarin.com/enter_bug.cgi?product=Runtime Where's the best place to go to form a view on outstanding Q/A bugs and thus rough ETA to release? Also, is building/installing on Windows tested under the Q/A process ? Thanks, Alex ___ Mono-devel-list mailing list Mono-devel-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-devel-list
Re: [Mono-dev] Mono 3.6 release?
From: mono-devel-list-boun...@lists.ximian.com [mailto:mono-devel-list- boun...@lists.ximian.com] On Behalf Of Miguel de Icaza If you are in a rush, use a git checkout. Or just use whatever is the latest stable release, namely 3.4.0? Unless there's a specific feature you need, there will *always* be a pending release, so it normally doesn't make sense to wait for the next pending release, but instead, normally it makes the most sense to use whatever the current release is. ___ Mono-devel-list mailing list Mono-devel-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-devel-list
Re: [Mono-dev] Mono 3.6 release?
I'm not in a rush. I'm just trying to coordinate release of matching Mono-3.6.0 RPMs for Tizen in an information vacuum. As Alex says, there appears to be no community-visible way to see what the outstanding issues with 3.6 are, and hence judge how close to release we may be. None of this is a big deal ... I was just wondering whether there was a community-visible process which I was unaware of other than It will be done when it is done? Cheers, Bob On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 7:26 AM, Edward Ned Harvey (mono) edward.harvey.m...@clevertrove.com wrote: From: mono-devel-list-boun...@lists.ximian.com [mailto:mono-devel-list- boun...@lists.ximian.com] On Behalf Of Miguel de Icaza If you are in a rush, use a git checkout. Or just use whatever is the latest stable release, namely 3.4.0? Unless there's a specific feature you need, there will *always* be a pending release, so it normally doesn't make sense to wait for the next pending release, but instead, normally it makes the most sense to use whatever the current release is. -- b...@summerwill.net ___ Mono-devel-list mailing list Mono-devel-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-devel-list
Re: [Mono-dev] Mono 3.6 release?
On 30/07/2014 16:00, Bob Summerwill wrote: I'm not in a rush. I'm just trying to coordinate release of matching Mono-3.6.0 RPMs for Tizen in an information vacuum. As Alex says, there appears to be no community-visible way to see what the outstanding issues with 3.6 are, and hence judge how close to release we may be. None of this is a big deal ... I was just wondering whether there was a community-visible process which I was unaware of other than It will be done when it is done? fwiw - Pesonally I am not interested in a fast release or a rushed release, just a roadmap for a release so I can try to plan my time out. i.e. When the next official release of Mono 3.6.x is available I plan to update Yocto meta-mono support, do some testing, and possibly revisit some build instructions for Windows if necessary. I would also be very interested to see what is classed as a Q/A bug, and what is tested by Q/A prior to release. For example, I contributed a bug report on Mono failures under ARM hardfp some time ago and would love some feedback from somebody on what I might be able to do to fix this. Surely this is the type of thing Q/A would be looking to resolve prior to a release? Mono doesn't work on hard float abi on ARM ref: https://bugzilla.xamarin.com/show_bug.cgi?id=7938 Cheers, Alex ___ Mono-devel-list mailing list Mono-devel-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-devel-list
Re: [Mono-dev] Mono 3.6 release?
On 30/07/2014 16:00, Bob Summerwill wrote: I'm not in a rush. I'm just trying to coordinate release of matching Mono-3.6.0 RPMs for Tizen in an information vacuum. As Alex says, there appears to be no community-visible way to see what the outstanding issues with 3.6 are, and hence judge how close to release we may be. None of this is a big deal ... I was just wondering whether there was a community-visible process which I was unaware of other than It will be done when it is done? ref: https://bugzilla.xamarin.com/show_bug.cgi?id=7938 *Correction: Mono 3.4.0 (and earlier) fails on armhf platforms with Windows Form including textbox ref: https://bugzilla.xamarin.com/show_bug.cgi?id=20239 Cheers, Alex ___ Mono-devel-list mailing list Mono-devel-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-devel-list
Re: [Mono-dev] Mono 3.6 release?
We are not fast or rushed either however we need to run a massive number of regressions against mono and it would be good to be able to do this concurrently with the mono QA both for us and for mono :) On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 6:00 PM, Bob Summerwill b...@summerwill.net wrote: I'm not in a rush. I'm just trying to coordinate release of matching Mono-3.6.0 RPMs for Tizen in an information vacuum. As Alex says, there appears to be no community-visible way to see what the outstanding issues with 3.6 are, and hence judge how close to release we may be. None of this is a big deal ... I was just wondering whether there was a community-visible process which I was unaware of other than It will be done when it is done? Cheers, Bob On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 7:26 AM, Edward Ned Harvey (mono) edward.harvey.m...@clevertrove.com wrote: From: mono-devel-list-boun...@lists.ximian.com [mailto:mono-devel-list- boun...@lists.ximian.com] On Behalf Of Miguel de Icaza If you are in a rush, use a git checkout. Or just use whatever is the latest stable release, namely 3.4.0? Unless there's a specific feature you need, there will *always* be a pending release, so it normally doesn't make sense to wait for the next pending release, but instead, normally it makes the most sense to use whatever the current release is. -- b...@summerwill.net ___ Mono-devel-list mailing list Mono-devel-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-devel-list -- Studying for the Turing test ___ Mono-devel-list mailing list Mono-devel-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-devel-list
Re: [Mono-dev] Mono 3.6 release?
Hello Bob, No, there is no public process for what we do. But you can keep an eye on the bugs going into Bugzilla, the commits in GitHub and the discussions on IRC. Miguel On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 11:00 AM, Bob Summerwill b...@summerwill.net wrote: I'm not in a rush. I'm just trying to coordinate release of matching Mono-3.6.0 RPMs for Tizen in an information vacuum. As Alex says, there appears to be no community-visible way to see what the outstanding issues with 3.6 are, and hence judge how close to release we may be. None of this is a big deal ... I was just wondering whether there was a community-visible process which I was unaware of other than It will be done when it is done? Cheers, Bob On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 7:26 AM, Edward Ned Harvey (mono) edward.harvey.m...@clevertrove.com wrote: From: mono-devel-list-boun...@lists.ximian.com [mailto:mono-devel-list- boun...@lists.ximian.com] On Behalf Of Miguel de Icaza If you are in a rush, use a git checkout. Or just use whatever is the latest stable release, namely 3.4.0? Unless there's a specific feature you need, there will *always* be a pending release, so it normally doesn't make sense to wait for the next pending release, but instead, normally it makes the most sense to use whatever the current release is. -- b...@summerwill.net ___ Mono-devel-list mailing list Mono-devel-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-devel-list
Re: [Mono-dev] Mono 3.6 release?
That's what I thought, Miguel. Thanks for the clarification. With regard to the Tizen RPMs, should I just log a Bugzilla ticket to get a link added to the Mono Project downloads Web page when 3.6 gets released? Thanks. Cheers, Bob On Jul 30, 2014 9:23 AM, Miguel de Icaza mig...@xamarin.com wrote: Hello Bob, No, there is no public process for what we do. But you can keep an eye on the bugs going into Bugzilla, the commits in GitHub and the discussions on IRC. Miguel On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 11:00 AM, Bob Summerwill b...@summerwill.net wrote: I'm not in a rush. I'm just trying to coordinate release of matching Mono-3.6.0 RPMs for Tizen in an information vacuum. As Alex says, there appears to be no community-visible way to see what the outstanding issues with 3.6 are, and hence judge how close to release we may be. None of this is a big deal ... I was just wondering whether there was a community-visible process which I was unaware of other than It will be done when it is done? Cheers, Bob On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 7:26 AM, Edward Ned Harvey (mono) edward.harvey.m...@clevertrove.com wrote: From: mono-devel-list-boun...@lists.ximian.com [mailto: mono-devel-list- boun...@lists.ximian.com] On Behalf Of Miguel de Icaza If you are in a rush, use a git checkout. Or just use whatever is the latest stable release, namely 3.4.0? Unless there's a specific feature you need, there will *always* be a pending release, so it normally doesn't make sense to wait for the next pending release, but instead, normally it makes the most sense to use whatever the current release is. -- b...@summerwill.net ___ Mono-devel-list mailing list Mono-devel-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-devel-list
Re: [Mono-dev] Mono 3.6 release?
What is the plan for the Mono 3.6 release?Who is the Release Manager? Rodrigo? What is the process? Some more transparency to the community around Mono release process would be helpful. Thanks! +! On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 12:16 AM, Bob Summerwill b...@summerwill.net wrote: Hey guys, The Mono 3.6 release line was created at the start of the month and has seen very, little movement since.We created matching Tizen RPMs several weeks ago. What is the plan for the Mono 3.6 release?Who is the Release Manager? Rodrigo? What is the process? Some more transparency to the community around Mono release process would be helpful. Thanks! Cheers, Bob -- b...@summerwill.net ___ Mono-devel-list mailing list Mono-devel-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-devel-list -- Studying for the Turing test ___ Mono-devel-list mailing list Mono-devel-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-devel-list
Re: [Mono-dev] Mono 3.6 release?
Yes, we do make a branch, and then we put it through QA. The we fix all the bugs that QA finds, and when we are ready we release. What is important is to not regress, so things will take as long as they need to, because we are not going to ship a version that breaks someone's system, just because someone is in a rush. If you are in a rush, use a git checkout. Miguel On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 5:16 PM, Bob Summerwill b...@summerwill.net wrote: Hey guys, The Mono 3.6 release line was created at the start of the month and has seen very, little movement since.We created matching Tizen RPMs several weeks ago. What is the plan for the Mono 3.6 release?Who is the Release Manager? Rodrigo? What is the process? Some more transparency to the community around Mono release process would be helpful. Thanks! Cheers, Bob -- b...@summerwill.net ___ Mono-devel-list mailing list Mono-devel-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-devel-list ___ Mono-devel-list mailing list Mono-devel-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-devel-list
