Re: [Mono-dev] Mono Daily Downloads
Michael Schurter escribió: Steve Deobald wrote: It's also Windows-only and uses a proprietary RAR plugin, as far as I know. 7-zip is very much cross-platform compatible. NSIS uses it (and it works in Linux), and Debian even has packages for it in Etch. Well that's p7zip[1] not 7-zip :) 7z, as well as a number of other open source tools, can decompress RAR archives. I believe there are patents or some such nonsense preventing open source RAR implementations. 7z has it's own 7z format [2] which is open and performs much better than zip (today's mono-1.2.20061113.zip is 31MB while with 7z default options it's only 13MB). Though it's not probably the best format (neither is rar) for this task as p7zip may not be widespread enough. [1] - http://p7zip.sourceforge.net/ [2] - http://7-zip.org/7z.html Regards, -- Angel Marin http://anmar.eu.org/ ___ Mono-devel-list mailing list Mono-devel-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-devel-list
Re: [Mono-dev] Mono Daily Downloads
Guys, I don't think we are interested in which compression format is most efficient for compression. Only popular, *really* popular ones such as tar.gz, tar.bz2 or zip would be the choice(s). (What I practically mean is, it is being so off-topic.) Atsushi Eno Angel Marin wrote: Michael Schurter escribió: Steve Deobald wrote: It's also Windows-only and uses a proprietary RAR plugin, as far as I know. 7-zip is very much cross-platform compatible. NSIS uses it (and it works in Linux), and Debian even has packages for it in Etch. Well that's p7zip[1] not 7-zip :) 7z, as well as a number of other open source tools, can decompress RAR archives. I believe there are patents or some such nonsense preventing open source RAR implementations. 7z has it's own 7z format [2] which is open and performs much better than zip (today's mono-1.2.20061113.zip is 31MB while with 7z default options it's only 13MB). Though it's not probably the best format (neither is rar) for this task as p7zip may not be widespread enough. [1] - http://p7zip.sourceforge.net/ [2] - http://7-zip.org/7z.html Regards, ___ Mono-devel-list mailing list Mono-devel-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-devel-list
Re: [Mono-dev] Mono Daily Downloads
Raja has fixed the files that were causing the issues with 'make dist', so I've reverted back to using 'make dist' instead of 'make dist-zip'. Wade On Fri, 2006-11-10 at 13:06 -0700, Wade Berrier wrote: Hi, Several have reported that the tarballs available from mono.ximian.com/daily are not buildable. This is caused by some limitations of the tar format we're using. We must use this limited format to support some older distros. To alleviate this I've begun to use the zip file format for the source distribution instead. (This is created by running make dist-zip instead of make dist). monolite and monocharger will remain in tar.gz format, but the source download is in .zip format. Wade -- Wade Berrier Mono Team [EMAIL PROTECTED] 801-861-5132 Novell, Inc. SUSE® Linux Enterprise 10 Your Linux is ready http://www.novell.com/linux signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Mono-devel-list mailing list Mono-devel-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-devel-list
Re: [Mono-dev] Mono Daily Downloads
Rar isn't very free software friendly. On 11/10/06, John Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wade Berrier wrote: Hi, Yes, it is much worse... 20MB to 32MB :( Have you tried rar? ___ Mono-devel-list mailing list Mono-devel-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-devel-list ___ Mono-devel-list mailing list Mono-devel-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-devel-list
Re: [Mono-dev] Mono Daily Downloads
Steve Deobald wrote: Rar isn't very free software friendly. 7-zip is, but its not very widespread yet. http://7-zip.org/ -- Michael Schurter ___ Mono-devel-list mailing list Mono-devel-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-devel-list
Re: [Mono-dev] Mono Daily Downloads
It's also Windows-only and uses a proprietary RAR plugin, as far as I know. On 11/12/06, Michael Schurter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve Deobald wrote: Rar isn't very free software friendly. 7-zip is, but its not very widespread yet. http://7-zip.org/ -- Michael Schurter ___ Mono-devel-list mailing list Mono-devel-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-devel-list ___ Mono-devel-list mailing list Mono-devel-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-devel-list
Re: [Mono-dev] Mono Daily Downloads
Steve Deobald wrote: It's also Windows-only and uses a proprietary RAR plugin, as far as I know. 7-zip is very much cross-platform compatible. NSIS uses it (and it works in Linux), and Debian even has packages for it in Etch. 7z, as well as a number of other open source tools, can decompress RAR archives. I believe there are patents or some such nonsense preventing open source RAR implementations. However, like I said: 7z isn't very widespread so probably not an option. I find it hard to believe that there isn't some tar format that works considering how universal tar is. ___ Mono-devel-list mailing list Mono-devel-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-devel-list
Re: [Mono-dev] Mono Daily Downloads
Hi, I think zip archive for text files is much worse than tgz at compression. How was the difference? Atsushi Eno Wade Berrier wrote: Hi, Several have reported that the tarballs available from mono.ximian.com/daily are not buildable. This is caused by some limitations of the tar format we're using. We must use this limited format to support some older distros. To alleviate this I've begun to use the zip file format for the source distribution instead. (This is created by running make dist-zip instead of make dist). monolite and monocharger will remain in tar.gz format, but the source download is in .zip format. Wade ___ Mono-devel-list mailing list Mono-devel-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-devel-list ___ Mono-devel-list mailing list Mono-devel-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-devel-list
Re: [Mono-dev] Mono Daily Downloads
Hi, Yes, it is much worse... 20MB to 32MB :( Wade On Sat, 2006-11-11 at 06:24 +0900, Atsushi Eno wrote: Hi, I think zip archive for text files is much worse than tgz at compression. How was the difference? Atsushi Eno Wade Berrier wrote: Hi, Several have reported that the tarballs available from mono.ximian.com/daily are not buildable. This is caused by some limitations of the tar format we're using. We must use this limited format to support some older distros. To alleviate this I've begun to use the zip file format for the source distribution instead. (This is created by running make dist-zip instead of make dist). monolite and monocharger will remain in tar.gz format, but the source download is in .zip format. Wade ___ Mono-devel-list mailing list Mono-devel-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-devel-list ___ Mono-devel-list mailing list Mono-devel-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-devel-list
Re: [Mono-dev] Mono Daily Downloads
Hmm... is it difficult to produce both zip and tar.gz (or.bz2) ? Atsushi Eno Wade Berrier wrote: Hi, Yes, it is much worse... 20MB to 32MB :( Wade On Sat, 2006-11-11 at 06:24 +0900, Atsushi Eno wrote: Hi, I think zip archive for text files is much worse than tgz at compression. How was the difference? Atsushi Eno Wade Berrier wrote: Hi, Several have reported that the tarballs available from mono.ximian.com/daily are not buildable. This is caused by some limitations of the tar format we're using. We must use this limited format to support some older distros. To alleviate this I've begun to use the zip file format for the source distribution instead. (This is created by running make dist-zip instead of make dist). monolite and monocharger will remain in tar.gz format, but the source download is in .zip format. Wade ___ Mono-devel-list mailing list Mono-devel-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-devel-list ___ Mono-devel-list mailing list Mono-devel-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-devel-list
Re: [Mono-dev] Mono Daily Downloads
Wade Berrier wrote: Hi, Yes, it is much worse... 20MB to 32MB :( Have you tried rar? ___ Mono-devel-list mailing list Mono-devel-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-devel-list
