Re: [Mono-dev] Porting HttpApplication and associated classes
First, we need to the fork and sub-module up and running for the reference source, so I can doing pull requests on there. The referencesource submodule is there Second, come up with a way to exclude code without deleting it (I'm assuming we won't to go down the #ifdef route rather than simply removing the code from the fork). I'm thinking there's probably something we can use already, so just need to know what that is. (something like #if !MONO ??) We should introduce a define, yes. Perhaps we can introduce a CROSS_PLATFORM define that we use on the Reference source to annotate those cases. Third, Miguel had an idea of how to do the String resources so we don't need to refactor large amounts of the referencesource. The script needs work, and is probably a job in it's own right. That will get you running for now ;) Finally, as I won't be replacing every file, some will just have large amounts of additions/fixes, it's probably worth getting the legacy #ifdef's before I send a pull. Nah, I think it is easy. The way you replace a class, is to remove the file from the .sources and add the new one. That should cover most bases. Miguel ___ Mono-devel-list mailing list Mono-devel-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-devel-list
Re: [Mono-dev] Porting HttpApplication and associated classes
Thanks Miguel, I'll get started properly tonight. So the DEFINE will be #if !CROSS_PLATFORM to exclude anything that is native and won't work on non-windows? On 20 November 2014 13:27, Miguel de Icaza mig...@xamarin.com wrote: First, we need to the fork and sub-module up and running for the reference source, so I can doing pull requests on there. The referencesource submodule is there Second, come up with a way to exclude code without deleting it (I'm assuming we won't to go down the #ifdef route rather than simply removing the code from the fork). I'm thinking there's probably something we can use already, so just need to know what that is. (something like #if !MONO ??) We should introduce a define, yes. Perhaps we can introduce a CROSS_PLATFORM define that we use on the Reference source to annotate those cases. Third, Miguel had an idea of how to do the String resources so we don't need to refactor large amounts of the referencesource. The script needs work, and is probably a job in it's own right. That will get you running for now ;) Finally, as I won't be replacing every file, some will just have large amounts of additions/fixes, it's probably worth getting the legacy #ifdef's before I send a pull. Nah, I think it is easy. The way you replace a class, is to remove the file from the .sources and add the new one. That should cover most bases. Miguel ___ Mono-devel-list mailing list Mono-devel-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-devel-list
[Mono-dev] Long time Mono devs: share lessons learned for .NET Core
MS is looking for some insights into the early days of Mono for the .NET Core effort over at the .NET foundation forums (http://forums.dotnetfoundation.org/t/the-early-days-of-mono/497): I'm working on banging into shape the engineering systems for the Linux ports of the .NET Core effort. I was wondering whether anyone knows about the early days of Mono. What was the engineering system (CI, etc.) like back then? Was there any aspect that was really good or really bad that we can learn from when working on .NET Core? I guess Miguel and the other folks at Xamarin are around the longest, but I thought I'd post it here in case someone else has interesting stories to share :) -- Alex ___ Mono-devel-list mailing list Mono-devel-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-devel-list
Re: [Mono-dev] Porting HttpApplication and associated classes
Yes. We will add the defines to the build profile so you get them soon On Thursday, November 20, 2014, Martin Thwaites monofo...@my2cents.co.uk wrote: Thanks Miguel, I'll get started properly tonight. So the DEFINE will be #if !CROSS_PLATFORM to exclude anything that is native and won't work on non-windows? On 20 November 2014 13:27, Miguel de Icaza mig...@xamarin.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','mig...@xamarin.com'); wrote: First, we need to the fork and sub-module up and running for the reference source, so I can doing pull requests on there. The referencesource submodule is there Second, come up with a way to exclude code without deleting it (I'm assuming we won't to go down the #ifdef route rather than simply removing the code from the fork). I'm thinking there's probably something we can use already, so just need to know what that is. (something like #if !MONO ??) We should introduce a define, yes. Perhaps we can introduce a CROSS_PLATFORM define that we use on the Reference source to annotate those cases. Third, Miguel had an idea of how to do the String resources so we don't need to refactor large amounts of the referencesource. The script needs work, and is probably a job in it's own right. That will get you running for now ;) Finally, as I won't be replacing every file, some will just have large amounts of additions/fixes, it's probably worth getting the legacy #ifdef's before I send a pull. Nah, I think it is easy. The way you replace a class, is to remove the file from the .sources and add the new one. That should cover most bases. Miguel ___ Mono-devel-list mailing list Mono-devel-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-devel-list
[Mono-dev] Mono on Embedded Platform
Hey, I am very new to mono. I am looking forward to use this great platform over Linux on ARM target. I have following point to check before start. 1) 1) How can I achieve small footprint from mono. I have followed the below link but it produces install directory which is more than 100 MB with mono 3.10.0. http://www.mono-project.com/docs/compiling-mono/small-footprint/ I would like to know below listed things are manual way of doing or I can do this by using any of the configure option. · Removing unneeded features · Removing unneeded data · Compilation hints · Reducing code in assemblies 2) 2) I will going to write application which is multitasking/multithreading, accessing some device port, talking to Ethernet, running WEB service. Can anyone suggest with mono over Linux what is Flash RAM size I should use. Techi ___ Mono-devel-list mailing list Mono-devel-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-devel-list
Re: [Mono-list] Cross-Platform GUI Tookit
Xamarin Studio / MonoDevelop is not really going to use MVVM, it will use MVC. El 18/11/2014, a les 21:33, Daniel Hughes tramps...@gmail.com va escriure: Jonathan can you comment on Xamarins plans for MVVM with Xamarin Studio/MonoDevelop, can we expect GTK# support to be added to MVVMCross, or is there some other approach you will be taking. Cheers, Daniel Hughes On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 4:46 AM, Jonathan Pryor jonpr...@vt.edu wrote: On Nov 17, 2014, at 10:55 PM, Edward Ned Harvey (mono) edward.harvey.m...@clevertrove.com wrote: The fact that XS/MD is or was based on Xwt is a good sign based on might be a bit strong. It *uses* Xwt. Most of the current Xamarin Studio/MonoDevelop code is based on Gtk#. *Parts* were done in Xwt so that those parts could use the platform-native UI and share code with Visual Studio (e.g. File Open, the Android designer), but most was written in, and continues to be in, Gtk#. - Jon ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list
[Mono-list] ASP.net and Licensing
Hey What is licensing terms of ASP.net of mono ? Is they same than licenses of mono ? Can I do commercial software with it and if I can what kind of things I need to add with my project ? And what is the license terms if I host my project for customers ? Do I need to buy Xamarin license ? -- View this message in context: http://mono.1490590.n4.nabble.com/ASP-net-and-Licensing-tp4664729.html Sent from the Mono - General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list
[Mono-list] Raspberry for the C# program
Dear Friends, We have a application where we have to capture some data from the field and process. So, we decided to use Raspberry which is on Linux. For processing we want to use C# program.I came to know that with MONO the C# program can run on Linux OS. Is it a good idea or do you suggest some new solution. cheers Jagroop -- View this message in context: http://mono.1490590.n4.nabble.com/Raspberry-for-the-C-program-tp4664730.html Sent from the Mono - General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list
Re: [Mono-list] Raspberry for the C# program
Hi Jagroop. There are many solutions, I'm on the process of creating a framework to manipulate the Raspberry hardware from C#, you can find it at https://github.com/gusmanb/RaspiSharp It's the starting point and i'm evolving it a lot, so expect breaking changes in near future. To install mono on the Rpi just execute this: pi@raspberrypi ~ $ *sudo apt-get update* pi@raspberrypi ~ $ *sudo apt-get install mono-complete* It will install the 3.2.8 version which includes hardware floating point functions and works really well. After that you have a fully functional mono installation, to run any .net program execute sudo mono (yourexename) Cheers. 2014-11-20 12:26 GMT+01:00 jagroop77 jagr...@promatics.co.in: Dear Friends, We have a application where we have to capture some data from the field and process. So, we decided to use Raspberry which is on Linux. For processing we want to use C# program.I came to know that with MONO the C# program can run on Linux OS. Is it a good idea or do you suggest some new solution. cheers Jagroop -- View this message in context: http://mono.1490590.n4.nabble.com/Raspberry-for-the-C-program-tp4664730.html Sent from the Mono - General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list
Re: [Mono-list] Raspberry for the C# program
Mono is very, very good on Linux, I am using it as my main platform for personal and freelance projects. There are some issues - it is not 100% perfect but it is very, very good and reasonably stable. Unfortunately I am stuck with Windows for corporate development for the foreseeable future but I hope that will change at some point :) On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 11:46 AM, Agustin Gimenez geni...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Jagroop. There are many solutions, I'm on the process of creating a framework to manipulate the Raspberry hardware from C#, you can find it at https://github.com/gusmanb/RaspiSharp It's the starting point and i'm evolving it a lot, so expect breaking changes in near future. To install mono on the Rpi just execute this: pi@raspberrypi ~ $ *sudo apt-get update* pi@raspberrypi ~ $ *sudo apt-get install mono-complete* It will install the 3.2.8 version which includes hardware floating point functions and works really well. After that you have a fully functional mono installation, to run any .net program execute sudo mono (yourexename) Cheers. 2014-11-20 12:26 GMT+01:00 jagroop77 jagr...@promatics.co.in: Dear Friends, We have a application where we have to capture some data from the field and process. So, we decided to use Raspberry which is on Linux. For processing we want to use C# program.I came to know that with MONO the C# program can run on Linux OS. Is it a good idea or do you suggest some new solution. cheers Jagroop -- View this message in context: http://mono.1490590.n4.nabble.com/Raspberry-for-the-C-program-tp4664730.html Sent from the Mono - General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list -- ** *w://* *t: 07508 215 459* ** ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list
Re: [Mono-list] ASP.net and Licensing
Great question, I would like to know that too. William Ivanski 2014-11-20 9:13 GMT-02:00 aleksit aleksi.tanska...@live.com: Hey What is licensing terms of ASP.net of mono ? Is they same than licenses of mono ? Can I do commercial software with it and if I can what kind of things I need to add with my project ? And what is the license terms if I host my project for customers ? Do I need to buy Xamarin license ? -- View this message in context: http://mono.1490590.n4.nabble.com/ASP-net-and-Licensing-tp4664729.html Sent from the Mono - General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list
Re: [Mono-list] Binding Cocoa examples?
Where is the BaseType attribute defined? Xamarin Studio doesn't seem to include it in either Mono or Xamarin Mac versions. The only binding template I see is for iOS. Thanks, Michael McGlothlin Sent from my iPhone On Nov 19, 2014, at 7:02 PM, Miguel de Icaza mig...@xamarin.com wrote: hey, You can see it here: http://github.com/mono/monomac Go to src/appkit.cs to see the binding for NSView. On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 1:28 PM, Michael McGlothlin mike.mcgloth...@gmail.com wrote: I'm trying to figure out how to bind to obj-c and c and for my first exercise I decided to bind to Apple's ScreenSaverView and make a screensaver. I'm trying to do this with Xamarin Studio and their Sharpie app but not having much luck. Where can I look to see Mono's actual binding to classes such as NSView? What I'd actually do I mean and not something generated. Thanks, Michael McGlothlin Sent from my iPhone ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list
Re: [Mono-list] ASP.net and Licensing
Does this not cover it? https://github.com/mono/mono/blob/master/LICENSE (Note, I'm not a legal expert so if you're concerned in anyway, get you lawyer to look into it) You've got to look at the individual libraries you're using though. If they are Mono libraries, chances are they are MIT/X11, so you're safe, and we are more open that the microsoft licencing. Give that it's a very, very (add 20 or so more verys there) common framework to build websites, I'd say that yes you can build a piece of commercial software with it. That said, you would need to be more specific. Using the libraries in .NET or mono should not be a problem in terms of building a commercial website without any acknowledgement in my opinion. I've built major websites using .NET and the ASP.NET framework (WebForms and MVC), and our legal department never raised an eyebrow. That said, is it not always nice to acknowledge people's hard work and give credit where it's due? Mono is NOT Xamarin. Xamarin do something very specific with Mobile. Xamarin's offerings use Mono under the hood, and therefore they commit any changes/enhancements back to the mono project. Anything on GitHub is not owned by Xamarin (as I understand it, and check the licences if you're unsure), therefore they cannot (nor would they want to) force you to buy a licence to use them. Hope that helps Martin On 20 November 2014 16:00, William Ivanski william.ivan...@gmail.com wrote: Great question, I would like to know that too. William Ivanski 2014-11-20 9:13 GMT-02:00 aleksit aleksi.tanska...@live.com: Hey What is licensing terms of ASP.net of mono ? Is they same than licenses of mono ? Can I do commercial software with it and if I can what kind of things I need to add with my project ? And what is the license terms if I host my project for customers ? Do I need to buy Xamarin license ? -- View this message in context: http://mono.1490590.n4.nabble.com/ASP-net-and-Licensing-tp4664729.html Sent from the Mono - General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list
Re: [Mono-list] ASP.net and Licensing
I think Martin is right. Reading mono license, at first glance is possible to see that everybody can use mono to develop, build and host ASP.NET websites (WebForms or MVC) for commercial purposes. I already developed some ASP.NET applications and run then on mono for personal and freelance purposes. But I'm considering buying one Xamarin license for two reasons: I want to start to develop applications for Android, and I'm looking for a way to retribute to the mono project. I know that contributing to Xamarin, Xamarin people would have more resources to work on mono improve, fix bugs and so on. William Ivanski 2014-11-20 14:14 GMT-02:00 Martin Thwaites monofo...@my2cents.co.uk: Does this not cover it? https://github.com/mono/mono/blob/master/LICENSE (Note, I'm not a legal expert so if you're concerned in anyway, get you lawyer to look into it) You've got to look at the individual libraries you're using though. If they are Mono libraries, chances are they are MIT/X11, so you're safe, and we are more open that the microsoft licencing. Give that it's a very, very (add 20 or so more verys there) common framework to build websites, I'd say that yes you can build a piece of commercial software with it. That said, you would need to be more specific. Using the libraries in .NET or mono should not be a problem in terms of building a commercial website without any acknowledgement in my opinion. I've built major websites using .NET and the ASP.NET framework (WebForms and MVC), and our legal department never raised an eyebrow. That said, is it not always nice to acknowledge people's hard work and give credit where it's due? Mono is NOT Xamarin. Xamarin do something very specific with Mobile. Xamarin's offerings use Mono under the hood, and therefore they commit any changes/enhancements back to the mono project. Anything on GitHub is not owned by Xamarin (as I understand it, and check the licences if you're unsure), therefore they cannot (nor would they want to) force you to buy a licence to use them. Hope that helps Martin On 20 November 2014 16:00, William Ivanski william.ivan...@gmail.com wrote: Great question, I would like to know that too. William Ivanski 2014-11-20 9:13 GMT-02:00 aleksit aleksi.tanska...@live.com: Hey What is licensing terms of ASP.net of mono ? Is they same than licenses of mono ? Can I do commercial software with it and if I can what kind of things I need to add with my project ? And what is the license terms if I host my project for customers ? Do I need to buy Xamarin license ? -- View this message in context: http://mono.1490590.n4.nabble.com/ASP-net-and-Licensing-tp4664729.html Sent from the Mono - General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list
Re: [Mono-list] ASP.net and Licensing
From: mono-list-boun...@lists.ximian.com [mailto:mono-list- boun...@lists.ximian.com] On Behalf Of aleksit Hey What is licensing terms of ASP.net of mono ? Is they same than licenses of mono ? Can I do commercial software with it and if I can what kind of things I need to add with my project ? And what is the license terms if I host my project for customers ? Do I need to buy Xamarin license ? You only need to be concerned about the license terms if you plan on redistributing it. But you're probably just writing an application that RUNS on ASP.Net. So the consumer would install ASP.Net, and then download your application separately, and then run your application on it - meaning - you're not redistributing ASP.Net and therefore don't need to worry about its license terms. ASP.Net is purely mono, and not related to Xamarin. ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list
