Re: [Mono-list] MonoDroid/MonoTouch for FLOSS/hobby development?
I wonder if Microsoft announcing that c# for windows phone 7 development will be free with have any impact. Previously Windows Mobile development required visual studio pro which was quite pricey. Problems with GPL code in the app store and the closed nature of the iphone ecosystem meant a paid MonoTouch model makes sense. For the open android system, with no GPL restrictions built on the open source linux kernel and ecosystem a paid model does not make as much sense. It does make sense for companies trying to leverage existing code bases, Compared to the cost of rewriting these in java the MonoDroid license is cheap. For people not trying to make money, for people just experimenting in their own time, or people trying to produce free and open source software in order to solve a problem or give back to the community then a paid MonoDroid is not really an option. It seems to me that these are two quite different users with different needs. A free license for use in non commercial applications or projects or a separate product for FOSS development would be nice. But as far as I can tell a pricing structure has not yet been officially announced, So I guess we just have to sit back and wait to see what happens. Cheers, Daniel Hughes On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 8:55 AM, Chris Patti cpa...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 4:27 PM, Daniel Hughes tramps...@gmail.com wrote: I to was hoping to create a few open source apps however the $399 would create a large barrier to contributions. Are there any plans for an alternative licence or product for open source and hobbyist development. Cheers, Daniel Hughes Can't speak for them, but thus far I have heard zero from the MonoTouch crowd about hobby licensing. Honestly, they have a very hot product in a very VERY hot space (mobile app development) so I can't really blame them, much as I too would love to get my hands on the bits :) -Chris -- Christopher Patti - Geek At Large | GTalk: cpa...@gmail.com | AIM: chrisfeohpatti | P: (260) 54PATTI Technology challenges art, art inspires technology. - John Lasseter, Pixar ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list
Re: [Mono-list] MonoDroid/MonoTouch for FLOSS/hobby development?
On 10/05/2010 07:14 AM, Daniel Hughes wrote: So I guess we just have to sit back and wait to see what happens. Especially considering the patent shitstorm that's been started against Android. :( Oddly enough, my Windows Mobile 6 phone is looking pretty good right about now... I can write managed apps for free and there is no restrictive OS. Unfortunately it is a crashy OS... oh well. I digress. -- Chris Howie http://www.chrishowie.com http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Crazycomputers If you correspond with me on a regular basis, please read this document: http://www.chrishowie.com/email-preferences/ PGP fingerprint: 2B7A B280 8B12 21CC 260A DF65 6FCE 505A CF83 38F5 IMPORTANT INFORMATION/DISCLAIMER This document should be read only by those persons to whom it is addressed. If you have received this message it was obviously addressed to you and therefore you can read it. Additionally, by sending an email to ANY of my addresses or to ANY mailing lists to which I am subscribed, whether intentionally or accidentally, you are agreeing that I am the intended recipient, and that I may do whatever I wish with the contents of any message received from you, unless a pre-existing agreement prohibits me from so doing. This overrides any disclaimer or statement of confidentiality that may be included on your message. ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list
Re: [Mono-list] MonoDroid/MonoTouch for FLOSS/hobby development?
On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 4:27 PM, Daniel Hughes tramps...@gmail.com wrote: I to was hoping to create a few open source apps however the $399 would create a large barrier to contributions. Are there any plans for an alternative licence or product for open source and hobbyist development. Cheers, Daniel Hughes Can't speak for them, but thus far I have heard zero from the MonoTouch crowd about hobby licensing. Honestly, they have a very hot product in a very VERY hot space (mobile app development) so I can't really blame them, much as I too would love to get my hands on the bits :) -Chris -- Christopher Patti - Geek At Large | GTalk: cpa...@gmail.com | AIM: chrisfeohpatti | P: (260) 54PATTI Technology challenges art, art inspires technology. - John Lasseter, Pixar ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list
Re: [Mono-list] MonoDroid/MonoTouch for FLOSS/hobby development?
I to was hoping to create a few open source apps however the $399 would create a large barrier to contributions. Are there any plans for an alternative licence or product for open source and hobbyist development. Cheers, Daniel Hughes On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 3:38 AM, Christopher David Howie m...@chrishowie.com wrote: I'm interested in using the MonoDroid/MonoTouch technologies, specifically MonoDroid, for developing F/LOSS software. However, with the current pricing model of MonoTouch ($399/year for one developer) this is incredibly cost-prohibitive. As the Android platform is more open, are there any plans to make MonoDroid available for free or at a substantially reduced cost for hobbyist/FLOSS developers? I'm not paying 400 bucks so I can write stuff for fun on my own time. -- Chris Howie http://www.chrishowie.com http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Crazycomputers If you correspond with me on a regular basis, please read this document: http://www.chrishowie.com/email-preferences/ PGP fingerprint: 2B7A B280 8B12 21CC 260A DF65 6FCE 505A CF83 38F5 IMPORTANT INFORMATION/DISCLAIMER This document should be read only by those persons to whom it is addressed. If you have received this message it was obviously addressed to you and therefore you can read it. Additionally, by sending an email to ANY of my addresses or to ANY mailing lists to which I am subscribed, whether intentionally or accidentally, you are agreeing that I am the intended recipient, and that I may do whatever I wish with the contents of any message received from you, unless a pre-existing agreement prohibits me from so doing. This overrides any disclaimer or statement of confidentiality that may be included on your message. ___ Mono-list maillist - mono-l...@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list
Re: [Mono-list] MonoDroid/MonoTouch for FLOSS/hobby development?
I am getting a android phone (Samsung Galaxy S cap.) hopefully, to also toy with it (mono droid) I don't have an issue myself paying the 400 beans if I use it anyway commercially (i.e. generate a comercial product, or even a fee one tied to a commercial project), but to just play with it, learn it, rather not have to drop the 400 at that time. Perhaps at a min. a crippled free version to build non-commercial apps? Crippled by, max size of executable? or a tonne of other ways. Obviously Novell with benifit by maximum use of it in a completely non-commericial way as possible, there by ringing up max. sales when these convert to commercial uses. tl On Mon, 4 Oct 2010 09:27:30 +1300 Daniel Hughes tramps...@gmail.com wrote: I to was hoping to create a few open source apps however the $399 would create a large barrier to contributions. Are there any plans for an alternative licence or product for open source and hobbyist development. Cheers, Daniel Hughes On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 3:38 AM, Christopher David Howie m...@chrishowie.com wrote: I'm interested in using the MonoDroid/MonoTouch technologies, specifically MonoDroid, for developing F/LOSS software. However, with the current pricing model of MonoTouch ($399/year for one developer) this is incredibly cost-prohibitive. As the Android platform is more open, are there any plans to make MonoDroid available for free or at a substantially reduced cost for hobbyist/FLOSS developers? I'm not paying 400 bucks so I can write stuff for fun on my own time. -- Chris Howie http://www.chrishowie.com http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Crazycomputers If you correspond with me on a regular basis, please read this document: http://www.chrishowie.com/email-preferences/ PGP fingerprint: 2B7A B280 8B12 21CC 260A DF65 6FCE 505A CF83 38F5 IMPORTANT INFORMATION/DISCLAIMER This document should be read only by those persons to whom it is addressed. If you have received this message it was obviously addressed to you and therefore you can read it. Additionally, by sending an email to ANY of my addresses or to ANY mailing lists to which I am subscribed, whether intentionally or accidentally, you are agreeing that I am the intended recipient, and that I may do whatever I wish with the contents of any message received from you, unless a pre-existing agreement prohibits me from so doing. This overrides any disclaimer or statement of confidentiality that may be included on your message. ___ Mono-list maillist - mono-l...@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list -- ted leslie tles...@tcn.net ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list
[Mono-list] MonoDroid/MonoTouch for FLOSS/hobby development?
I'm interested in using the MonoDroid/MonoTouch technologies, specifically MonoDroid, for developing F/LOSS software. However, with the current pricing model of MonoTouch ($399/year for one developer) this is incredibly cost-prohibitive. As the Android platform is more open, are there any plans to make MonoDroid available for free or at a substantially reduced cost for hobbyist/FLOSS developers? I'm not paying 400 bucks so I can write stuff for fun on my own time. -- Chris Howie http://www.chrishowie.com http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Crazycomputers If you correspond with me on a regular basis, please read this document: http://www.chrishowie.com/email-preferences/ PGP fingerprint: 2B7A B280 8B12 21CC 260A DF65 6FCE 505A CF83 38F5 IMPORTANT INFORMATION/DISCLAIMER This document should be read only by those persons to whom it is addressed. If you have received this message it was obviously addressed to you and therefore you can read it. Additionally, by sending an email to ANY of my addresses or to ANY mailing lists to which I am subscribed, whether intentionally or accidentally, you are agreeing that I am the intended recipient, and that I may do whatever I wish with the contents of any message received from you, unless a pre-existing agreement prohibits me from so doing. This overrides any disclaimer or statement of confidentiality that may be included on your message. ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list
