Re: [Monotone-devel] Re: Monotone Mini Summit: 2009-01-18 - 2009-01-19

2008-12-16 Thread Matthew Nicholson

Thomas Keller wrote:

Hi Matthew!

At first thanks for taking the initiative to organize the Mini Summit!

You wrote:

I have started a wiki page[1] with these ideas.  Feel free to edit that
page, and please also continue to discuss ideas on the mailing list.  I
would like to have a solid list of things to work on by January 12th,
and then flesh those out for a week until the 17th so that we have a
solid agenda for our virtual summit.

[1] http://mtn-wiki.1erlei.de/wiki/MtnSummit/2009


What I'd like to see even more than another list of wanted features are
a couple of people who put their names here on the list or on this wiki
page saying yes, I want to _work_ on this topic and I think I _can_ do it!
If this does not happen, I'm afraid this gets another wishlist which
won't be implemented anytime soon.



Great idea.  I also think we need some kind of guide to monotone 
development (which we may already have).  This guide would contain 
descriptions of the macros we use and the principles that monotone is 
developed by.


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Re: [Monotone-devel] Re: Monotone Mini Summit: 2009-01-18 - 2009-01-19

2008-12-16 Thread Thomas Keller
Matthew Nicholson schrieb:
 What I'd like to see even more than another list of wanted features are
 a couple of people who put their names here on the list or on this wiki
 page saying yes, I want to _work_ on this topic and I think I _can_
 do it!
 If this does not happen, I'm afraid this gets another wishlist which
 won't be implemented anytime soon.

 
 Great idea.  I also think we need some kind of guide to monotone
 development (which we may already have).  This guide would contain
 descriptions of the macros we use and the principles that monotone is
 developed by.

Nah, I really spoke about the aforementioned wiki page. You're
describing our HACKING file which is already present ;)

However, it might be nice to put this into the wiki so it can be
formatted nicely and is easier accessible.

Thomas.

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[Monotone-devel] sutures [Re: Time for a release]

2008-12-16 Thread Pavel Cahyna
Hello,

On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 09:22:10AM -0500, Stephen Leake wrote:
  A few things have to happen before, though:
 
  * Had anybody beside the implementor taken a deeper look and tried the
  new mtn conflicts functionality? Is this ready to ship as is?
 
 not to my knowledge; one person used it and aggreed it was an
 improvement over the current conflict resolution process (which is
 still there).

What is the status of the planned file sutures? Are they related to the
new conflicts functionality? I am asking mainly because they could fix a
really annoying problem with pluck IIUC: that if you pluck a revision
which introduces a file, monotone does not recognize it as the same file
as the original one and subsequent pluck which modify this file will fail.
See http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/monotone-devel/2007-08/msg00159.html

Pavel


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[Monotone-devel] interface versions, again

2008-12-16 Thread Thomas Keller

Hi all!

This topic nags me from time to time and it has bitten me again during
my preparations for 0.42: Proper interface version numbering. So for
this release I've seen all kinds of wrong interface numbers - in code
and in documentation - which ranged from 7.1 to 8.2.

7.1 is obviously wrong since 0.41 already shipped with 8.0 and this was
probably just a leftover from an earlier change in a branch. Problematic
is, however, to decide if a version number has to be raised or not and
moreover, if it has already been raised _after_ the last release. Things
like rolling over version numbers suddenly become important, i.e. if
change X requires a major bump from 8.0 to 9.0, its no longer required
to add a minor bump from 9.0 to 9.1 for a new feature.

So, to make a long story short I propose that interface versions are
_not_ changed by individual developers up until the next release and
that the release manager rather takes care of the numbering, just
because he gets the ultimative overview what has been added / changed
when he writes the NEWS file.

As a little reminder (which I may fill into the release checklist some
time) the interface number has to be added / changed in at least these
places:

* cmd_automate.cc (static string 'interface_version')
* monotone.texi (where various commands may reference it in added in
or changes sections)
* the monotone wiki under http://monotone.ca/wiki/AutomateVersions/,
alongside with new / updated / changed commands for the particular version

Thomas.

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Re: [Monotone-devel] Time for a release

2008-12-16 Thread Thomas Keller
Thomas Keller schrieb:
 Its been a while already since 0.41 and I'd like to prepare a new
 release - probably the last one for 2008 ;)
 [...]
 * I've noticed a couple of fixes and changes on IRC which haven't made
 it into the NEWS file yet. Would the developers who're now thinking they
 could be meant please be so kind and add them? :)

I've updated the NEWS file with anything which I found noteworthy since
0.41. Please re-read and correct possible spelling / grammar / context
errors, in particular the sections about the improvements / bugfixes
from Timothy (since I may not have grasp the real indications / outcome
here).

Thanks,
Thomas.

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