[MOPO] Fwd: [MOPO] Sellers NOT volunteering to send out Join MOPO flyers!

[Kathryn Klauer]

JR,

I'd be more than happy to put Join MOPO AND Join 
MoviePosterBid flyers in my shipments.

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JR,

I'd be more than happy to put Join MOPO AND Join 
MoviePosterBid flyers in my shipments.

Kathy :)
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Re: [MOPO] Sellers NOT volunteering to send out Join MOPO flyers!

[Andrija Beker]

Hello MOPO,Itis OK for me to send "Join MOPO" flyersin myshipments. Is that flyer anywhere where I can download it, or I need to make one?Regards,  Andrija 
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Re: [MOPO] Fwd: [MOPO] Sellers NOT volunteering to send out Join MOPO flyers!

[Richard Halegua Comic Art]

I'll be happy to send you MPB flyers kathy.. how many do you need in a month?

Rich=


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JR,

I'd be more than happy to put Join MOPO AND Join MoviePosterBid 
flyers in my shipments.


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I'd be more than happy to put Join MOPO AND Join MoviePosterBid 
flyers in my shipments.


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Re: [MOPO] Sellers NOT volunteering to send out Join MOPO flyers!

[Ron Wisberg]

Well ever since joining MOPO and re-enjoying why I collected movie posters in the first place I've considered selling off a large portion of my collection, or perhaps consigning it. The jury isn't hung, but then again I'm Irish, when referring to hung someone should either be dead or likely embarassed. I've even considered true FS posts. Yes, direct to MOPO deals. Not someone stating FS when it is really FA, and no, having all of your auctions include Buy it Nows is not an FS. I guess really as a newbie to selling I'm a little slow and reluctant to dive into any site, and if I'm surrounded by collectors, maybe a post of a few dozen reasonably priced posters would be ok.Of course, I will include good photos and descriptions, to answer that argument.However, to offer a flyer to my buyer(s)to joinMOPO, well, it seems awfully over-the-top in a way since this is where
 I've found them.I did puruse the NSFGE site many talk about. Honestly, I found it regularly way off topic (not even film related), and ruled by one or two mouthy individuals, one that seemed to prefer any topic that related to the flesh than to one that related to a poster that I was most turned off.So I'm working on an old-fashioned Movie Collector's World styled listing that has good posters at reasonable prices, and with pictures and descriptions. With any success there will likely be many more to follow. 
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Re: [MOPO] is this FAIR TO GOOD ???

[JR]

Claude and Sean,

urk... yeah... I did say plastic, didn't I? But of course as Sean said I 
reallymeant "Mylar" or whatever they are calling that new replacement 
substance they have for Mylar now. Obviously you use inert sleeves that aren't 
going to react to your paper in any way and won't stick to it under any 
circumstances. My point about putting them in a sleeve when storing flat was to 
eliminate paper-to-paper contact between the layers of posters. You could simply 
insert acid-free paper as buffers between each poster and forget about the 
sleeve. But I would only do this if you had a water-proof cabinet for storing 
the posters... otherwise moisture could become an issue... no so much from the 
air unless you're living in a very humid house, but from accidental spills or 
roof-leaks or something. The cost of the Mylar sleeves is so small that they 
make good insurance -- and they make handling your posters and going through the 
stacks much easier and safer for the posters as well.

I completely agree that sunlight is a poster's worst enemy, but acid in the 
paper of older posters comes in a close second -- particularly when there is 
on-going paper-to-paper compression and contact, as happens when posters are 
store folded.

-- JR
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I hope JR didnt actually recommend PLASTIC sleeves. 
Im sure he knows that plastic is not inert nor archivally safe and the 
oils in it will actually help to contribute to a posters demise in the long 
run.
Certainly he 
recommended Mylar-type sleeves for anyone who wishes to store their posters in 
sleeves.

Sean






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JR

Someone mentioned a 
while ago that it is best to store posters flat and not in the plastic 
sleeves. You recommend them. Have you had any stored a long time 
either way? 
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Re: [MOPO] Sellers NOT volunteering to send out Join MOPO flyers!

[Phil Edwards Cinemarts]

Ron - I think posting direct FS to MOPO is a good idea, nothing wrong 
with it at all.
So long as posts are labeled as Scott has requested as FA, FS, etc, then 
why not?
It's direct target audience selling and if Scott as list owner doesn't 
have a problem with it then I don't see why anyone else would. Buying, 
selling and trading movie posters is a common denominator, isn't it?


You can also post direct FS to the FS/FA section on NSFGE as well.

Both Ari and myself have no problem with people who post only in the 
FS/FA section of NSFGE and don't contribute otherwise. Like any such 
forums it's there for people to use.
It also has the benefit of you being able to post an image itself rather 
than a link to an image
and there are plenty of free pic hosting services such as Photobucket to 
use for that. There are several dealers who regularly offer material, or 
links to their auctions, BINs and website updates

and never say boo otherwise.

I don't think Ari and I have even ever asked each other, uh, why don't 
they post comments as well?


Both MPF and MPC have FS/FA sections to. I doubt either Andy or Erich 
have any strict rules about requirements to post in the general chat 
forums to offer your items for sale.


All a pretty healthy way to do business, I'd say.

I don't quite understand why being a MOPO member requires any sort of 
commitment to either post to the forum itself, or include MOPO fliers or 
MPB fliers in with sales items to demonstrate some sort of loyalty or 
commitment... to what, exactly?


If people want to post, they post. If they don't, they don't. If they 
want to include fliers or info for

MOPO or MPB they do or they don't.

Keeping a list of who does what actually strikes me as a bit creepy, 
frankly, and is likely to cause people to leave rather than join at all. 
But I know JR has a fairly sardonic sense of humour, so I'm assuming his 
comment there was an example of that rather than a serious statement of 
intent.


Phil Edwards




Ron Wisberg wrote:
Well ever since joining MOPO and re-enjoying why I collected movie 
posters in the first place I've considered selling off a large portion 
of my collection, or perhaps consigning it. The jury isn't hung, but 
then again I'm Irish, when referring to hung someone should either be 
dead or likely embarassed.
 
I've even considered true FS posts. Yes, direct to MOPO deals. Not 
someone stating FS when it is really FA, and no, having all of your 
auctions include Buy it Nows is not an FS. I guess really as a newbie 
to selling I'm a little slow and reluctant to dive into any site, and 
if I'm surrounded by collectors, maybe a post of a few dozen 
reasonably priced posters would be ok.
 
Of course, I will include good photos and descriptions, to answer that 
argument.
 
However, to offer a flyer to my buyer(s) to join MOPO, well, it seems 
awfully over-the-top in a way since this is where I've found them.
 
I did puruse the NSFGE site many talk about. Honestly, I found it 
regularly way off topic (not even film related), and ruled by one or 
two mouthy individuals, one that seemed to prefer any topic that 
related to the flesh than to one that related to a poster that I was 
most turned off.
 
So I'm working on an old-fashioned Movie Collector's World styled 
listing that has good posters at reasonable prices, and with pictures 
and descriptions. With any success there will likely be many more to 
follow.



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Re: [MOPO] Sellers NOT volunteering to send out Join MOPO flyers!

[JR]

Ron and Phil,
 
Well, yeah, if someone is only selling to MOPO members with genuine FS-type 
posts... and not selling to other movie poster collectors through other venues 
like an auction site or a retail web site, then naturally there would be no 
point in sending join MOPO flyers out with those shipments if the only people 
you were ever shipping to were already MOPO members.
 
As for Phil being bewildered about this idea of sending out flyers... what, 
haven't you been paying attention, Phil? Bruce sent this list an 
out-of-the-blue question last week wondering about Is membership in MOPO 
declining?  Now, he was either being snide or genuinely concerned. Let's 
assume the later, as most people did, which lead to quite a few people 
expressing concern about the fact that we're down from a high of about 500 
members a year ago to about 400 now. It was pointed out that sellers who 
regularly list their items for sale on this list are the ones with the most to 
lose from a declining membership.
 
It was then suggested that rather than fiddle with the MOPO format... or 
require people to post in order to maintain membership (a real bad idea)... 
that the best thing would be to have a membership drive and the most effective 
way to bring in some new members would be for the sellers to send out join 
MOPO flyers with every poster they ship. To me, this seems like one of those 
really good ideas that is a no-brainer and while there is certainly no official 
requirement that sellers do this, it seems like a good thing to do. But we both 
know that as a group, sellers are a quiescent, status-quo bunch, and that if 
nobody pushes them, this will end up being just another good idea that never 
gets implemented. So I'm doing a bit of pushing for the idea to see if we can't 
get most of the sellers who regularly advertise their wares on MOPO to give 
back a little and do this easy, simple, cheap thing to bring in some new 
members. 
 
But, in my usual curmudgeonly fashion, I couldn't help commenting that while 
this was a great idea, that I doubted many of the sellers who regularly post FA 
messages to MOPO would bother. So far they have proven me correct, with only a 
couple of sellers publicly stating they will include flyers in their shipments. 
I'm keeping a list of those who continue to advertise here won't publicly 
commit to tucking a flyer into their packages simply as means of keeping track 
-- so I can eventually provide the inquiring minds of the public with a 
statistical analysis (one that names names merely in the interests of accuracy, 
you understand) which will prove my original contention -- that lots of sellers 
are perfectly willing to use this list to advertise on, but most of them can't 
be bothered to even do something this simple and easy to improve it.
 
I can be proven wrong in this contention very easily. I doubt that I will be, 
however.
 
Personally, I don't think the number of members on MOPO matters at all -- but 
if the sellers are concerned about declining membership then there is 
something simple the sellers can do about it.
 
-- JR
 

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From: Phil Edwards Cinemarts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 4:26
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Sellers NOT volunteering to send out Join MOPO flyers!


 Ron - I think posting direct FS to MOPO is a good idea, nothing wrong 
 with it at all.
 So long as posts are labeled as Scott has requested as FA, FS, etc, then 
 why not?
 It's direct target audience selling and if Scott as list owner doesn't 
 have a problem with it then I don't see why anyone else would. Buying, 
 selling and trading movie posters is a common denominator, isn't it?
 
 You can also post direct FS to the FS/FA section on NSFGE as well.
 
 Both Ari and myself have no problem with people who post only in the 
 FS/FA section of NSFGE and don't contribute otherwise. Like any such 
 forums it's there for people to use.
 It also has the benefit of you being able to post an image itself rather 
 than a link to an image
 and there are plenty of free pic hosting services such as Photobucket to 
 use for that. There are several dealers who regularly offer material, or 
 links to their auctions, BINs and website updates
 and never say boo otherwise.
 
 I don't think Ari and I have even ever asked each other, uh, why don't 
 they post comments as well?
 
 Both MPF and MPC have FS/FA sections to. I doubt either Andy or Erich 
 have any strict rules about requirements to post in the general chat 
 forums to offer your items for sale.
 
 All a pretty healthy way to do business, I'd say.
 
 I don't quite understand why being a MOPO member requires any sort of 
 commitment to either post to the forum itself, or include MOPO fliers or 
 MPB fliers in with sales items to demonstrate some sort of loyalty or 
 commitment... to what, exactly?
 
 If people want to post, they post. If they don't, they don't. If they 
 want to 

Re: [MOPO] FS FA US Belgium posters

[allen day]

Howdy y'all,

I'm changing the format of this meager listing.

US 1sh King Creole
Belgium Niagara
Belgium Lolita
Belgium Barbarella

Link below or eBay sellers name: posters5999

http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZposters5999QQhtZ-1

allenday

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Re: [MOPO] Sellers NOT volunteering to send out Join MOPO flyers!

[Claude Litton]

JR

You have made one assumption and that is---that all sellers 
read MoPo posts. I have been on MoPo a very long time and I think a good 
proportion of sellers only post their wares and do not read the posts. I 
suggest you poll all those sellers who post FA or FS and ask if they even know 
about the request. After all, isn't it the sellers who should be concerned 
about how many people see their ads? I am a collector and more interested 
in what people have to say about the hobby. I even block certain sellers 
because they never contribute anything anyway.

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[MOPO] Fwd: Re: [MOPO] Sellers NOT volunteering to send out Join MOPO flyers!

[allen day]

Could we also have a statistical analysis with the
sellers that do comply?

I would be interested in reviewing the standard
deviations as they apply to whatever time frames are
set for the analysis ... and while your pencil is
still sharp ... a cost / benefits analysis would also
be appreciated.

While all this info is being tabulated and properly
referenced, I'll review the Law of Diminishing
Returns.

*** OR 

Could we just ask 'ol BH for a correction /
confirmation of his statement. Maybe he was referring
to his own email club and got things mixed up.

And we can get back to a tastier issue du jour.

allenday

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Ron and Phil,
 
Well, yeah, if someone is only selling to MOPO members with genuine FS-type 
posts... and not selling to other movie poster collectors through other venues 
like an auction site or a retail web site, then naturally there would be no 
point in sending join MOPO flyers out with those shipments if the only people 
you were ever shipping to were already MOPO members.
 
As for Phil being bewildered about this idea of sending out flyers... what, 
haven't you been paying attention, Phil? Bruce sent this list an 
out-of-the-blue question last week wondering about Is membership in MOPO 
declining?  Now, he was either being snide or genuinely concerned. Let's 
assume the later, as most people did, which lead to quite a few people 
expressing concern about the fact that we're down from a high of about 500 
members a year ago to about 400 now. It was pointed out that sellers who 
regularly list their items for sale on this list are the ones with the most to 
lose from a declining membership.
 
It was then suggested that rather than fiddle with the MOPO format... or 
require people to post in order to maintain membership (a real bad idea)... 
that the best thing would be to have a membership drive and the most effective 
way to bring in some new members would be for the sellers to send out join 
MOPO flyers with every poster they ship. To me, this seems like one of those 
really good ideas that is a no-brainer and while there is certainly no official 
requirement that sellers do this, it seems like a good thing to do. But we both 
know that as a group, sellers are a quiescent, status-quo bunch, and that if 
nobody pushes them, this will end up being just another good idea that never 
gets implemented. So I'm doing a bit of pushing for the idea to see if we can't 
get most of the sellers who regularly advertise their wares on MOPO to give 
back a little and do this easy, simple, cheap thing to bring in some new 
members. 
 
But, in my usual curmudgeonly fashion, I couldn't help commenting that while 
this was a great idea, that I doubted many of the sellers who regularly post FA 
messages to MOPO would bother. So far they have proven me correct, with only a 
couple of sellers publicly stating they will include flyers in their shipments. 
I'm keeping a list of those who continue to advertise here won't publicly 
commit to tucking a flyer into their packages simply as means of keeping track 
-- so I can eventually provide the inquiring minds of the public with a 
statistical analysis (one that names names merely in the interests of accuracy, 
you understand) which will prove my original contention -- that lots of sellers 
are perfectly willing to use this list to advertise on, but most of them can't 
be bothered to even do something this simple and easy to improve it.
 
I can be proven wrong in this contention very easily. I doubt that I will be, 
however.
 
Personally, I don't think the number of members on MOPO matters at all -- but 
if the sellers are concerned about declining membership then there is 
something simple the sellers can do about it.
 
-- JR
 

- Original Message - 
From: Phil Edwards Cinemarts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 4:26
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Sellers NOT volunteering to send out Join MOPO flyers!


 Ron - I think posting direct FS to MOPO is a good idea, nothing wrong 
 with it at all.
 So long as posts are labeled as Scott has requested as FA, FS, etc, then 
 why not?
 It's direct target audience selling and if Scott as list owner doesn't 
 have a problem with it then I don't see why anyone else would. Buying, 
 selling and trading movie posters is 

[MOPO] WTB ----- TWO ONESHEETS

[Flixspix]

Good Friday Mopoer's

I am in need of extremely mint folded or 
preferablyrolled original release onesheet(s) for 
Spielberg's EMPIRE OF THE SUN


Also looking for a pristine on or off linen FUNNY 
FACE US onesheet original release. 

Thanks in advance




freeman fisher8601 west knoll drive #7west hollywood, 
ca90069
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Re: [MOPO] is this FAIR TO GOOD ?

[Bruce Hershenson]

I think the seller of the SUSPECT half sheet did a good job providing 
a very sharp image (and amazingly, he did not have to cut off part of 
the image due to his small scanner, etc). I'll even accept his fair 
to good, as this is very subjective (but personally I would much 
rather an example of this poster with no borders at all, or even 
waterstained throughout, as those are far more fix-able than these defects).


But I think he falls short of the mark with his The poster is in 
good condition with a bit of wear and tear  some fold separation 
going on. That is ludicrous at best, and offensive at worst. Did he 
find  Mr. Magoo and have him condition grade this poster?


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Re: [MOPO] Two-sheets are NOT 40 x 60s

[Tom A. Pennock]

Hi Bruce:

Now that I know that Jon's term is not correct and a 40" x 60" is 
just that, a 40" x 60". The real question is "Where Can I Get a Towering Inferno 
MINT 40" x 60"? That's the question.

All The Best,

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Re: [MOPO] Two-sheets are NOT 40 x 60s

[moes]

The worlds leading authority 0n 40x60s states next to none survived before
1950. I have a 1949 40x60 currently for sale on ebay along with several 3
sheets and lobby sets strarting at $9.99 with no reserve. You can view these
by going to http://stores.ebay.com/MOES-MOVIE-MADNESS_W0QQdptZ0QQsclZ2QQtZkm
Thanks Moe
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 I have long considered myself to be the world's leading authority on
 two-sheets, and after reading what was posted here, I am 100% sure I am
right.

 Forty By Sixties are NOT two-sheets. Forty By Sixties are sometimes
 printed on thinner paper, sometimes they were folded before being
 sent to the theaters, and in very rare cases they measured SLIGHTLY
 less than 40 x 60.

 Forty By Sixties were offered in pressbooks starting in the early
 1930s, yet next to none survive from before 1950. Why? At that time
 they were almost always $2.50 or so at a time when one-sheets were 10
 cents or 15 cents, and three-sheets were around 30 cents, so I bet
 only the largest theaters splurged on them.

 What are two-sheets? These were solely made by tiny studios, and
 all the ones I have seen date from the 1940s and 1950s, and are from
 either sexploitation, exploitation, or the lowest budget B-westerns.
 They were printed on two one-sheet pieces, each measuring 27 x 41,
 and, exactly like a three-sheet, the two pieces overlap. Some I have
 seen are stamped two-sheet on the back.

 I have NEVER seen a 40 x 60 in two pieces, and I have never seen a
 two-sheet that was in one piece, so that can be an easy way to
 determine which kind of poster it is.

 But please NEVER call a 40 x 60 a two-sheet (although I have heard
 longtime theater owners refer to them that way, and also some newer
 theater owners refer to subway posters as two-sheets). I am in favor
 of calling a poster by its true name, EXCEPT in the case of
 half-sheets which were never ever called that by the studios (it
 was always displays or 22x28, but THAT name is so ingrained that
 I don't think we could get people to stop using it no matter what).

 Bruce

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[MOPO] FA- MORE POSTERS ADDED - SAT. MORNING PAPER AUCTION!

[Alan Adler]

MOPOS UNITE!

PAPER AUCTION ENDING ON EBAY THIS SATURDAY MORNING!

(AND SOME NEXT SATURDAY)

PLUS AN ARRAY OF AUTHENTIC MOVIE PROPS, RAY GUNS AND ORIGINAL 
PRODUCTION ART!


http://stores.ebay.com/Museum-Store-Gifts_MOVIE-POSTERS

LOBBY CARDS:

MARK OF ZORRO - SWORD FIGHT CARD
CAPT. VIDEO SERIAL CARDS
CAPT. AMERICA SERIAL CARDS
COMMANDO CODY SERIAL CARDS - AMAZING - MUST SEE THESE!

ADDED AN EXCELLENT SELECTION OF HALF SHEETS THIS WEEK WITH GREAT BUY IT 
NOW'S -


HALF SHEETS:

TRAPEZE
TARZAN'S GREATEST ADVENTURE
CARRIE - OLIVIER VERSION
GIRL IN BLACK STOCKINGS
COUNTRY MUSIC HOLIDAY
CRAZYLEGS
BHOWANI JUNCTION - AVA GARDNER CLASSIC
DESERT OF LOST MEN - STRIKING ALLAN ROCKY LANE B WESTERN
WRITTEN ON THE WIND - SIRK
PARDNERS
I'VE LIVED BEFORE
DEATH IN SMALL DOSES - PILL POPPING PARANOIA!
GIRLS IN THE NIGHT
TATTERED DRESS - BAD GIRL BEAUTY
RED RIVER RANGE - WAYNE R
KNIGHTS OF THE ROUND TABLE
SABRINA - GORGEOUS ORIGINAL PORTRAIT STYLE-B
THE MAZE - A AND B HALF SHEETS
BLUE GARDENIA - FRITZ LANG NOIR
MAN WHO KNEW TOO MUCH/ TROUBLE WITH HARRY COMBO
SHOULD A GIRL MARRY - 1939
YOUNG AND WILD
A STAR IS BORN R/54

+MORE

INSERTS:

HAUNTING
CONFIDENCE GIRL
DESK SET
TONY ROME - SEXY
ANDROCLES AND THE LION
BLACK ZOO
NIGHT TRAIN TO MEMPHIS
ARMY BOUND
GIRL RUSH
TEENAGE BAD GIRL
HUMAN DESIRE - FRITZ LANG NOIR
FARMER'S DAUGHTER - R
BUCCANEER
THIS PROPERTY IS CONDEMNED - NATALIE WOOD
101 DALMATIONS - R69
TALES OF TERROR
MAD WEDNESDAY - HAROLD LLOYD
KING AND I - ORIG
SOUND OF MUSIC - ORIG

+ MORE!

ONE SHEETS:

ORIGINAL 3 STOOGES AROUND THE WORLD IN A HAZE
RAINTREE COUNTY
12 ANGRY MEN
WILD ANGELS - ITALIAN - A KILLER POSTER)
ASPHALT JUNGLE - R54
THE BIG KNIFE - NOIR HOLLYWOOD (IN STORES)
BEHIND PRISON GATES - 1939
BUS STOP (REDUCED)
TORN CURTAIN - 3S

+ MORE!

+ BAD GIRL, TEEN, BLACK AND KUNG FU TITLES!
+ A GREAT SELECTION OF WARDROBE AND PROPS AND ORIGINAL ART!
+ GREAT STORE SELECTION AND LOTS OF BUY IT NOW PRICES!

PLUS - AS NOTED ABOVE - A NEW COLLECTION OF ORIGINAL FILM ART AND MOVIE 
PROPS FROM SOME GREAT TITLES!

TAKE A LOOK!

BID WITH CONFIDENCE AND ENJOY
COLLECTOR SINCE THE 1950'S-
DEALER SINCE THE 1970'S.

ALAN ADLER

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Re: [MOPO] Sellers NOT volunteering to send out Join MOPO flyers!

[Smith, Grey - 367]

Ready and willing, JR. I thought we were waiting on a PDF file of the flyer so 
that we could print it. 
Since we have a probably the best selection of rare material we have ever had, 
coming up in our November auction, thought that would be a great time to get 
those flyers put in with the catalogs going out! What do you think? 
We have a Style B War of the Worlds Half sheet and 
Oh well, here's is a small smattering of the goodies to be included in the 
November auction:

This Gun for Hire - One Sheet
Mickey's Pal Pluto (1933)- One Sheet
Mickey's Meller Drammer (1933) -One Sheet
Flash Gordon (1936)- One Sheet
Creature From The Black Lagoon- One Sheet
Wolf Man - Half Sheet and Insert
Bride of Frankenstein - Three Lobby Cards
Casablanca - Italian 2 Folio, Martinati Art
Invasion of the Saucer Men - Insert
Black Room - Lobby Card and Swedish One Sheet
Love Before Breakfast - Three Sheet
Forbidden Planet - One Sheet
Duck Soup - Style B Half Sheet
Wizard of Oz - Jumbo Window Card
The Thing - Insert
Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs- Insert
Sky Hawk - Insert
Her Gilded Cage (1922) -Swanson Insert
Stage Door - One Sheet
Laugh Clown Laugh - Title Card
Little Caesar - Lobby Card



Sincerely

Grey Smith 
Director Vintage Movie Poster Auctions 
Heritage Auction Galleries 
3500 Maple Avenue,  17th Floor 
Dallas, Texas 75219-3941 

800-872-6467 Ext. 367(24-Hour Voice Mail)
Local: 214-252-4367 Office 
Cellular: 214-668-6928 Cellular 
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-Original Message-
From: MoPo List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of JR
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 11:37 PM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Subject: [MOPO] Sellers NOT volunteering to send out Join MOPO flyers!


It's been 4 business days ... many sellers have put through FA and FS messages 
to this list since then... but aside from Andy and Rich, NONE of them have 
publicly said they would be willing to put join MOPO flyers in with their 
poster shipments!

Yes, I'm keeping track of their names and how many times they use MOPO to 
advertise their items over the next week or so. We haven't even heard from 
Bruce, who was the one who brought up the subject of the declining membership 
in MOPO over the weekend and the one who could obviously make the most impact 
by putting a flyer in each of the packages he ships. You'd think that sellers 
would be interested in doing a little something to increase MOPO membership... 
something that didn't cost them more than a couple of pennies... something that 
would also be to their benefit because more MOPO members means more people 
seeing their ads.

You'd think so, wouldn't you? But you'd be wrong.

Yes... I've got a little list... Fair warning.

-- JR

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[MOPO] MoPo Flyer

[Scott Burns]

My apologies for not being involved in the discussion of a MoPo flyer. My
home PC is still unavailable due to my office remodeling project. This has
limited by ability to participate on MoPo and to update the filmfan.com web
site. The only flyer I currently have is on my home PC hard drive which is
not accessible right now.

As soon as I get back to normal I will address this issue.

Thanks for your patience.

Scott
MoPo List Owner

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[MOPO] The Flyer

[channinglylethomson]

I'm fine with sending out a flyer advertising MOPO as well.  Now, 
somebody please let me know how to get the flyer.


Thanks, Channing Thomson in San Francisco

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Re: [MOPO] The Flyer

[Kenwick Cook]

Same here... once I get a new digital camera (my old one finally bit the 
dust) I should have more one-sheets to plug and would be HAPPY to send out 
flyers, but don't know anything about them.
FranKenwick
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[MOPO] Jon Warren - my newest version of C10 grading scale is posted on our site

[Jon Warren]

Hello all!I have been working on improving the clarity of the 10 point grading scale I introduced in the last edition of my Movie Poster Price Guide. The (continually evolving) grading document lives on the web at
www.icollectmovieposters.com/iguide/mp/grading/Please hold the burning in effigy if you disagree with my classifications. I appreciate constructive criticism, but would ask that all flames be held in thy tongue. It is a work in progress, and can benefit from helpful suggestions, but hateful degradations serve no constructive purpose.
I would appreciate feedback be sent directly to me at [EMAIL PROTECTED], or posted here. I have added an ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS paragraph, which serves as an opportunity to provide a valuable linkback to your site (from a PR4 page!) to those of you who make a considerable contribution to the effort.
I hope that the collecting community will participate in this open source effort to establish universal standards for movie memorabilia grading.Jon Warren-- Jon R. Warren
iGuide MediaChattanooga, TN 37409[EMAIL PROTECTED]  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]www.Todoogle.com
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Re: [MOPO] Sellers NOT volunteering to send out Join MOPO flyers!

[Dave Rosen]

I will gladly put MOPO flyers in with my shipments. Just tell me where to
get them/download them. I'd love to see the membership grow. It would be a
good thing for everyone, imho.

For the record, some of us have been without MOPO for over a week. We were
bumped off the list for some reason (something to do with greylisting of
servers). Scott just re-added me to the list in the last hour or so. Good to
be back on board. I missed (most of) you guys.

So you can take me off your shitlist, JR (if I was even on it).

Thanks,
Dave
Posteropolis
www.posteropolis.com



- Original Message - 
From: Smith, Grey - 367 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 11:32 AM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Sellers NOT volunteering to send out Join MOPO flyers!


 Ready and willing, JR. I thought we were waiting on a PDF file of the
flyer so that we could print it.
 Since we have a probably the best selection of rare material we have ever
had, coming up in our November auction, thought that would be a great time
to get those flyers put in with the catalogs going out! What do you think?
 We have a Style B War of the Worlds Half sheet and 
 Oh well, here's is a small smattering of the goodies to be included in the
November auction:

 This Gun for Hire - One Sheet
 Mickey's Pal Pluto (1933)- One Sheet
 Mickey's Meller Drammer (1933) -One Sheet
 Flash Gordon (1936)- One Sheet
 Creature From The Black Lagoon- One Sheet
 Wolf Man - Half Sheet and Insert
 Bride of Frankenstein - Three Lobby Cards
 Casablanca - Italian 2 Folio, Martinati Art
 Invasion of the Saucer Men - Insert
 Black Room - Lobby Card and Swedish One Sheet
 Love Before Breakfast - Three Sheet
 Forbidden Planet - One Sheet
 Duck Soup - Style B Half Sheet
 Wizard of Oz - Jumbo Window Card
 The Thing - Insert
 Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs- Insert
 Sky Hawk - Insert
 Her Gilded Cage (1922) -Swanson Insert
 Stage Door - One Sheet
 Laugh Clown Laugh - Title Card
 Little Caesar - Lobby Card



 Sincerely

 Grey Smith
 Director Vintage Movie Poster Auctions
 Heritage Auction Galleries
 3500 Maple Avenue,  17th Floor
 Dallas, Texas 75219-3941

 800-872-6467 Ext. 367(24-Hour Voice Mail)
 Local: 214-252-4367 Office
 Cellular: 214-668-6928 Cellular
 Fax 214-443-8479

 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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http://www.HeritageAuctions.com/MoviePosters



 -Original Message-
 From: MoPo List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of JR
 Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 11:37 PM
 To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
 Subject: [MOPO] Sellers NOT volunteering to send out Join MOPO flyers!


 It's been 4 business days ... many sellers have put through FA and FS
messages to this list since then... but aside from Andy and Rich, NONE of
them have publicly said they would be willing to put join MOPO flyers in
with their poster shipments!

 Yes, I'm keeping track of their names and how many times they use MOPO to
advertise their items over the next week or so. We haven't even heard from
Bruce, who was the one who brought up the subject of the declining
membership in MOPO over the weekend and the one who could obviously make
the most impact by putting a flyer in each of the packages he ships. You'd
think that sellers would be interested in doing a little something to
increase MOPO membership... something that didn't cost them more than a
couple of pennies... something that would also be to their benefit because
more MOPO members means more people seeing their ads.

 You'd think so, wouldn't you? But you'd be wrong.

 Yes... I've got a little list... Fair warning.

 -- JR

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[MOPO] what's all this about a flyer?

[David Lieberman]

Title: AOL Email





  
  

  
  
  I must have missed something.
  
  I don't read al these posts, can someone please fill me in?
  
  
  thanks,
  
  
  
  Dave
  
  
  CineMasterpieces.com
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Re: [MOPO] what's all this about a flyer?

[Kirby McDaniel]

JR would like all dealers to send out a flyer advertisingMovieArt Original Film Posters, Austin, TXK.On Sep 8, 2006, at 11:59 AM, David Lieberman wrote:    I must have missed something.     I don't read al these posts, can someone please fill me in?        thanks,           Dave        CineMasterpieces.com Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List  Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L  The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com
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[MOPO] Fw: [MOPO] what's all this about a flyer?

[Walter Reuben]

Actually, JR wants all dealers to send out a flyer 
with very specific wording---
IF YOU DIDN'T BUY IT FROM THE BIG KIRBY, YOU PAID 
TOO MUCH!!!


W
- Original Message - 
From: Kirby McDaniel 

To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 

Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 10:01 AM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] what's all this about a flyer?
JR would like all dealers to send out a flyer advertising
MovieArt Original Film Posters, Austin, TX

K.



On Sep 8, 2006, at 11:59 AM, David Lieberman wrote:

  
  


  


I must have missed something.

I don't read al these posts, can someone please fill me in?


thanks,



Dave


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[MOPO] Was there a Pale Rider (1985) Insert???

[Mike Davis]

Hey gang,

Has anyone ever seen a Pale Rider insert? I know that it was around that 
time that they started to move to just the 1-sheets (stupid move).


While on the topic, I would love to get my hands on a nice rolled High 
Plains Drifter insert - let me know!


Thanks
Mike

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[MOPO] Fw: [MOPO] Sellers NOT volunteering to send out Join MOPO flyers!

[Walter Reuben]

- Original Message - 
From: Walter Reuben [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: JR [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 10:20 AM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Sellers NOT volunteering to send out Join MOPO flyers!



I do not think that I like the tone of these threads.
If a seller does not include mailers about Mopo in his shipments, then he 
should be thrown off Mopo?

I don't think so.

WR
- Original Message - 
From: JR [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 9:37 PM
Subject: [MOPO] Sellers NOT volunteering to send out Join MOPO flyers!


It's been 4 business days ... many sellers have put through FA and FS 
messages to this list since then... but aside from Andy and Rich, NONE of 
them have publicly said they would be willing to put join MOPO flyers 
in with their poster shipments!


Yes, I'm keeping track of their names and how many times they use MOPO to 
advertise their items over the next week or so. We haven't even heard 
from Bruce, who was the one who brought up the subject of the declining 
membership in MOPO over the weekend and the one who could obviously make 
the most impact by putting a flyer in each of the packages he ships. 
You'd think that sellers would be interested in doing a little something 
to increase MOPO membership... something that didn't cost them more than 
a couple of pennies... something that would also be to their benefit 
because more MOPO members means more people seeing their ads.


You'd think so, wouldn't you? But you'd be wrong.

Yes... I've got a little list... Fair warning.

-- JR

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Re: [MOPO] what's all this about a flyer?

[Dave Rosen]

Damn! I wish I'd said that.

Dave
Posteropolis
www.posteropolis.com


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  From: 
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  McDaniel 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  
  Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 1:01 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] what's all this about 
  a flyer?
  JR would like all dealers to send out a flyer advertising
  MovieArt Original Film Posters, Austin, TX
  
  K.
  
  
  
  On Sep 8, 2006, at 11:59 AM, David Lieberman wrote:
  


  
  

  
  
  I must have missed something.
  
  I don't read al these posts, can someone please fill me in?
  
  
  thanks,
  
  
  
  Dave
  
  
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[MOPO] MOPO-f/s Posters and books, and tigers and bears OH my Hollywood dream f actory® sell a thon

[Tom Martin]

hello MOPO earthdate  9-8-2006  


greetings fellow Humans.


I have many things for sale on ebay please LOOK.

I am selling lots of 4 original unused theatrical Posters  starting at 
10.00  they will be shipped priority mail  and im giving freebes with 
each order.


I am approaching the sale with a  angle of giving a crossection of 
collectables.. there will be books, magazines, comics, artifacts, STILLs 
up the ying tang


and you name it Toys odd stuff..like cheescake pin up. detective 
magazines.. some Music related Broadway, Radio, Televison...

Basically all the arts..
Plus some sculpture.. art and paintings..  and I plan to make some art,,


Today my friend a Photographer said my ads are like ED wood. 
so... If it gives You some FUN go ahead and laugh... as it amazes me 
when I see people sputter and there veins  pop because I cannot spell 
good or  my grammar is poor


I just see more important things needed.. Like people getting along.. as 
Top priority... I mean som of the aboriginies seem kinder than  guys on 
wall street


and more civilized   OK? Capishe?


But heres my Funny... in 1996 I made a tribute megaphone for the 1st 
showingof Motion Pictures  on April 23.1896 atKoster and bials Music hall


on the place where Macys stands todaywell I spent 1000.00 on a press 
release announceing it on PR newswire service Not ONE paper or  new 
service
picked it up... I scratched my head all these years. then Today as I 
listed one on ebay IT dawned on me guess what


I made a commemorative megaphone for the Movies when NO sound was around 
YET Go ahead laugh.. this is a true story..


yep.. I made a megaphone for the silent  era... alawys thinkin 
here 24/7   and I spent 1000.00 to promote it talk about a 
conversation piece.


well if that aint original I dont know what is.

take a look at the megaphone and other whimsical and serious stuff on 
ebay seller id DREAM FACTORY






thanks, TOM

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Re: [MOPO] Sellers NOT volunteering to send out Join MOPO flyers!

[abe]

As soon as a PDF of the flier is available, I'll start putting them in with shipments.later,abe
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Re: [MOPO] Two-sheets are NOT 40 x 60s

[Dario Casadei]

Hey Guys,
I agree, Never heard a 40x60 called two sheet. It has always been known
as a 40x60.
They are rare prior to 1950. I also know that they were rolled up and
used as shipping tubes as well, splains why they are always so beat up
and hard to come by.

I have a few hanging in my place, all from the 30's ... silk screens. I
have stack in the closet as well, maybe that's why they are so rare :-P 
Here are a few to enjoy.

http://members.shaw.ca/filmposters/ebaylist/iliveforlove.jpg

http://members.shaw.ca/filmposters/ebaylist/herecomescookie.jpg

http://members.shaw.ca/filmposters/ebaylist/soredtherose.jpg

Best,
Dario @ www.vintagemovieart ... 
For your linen backing and conservation needs.

Maybe a 3 sheet should be a 2 sheet, that would make a 6 sheet a 4
sheet, that would make a 40x60 a 3 sheet and 30x40 a 1 sheet. A 1 sheet
would be a 1/2 sheet, That would make a 1/2 sheet a window card.
^^^LOL))












  


  
  
I have long considered myself to be the world's leading authority on
two-sheets, and after reading what was posted here, I am 100% sure I am

  
  right.
  
  
Forty By Sixties are NOT two-sheets. Forty By Sixties are sometimes
printed on thinner paper, sometimes they were folded before being
sent to the theaters, and in very rare cases they measured SLIGHTLY
less than 40" x 60".

Forty By Sixties were offered in pressbooks starting in the early
1930s, yet next to none survive from before 1950. Why? At that time
they were almost always $2.50 or so at a time when one-sheets were 10
cents or 15 cents, and three-sheets were around 30 cents, so I bet
only the largest theaters splurged on them.

What are "two-sheets"? These were solely made by tiny studios, and
all the ones I have seen date from the 1940s and 1950s, and are from
either sexploitation, exploitation, or the lowest budget B-westerns.
They were printed on two one-sheet pieces, each measuring 27 x 41,
and, exactly like a three-sheet, the two pieces overlap. Some I have
seen are stamped two-sheet on the back.

I have NEVER seen a 40 x 60 in two pieces, and I have never seen a
two-sheet that was in one piece, so that can be an easy way to
determine which kind of poster it is.

But please NEVER call a 40 x 60 a two-sheet (although I have heard
longtime theater owners refer to them that way, and also some newer
theater owners refer to subway posters as two-sheets). I am in favor
of calling a poster by its true name, EXCEPT in the case of
"half-sheets" which were never ever called that by the studios (it
was always "displays" or "22x28", but THAT name is so ingrained that
I don't think we could get people to stop using it no matter what).

Bruce

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[MOPO] Fw: [MOPO] Two-sheets are NOT 40 x 60s

[Walter Reuben]

and, if this is not confusing enough, consider 
this---
If you look at British pressbooks of the 1930's, 
their six sheets are what we call three sheets, and their twelve sheets are what 
we call six sheets.

WR
- Original Message - 
From: Dario 
Casadei 
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 

Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 11:54 AM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Two-sheets are NOT 40 x 60s
Hey Guys,I agree, Never heard a 40x60 called two sheet. 
It has always been known as a 40x60.They are rare prior to 1950. I also know 
that they were rolled up and used as shipping tubes as well, splains why they 
are always so beat up and hard to come by.I have a few hanging in my 
place, all from the 30's ... silk screens. I have stack in the closet as well, 
maybe that's why they are so rare :-P 
Here are a few to enjoy.http://members.shaw.ca/filmposters/ebaylist/iliveforlove.jpghttp://members.shaw.ca/filmposters/ebaylist/herecomescookie.jpghttp://members.shaw.ca/filmposters/ebaylist/soredtherose.jpgBest,Dario 
@ www.vintagemovieart ... For your linen 
backing and conservation needs.Maybe a 3 sheet should be a 2 sheet, that 
would make a 6 sheet a 4 sheet, that would make a 40x60 a 3 sheet and 30x40 a 1 
sheet. A 1 sheet would be a 1/2 sheet, That would make a 1/2 sheet a window 
card. ^^^LOL))


  
  I have long considered myself to be the world's leading authority on
two-sheets, and after reading what was posted here, I am 100% sure I am
right.
  
  Forty By Sixties are NOT two-sheets. Forty By Sixties are sometimes
printed on thinner paper, sometimes they were folded before being
sent to the theaters, and in very rare cases they measured SLIGHTLY
less than 40" x 60".

Forty By Sixties were offered in pressbooks starting in the early
1930s, yet next to none survive from before 1950. Why? At that time
they were almost always $2.50 or so at a time when one-sheets were 10
cents or 15 cents, and three-sheets were around 30 cents, so I bet
only the largest theaters splurged on them.

What are "two-sheets"? These were solely made by tiny studios, and
all the ones I have seen date from the 1940s and 1950s, and are from
either sexploitation, exploitation, or the lowest budget B-westerns.
They were printed on two one-sheet pieces, each measuring 27 x 41,
and, exactly like a three-sheet, the two pieces overlap. Some I have
seen are stamped two-sheet on the back.

I have NEVER seen a 40 x 60 in two pieces, and I have never seen a
two-sheet that was in one piece, so that can be an easy way to
determine which kind of poster it is.

But please NEVER call a 40 x 60 a two-sheet (although I have heard
longtime theater owners refer to them that way, and also some newer
theater owners refer to subway posters as two-sheets). I am in favor
of calling a poster by its true name, EXCEPT in the case of
"half-sheets" which were never ever called that by the studios (it
was always "displays" or "22x28", but THAT name is so ingrained that
I don't think we could get people to stop using it no matter what).

Bruce

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Re: [MOPO] Sellers NOT volunteering to send out Join MOPO flyers!

[pj angel]

JR,Are you serious about contributing to a "MOPO flyer printing fund"?I could use a printer.pjJR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Ron and Phil,Well, yeah, if someone is only selling to MOPO members with genuine FS-type posts... and not selling to other movie poster collectors through other venues like an auction site or a retail web site, then naturally there would be no point in sending "join MOPO" flyers out with those shipments if the only people you were ever shipping to were already MOPO members.As for Phil being bewildered about this idea of sending out flyers... what, haven't you been paying attention, Phil? Bruce sent this list an out-of-the-blue question last week wondering about "Is membership in MOPO declining?"
 Now, he was either being snide or genuinely concerned. Let's assume the later, as most people did, which lead to quite a few people expressing concern about the fact that we're down from a high of about 500 members a year ago to about 400 now. It was pointed out that sellers who regularly list their items for sale on this list are the ones with "the most to lose" from a declining membership.It was then suggested that rather than fiddle with the MOPO format... or require people to post in order to maintain membership (a real bad idea)... that the best thing would be to have a membership drive and the most effective way to bring in some new members would be for the sellers to send out "join MOPO" flyers with every poster they ship. To me, this seems like one of those really good ideas that is a no-brainer and while there is certainly no official requirement that sellers do this, it seems like a good thing to do. But we both know that as a group, sellers are a
 quiescent, status-quo bunch, and that if nobody pushes them, this will end up being just another good idea that never gets implemented. So I'm doing a bit of pushing for the idea to see if we can't get most of the sellers who regularly advertise their wares on MOPO to give back a little and do this easy, simple, cheap thing to bring in some new members. But, in my usual curmudgeonly fashion, I couldn't help commenting that while this was a great idea, that I doubted many of the sellers who regularly post FA messages to MOPO would bother. So far they have proven me correct, with only a couple of sellers publicly stating they will include flyers in their shipments. I'm keeping a list of those who continue to advertise here won't publicly commit to tucking a flyer into their packages simply as means of keeping track -- so I can eventually provide the inquiring minds of the public with a statistical analysis (one that names names merely in the interests of accuracy,
 you understand) which will prove my original contention -- that lots of sellers are perfectly willing to use this list to advertise on, but most of them can't be bothered to even do something this simple and easy to improve it.I can be proven wrong in this contention very easily. I doubt that I will be, however.Personally, I don't think the number of members on MOPO matters at all -- but if the sellers are concerned about "declining membership" then there is something simple the sellers can do about it.-- JR- Original Message - From: "Phil Edwards Cinemarts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 4:26Subject: Re: [MOPO] Sellers NOT volunteering to send out Join MOPO flyers! Ron - I think posting direct FS to MOPO is a good idea, nothing wrong  with it at all. So long as posts are labeled as Scott has requested as FA, FS, etc, then
  why not? It's direct target audience selling and if Scott as list owner doesn't  have a problem with it then I don't see why anyone else would. Buying,  selling and trading movie posters is a common denominator, isn't it?  You can also post direct FS to the FS/FA section on NSFGE as well.  Both Ari and myself have no problem with people who post only in the  FS/FA section of NSFGE and don't contribute otherwise. Like any such  forums it's there for people to use. It also has the benefit of you being able to post an image itself rather  than a link to an image and there are plenty of free pic hosting services such as Photobucket to  use for that. There are several dealers who regularly offer material, or  links to their auctions, BINs and website updates and never say "boo" otherwise.  I don't think Ari and I have even ever asked
 each other, "uh, why don't  they post comments as well?"  Both MPF and MPC have FS/FA sections to. I doubt either Andy or Erich  have any strict rules about requirements to post in the general chat  forums to offer your items for sale.  All a pretty healthy way to do business, I'd say.  I don't quite understand why being a MOPO member requires any sort of  commitment to either post to the forum itself, or include MOPO fliers or  MPB fliers in with sales items to demonstrate some sort of loyalty or  commitment... to what, exactly?  If people want to post, they 

Re: [MOPO] Sellers NOT volunteering to send out Join MOPO flyers! Why not Link?

[Kenwick Cook]

I've been thinking... why not just e-mail a link to the MoPo site to new 
buyers? Not only can flyers use up a lot of time, paper, and ink cartridges, but 
can easily be ignored and discarded... whereas a link to the site can get the 
buyer to quickly, conveniently, and immediately hit it? This would probably be 
more effective. Just a thought.
FranKenwick
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[MOPO] Fw: [MOPO] Sellers NOT volunteering to send out Join MOPO flyers!

[Walter Reuben]

It was already established in an email from Scott 
that most of the so-called declines in membership were due to many Mopo members 
not receiving emails due to spam blockers.

WR
- Original Message - 
From: pj angel 
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 

Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 12:12 PM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Sellers NOT volunteering to send out Join MOPO 
flyers!

JR,

Are you serious about contributing to a "MOPO flyer printing fund"?

I could use a printer.

pjJR [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
Ron 
  and Phil,Well, yeah, if someone is only selling to MOPO members with 
  genuine FS-type posts... and not selling to other movie poster collectors 
  through other venues like an auction site or a retail web site, then naturally 
  there would be no point in sending "join MOPO" flyers out with those shipments 
  if the only people you were ever shipping to were already MOPO 
  members.As for Phil being bewildered about this idea of sending out 
  flyers... what, haven't you been paying attention, Phil? Bruce sent this list 
  an out-of-the-blue question last week wondering about "Is membership in MOPO 
  declining?" Now, he was either being snide or genuinely concerned. Let's 
  assume the later, as most people did, which lead to quite a few people 
  expressing concern about the fact that we're down from a high of about 500 
  members a year ago to about 400 now. It was pointed out that sellers who 
  regularly list their items for sale on this list are the ones with "the most 
  to lose" from a declining membership.It was then suggested that rather 
  than fiddle with the MOPO format... or require people to post in order to 
  maintain membership (a real bad idea)... that the best thing would be to have 
  a membership drive and the most effective way to bring in some new members 
  would be for the sellers to send out "join MOPO" flyers with every poster they 
  ship. To me, this seems like one of those really good ideas that is a 
  no-brainer and while there is certainly no official requirement that sellers 
  do this, it seems like a good thing to do. But we both know that as a group, 
  sellers are a quiescent, status-quo bunch, and that if nobody pushes them, 
  this will end up being just another good idea that never gets implemented. So 
  I'm doing a bit of pushing for the idea to see if we can't get most of the 
  sellers who regularly advertise their wares on MOPO to give back a little and 
  do this easy, simple, cheap thing to bring in some new members. But, 
  in my usual curmudgeonly fashion, I couldn't help commenting that while this 
  was a great idea, that I doubted many of the sellers who regularly post FA 
  messages to MOPO would bother. So far they have proven me correct, with only a 
  couple of sellers publicly stating they will include flyers in their 
  shipments. I'm keeping a list of those who continue to advertise here won't 
  publicly commit to tucking a flyer into their packages simply as means of 
  keeping track -- so I can eventually provide the inquiring minds of the public 
  with a statistical analysis (one that names names merely in the interests of 
  accuracy, you understand) which will prove my original contention -- that lots 
  of sellers are perfectly willing to use this list to advertise on, but most of 
  them can't be bothered to even do something this simple and easy to improve 
  it.I can be proven wrong in this contention very easily. I doubt that 
  I will be, however.Personally, I don't think the number of members on 
  MOPO matters at all -- but if the sellers are concerned about "declining 
  membership" then there is something simple the sellers can do about 
  it.-- JR- Original Message - From: "Phil 
  Edwards Cinemarts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: 
  Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 
  4:26Subject: Re: [MOPO] Sellers NOT volunteering to send out Join MOPO 
  flyers! Ron - I think posting direct FS to MOPO is a good 
  idea, nothing wrong  with it at all. So long as posts are 
  labeled as Scott has requested as FA, FS, etc, then  why not? 
  It's direct target audience selling and if Scott as list owner doesn't 
   have a problem with it then I don't see why anyone else would. 
  Buying,  selling and trading movie posters is a common denominator, 
  isn't it?  You can also post direct FS to the FS/FA section on 
  NSFGE as well.  Both Ari and myself have no problem with 
  people who post only in the  FS/FA section of NSFGE and don't 
  contribute otherwise. Like any such  forums it's there for people to 
  use. It also has the benefit of you being able to post an image itself 
  rather  than a link to an image and there are plenty of free 
  pic hosting services such as Photobucket to  use for that. There are 
  several dealers who regularly offer material, or  links to their 
  auctions, BINs and website updates and never say "boo" 
  otherwise.  I don't think Ari and I have even ever asked each 
  

Re: [MOPO] Two-sheets are NOT 40 x 60s

[Dave Rosen]

BEAUTIFULposters, Dario!

Dave
Posteropolis
www.posteropolis.com


  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Dario 
  Casadei 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  
  Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 2:54 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] Two-sheets are NOT 40 
  x 60s
  Hey Guys,I agree, Never heard a 40x60 called two sheet. 
  It has always been known as a 40x60.They are rare prior to 1950. I also 
  know that they were rolled up and used as shipping tubes as well, splains why 
  they are always so beat up and hard to come by.I have a few hanging in 
  my place, all from the 30's ... silk screens. I have stack in the closet as 
  well, maybe that's why they are so rare :-P 
  Here are a few to enjoy.http://members.shaw.ca/filmposters/ebaylist/iliveforlove.jpghttp://members.shaw.ca/filmposters/ebaylist/herecomescookie.jpghttp://members.shaw.ca/filmposters/ebaylist/soredtherose.jpgBest,Dario 
  @ www.vintagemovieart ... For your 
  linen backing and conservation needs.Maybe a 3 sheet should be a 2 
  sheet, that would make a 6 sheet a 4 sheet, that would make a 40x60 a 3 sheet 
  and 30x40 a 1 sheet. A 1 sheet would be a 1/2 sheet, That would make a 1/2 
  sheet a window card. 
  ^^^LOL))
  

  
I have long considered myself to be the world's leading authority on
two-sheets, and after reading what was posted here, I am 100% sure I am
right.
  
Forty By Sixties are NOT two-sheets. Forty By Sixties are sometimes
printed on thinner paper, sometimes they were folded before being
sent to the theaters, and in very rare cases they measured SLIGHTLY
less than 40" x 60".

Forty By Sixties were offered in pressbooks starting in the early
1930s, yet next to none survive from before 1950. Why? At that time
they were almost always $2.50 or so at a time when one-sheets were 10
cents or 15 cents, and three-sheets were around 30 cents, so I bet
only the largest theaters splurged on them.

What are "two-sheets"? These were solely made by tiny studios, and
all the ones I have seen date from the 1940s and 1950s, and are from
either sexploitation, exploitation, or the lowest budget B-westerns.
They were printed on two one-sheet pieces, each measuring 27 x 41,
and, exactly like a three-sheet, the two pieces overlap. Some I have
seen are stamped two-sheet on the back.

I have NEVER seen a 40 x 60 in two pieces, and I have never seen a
two-sheet that was in one piece, so that can be an easy way to
determine which kind of poster it is.

But please NEVER call a 40 x 60 a two-sheet (although I have heard
longtime theater owners refer to them that way, and also some newer
theater owners refer to subway posters as two-sheets). I am in favor
of calling a poster by its true name, EXCEPT in the case of
"half-sheets" which were never ever called that by the studios (it
was always "displays" or "22x28", but THAT name is so ingrained that
I don't think we could get people to stop using it no matter what).

Bruce

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[MOPO] FS: Bogart

[Dario Casadei]

Hello everyone,
Direct from Dario's Broom closet, I present " Road to Frisco"' AKA "
They drive by night"
This is the title that was used in UK, which I would think make this
card .. Hmmm do I dare to say rare? let's just say unusual.
This is a linen card, so quite unusual stock for those of you who don't
know it.
Great shoot of Bogart, BTW!!

Condition is, corner tape front and back and to cover missing paper in
the corners. A few small pieces of tape on the back, here and there.
O'so slight trim on horizontal border. a few surface scratches, minor
stuff.
Overall a great looking card in vg/ex condition.

Price: 395.00 OBO + shipping.

Pictures:
members.shaw.ca/filmposte...ofront.jpg
members.shaw.ca/filmposte...coback.jpg

Thanks Lads  lassies!!
Dario.

Sorry, I had no MOPO last week when I fired this one out. so
not sure if it went through.


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Re: [MOPO] Fw: [MOPO] Sellers NOT volunteering to send out Join MOPO flyers!

[Dario Casadei]

All last week I had no Mopo mojo, but thing seems to have cleared up by
its self  strange? but good.
I can stick a flyer in when returning finished work to clients .. no
prob.

Best,
Dario @ www.vintagemovieart.ca


Walter Reuben wrote:

  
  
  
  It was already established in an
email from Scott that most of the so-called declines in membership were
due to many Mopo members not receiving emails due to spam blockers.
  
  WR
  -
Original Message -
  From:
  pj
angel 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
  
  Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 12:12 PM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] Sellers NOT volunteering to send out
Join MOPO flyers!
  
  
  
  JR,
  
  Are you serious about contributing to a "MOPO flyer printing
fund"?
  
  I could use a printer.
  
  pj
  
  
  JR [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
  Ron
and Phil,

Well, yeah, if someone is only selling to MOPO members with genuine
FS-type posts... and not selling to other movie poster collectors
through other venues like an auction site or a retail web site, then
naturally there would be no point in sending "join MOPO" flyers out
with those shipments if the only people you were ever shipping to were
already MOPO members.

As for Phil being bewildered about this idea of sending out flyers...
what, haven't you been paying attention, Phil? Bruce sent this list an
out-of-the-blue question last week wondering about "Is membership in
MOPO declining?" Now, he was either being snide or genuinely concerned.
Let's assume the later, as most people did, which lead to quite a few
people expressing concern about the fact that we're down from a high of
about 500 members a year ago to about 400 now. It was pointed out that
sellers who regularly list their items for sale on this list are the
ones with "the most to lose" from a declining membership.

It was then suggested that rather than fiddle with the MOPO format...
or require people to post in order to maintain membership (a real bad
idea)... that the best thing would be to have a membership drive and
the most effective way to bring in some new members would be for the
sellers to send out "join MOPO" flyers with every poster they ship. To
me, this seems like one of those really good ideas that is a no-brainer
and while there is certainly no official requirement that sellers do
this, it seems like a good thing to do. But we both know that as a
group, sellers are a quiescent, status-quo bunch, and that if nobody
pushes them, this will end up being just another good idea that never
gets implemented. So I'm doing a bit of pushing for the idea to see if
we can't get most of the sellers who regularly advertise their wares on
MOPO to give back a little and do this easy, simple, cheap thing to
bring in some new members. 

But, in my usual curmudgeonly fashion, I couldn't help commenting that
while this was a great idea, that I doubted many of the sellers who
regularly post FA messages to MOPO would bother. So far they have
proven me correct, with only a couple of sellers publicly stating they
will include flyers in their shipments. I'm keeping a list of those who
continue to advertise here won't publicly commit to tucking a flyer
into their packages simply as means of keeping track -- so I can
eventually provide the inquiring minds of the public with a statistical
analysis (one that names names merely in the interests of accuracy, you
understand) which will prove my original contention -- that lots of
sellers are perfectly willing to use this list to advertise on, but
most of them can't be bothered to even do something this simple and
easy to improve it.

I can be proven wrong in this contention very easily. I doubt that I
will be, however.

Personally, I don't think the number of members on MOPO matters at all
-- but if the sellers are concerned about "declining membership" then
there is something simple the sellers can do about it.

-- JR


- Original Message - 
From: "Phil Edwards Cinemarts" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 4:26
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Sellers NOT volunteering to send out Join MOPO
flyers!


 Ron - I think posting direct FS to MOPO is a good idea, nothing
wrong 
 with it at all.
 So long as posts are labeled as Scott has requested as FA, FS,
etc, then 
 why not?
 It's direct target audience selling and if Scott as list owner
doesn't 
 have a problem with it then I don't see why anyone else would.
Buying, 
 selling and trading movie posters is a common denominator, isn't
it?
 
 You can also post direct FS to the FS/FA section on NSFGE as well.
 
 Both Ari and myself have no problem with people who post only in
the 
 FS/FA section of NSFGE and don't contribute otherwise. Like any
such 
 forums it's there for people to use.
 It also has the benefit of you being able to post an image itself
rather 
 than a link to an image
 and there are plenty of free pic hosting services such as
Photobucket to 
 use for that. There are several dealers who regularly offer

Re: [MOPO] Fw: [MOPO] Sellers NOT volunteering to send out Join MOPO flyers!

[JR]

PJ and Walter,

Walter, no... Scott said some of the decline in membership were due to some 
members accounts not receiving email for one reason or another, not "most." The 
drop from 500 to 400 did not happen overnight... I've been watching the total of 
members go down slowly, a few every week, over the course of the past year. 
Besides, for whatever reason they are not receiving messages, they are not 
receiving them -- which is the same as if they weren't on the list for all 
practical purpose.Someone please tell me exactly what they think is wrong 
or "onerous" with the idea of sellers slipping a "join MOPO" flyer into 
something they are going to have to go to the trouble of packaging and shipping 
anyway -- exactly howdoes this hurt, inconvenience or cause them any 
trouble? And can someone come up with a better way to recruit new members 
to this list? And wouldn't the sellers be the one who benefit most from such a 
program? Please answer these question instead of something totally bogus like 
you did when you said:

I do not think that I like the tone of these threads. If a 
seller does not include mailers about Mopo in his shipments, then he  
should be thrown off Mopo? I don't think so.
Did I say they should be"thrown off MOPO" if they didn't? No. Did 
anyone else? No. You are theonly one who said any such thing in a 
transparent dodge to shift the focus of this discussion elsewhere. For shame. 
Seems I was right that most of the sellers on this list are perfectly willing to 
send through their ads every week, but ask them to do something even this simple 
and easy in returnand for most of them it's "Oh, no we can't do that". But 
I'm not surprised -- this is exactly what I said the seller attitude would be 
when the idea was first suggested. Thanks for proving me right. 

PJ... what I said was I would be willing to contribute $5 a month for a 
year to a Bruce Hershenson "MOPO flyer printing fund" --I was willing to 
do that because Bruce does such a large volume every weekthat he is the 
only one who might have a legitimate gripe about the "expense" of printing up 
enough flyers to send out with every package. Yes, it was a bit of a bait, but I 
was serious enough and will do it if he wants to set upsuch a fund.

-- JR

- Original Message - 
From: Walter Reuben 

To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 

Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 15:25
Subject: [MOPO] Fw: [MOPO] Sellers NOT volunteering to send out Join 
MOPO flyers!

It was already established in an email from Scott 
that most of the so-called declines in membership were due to many Mopo members 
not receiving emails due to spam blockers.

I do not think that I like the tone of these threads. If a 
seller does not include mailers about Mopo in his shipments, then he  
should be thrown off Mopo? I don't think so. WR

WR
- Original Message - 
From: pj angel 
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 

Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 12:12 PM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Sellers NOT volunteering to send out Join MOPO 
flyers!

JR,

Are you serious about contributing to a "MOPO flyer printing fund"?

I could use a printer.

pjJR [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
Ron 
  and Phil,Well, yeah, if someone is only selling to MOPO members with 
  genuine FS-type posts... and not selling to other movie poster collectors 
  through other venues like an auction site or a retail web site, then naturally 
  there would be no point in sending "join MOPO" flyers out with those shipments 
  if the only people you were ever shipping to were already MOPO 
  members.As for Phil being bewildered about this idea of sending out 
  flyers... what, haven't you been paying attention, Phil? Bruce sent this list 
  an out-of-the-blue question last week wondering about "Is membership in MOPO 
  declining?" Now, he was either being snide or genuinely concerned. Let's 
  assume the later, as most people did, which lead to quite a few people 
  expressing concern about the fact that we're down from a high of about 500 
  members a year ago to about 400 now. It was pointed out that sellers who 
  regularly list their items for sale on this list are the ones with "the most 
  to lose" from a declining membership.It was then suggested that rather 
  than fiddle with the MOPO format... or require people to post in order to 
  maintain membership (a real bad idea)... that the best thing would be to have 
  a membership drive and the most effective way to bring in some new members 
  would be for the sellers to send out "join MOPO" flyers with every poster they 
  ship. To me, this seems like one of those really good ideas that is a 
  no-brainer and while there is certainly no official requirement that sellers 
  do this, it seems like a good thing to do. But we both know that as a group, 
  sellers are a quiescent, status-quo bunch, and that if nobody pushes them, 
  this will end up being just another good idea that never gets implemented. So 
  I'm doing a bit of pushing for the 

Re: [MOPO] what's all this about a flyer?

[Old Time Cinema]

I almost fell out of my chair on that one Kirby, LMAO!



On Fri, 8 Sep 2006 12:01:43 -0500, Kirby McDaniel wrote
 JR would like all dealers to send out a flyer advertising
 MovieArt Original Film Posters, Austin, TX
 

 K.
 

 
 On Sep 8, 2006, at 11:59 AM, David Lieberman wrote:


 



 
   
 I must have missed something. 
   
 I don't read al these posts, can someone please fill me in? 
   
   
 thanks, 
   
   
   
 Dave 
   
   
 CineMasterpieces.com


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[MOPO] Fw: [MOPO] Fw: [MOPO] Sellers NOT volunteering to send out Join MOPO flyers!

[Walter Reuben]

To be honest, I am disappointed in 
Mopo.
A huge amount of postings of personal attacks 
followed by personal counter-attacks and on and on and on.
Then, every few months, somebody makes a comment 
which insults somebody's else's politics or religion, and that provokes a frenzy 
of emails pro and con.
When somebody like Bruce Hershenson or Claude 
Litton or Grey Smith posts, it is always of interest. But they all stick 
to the subject of this forum and produce thoughtful comments. A huge 
amount of the emails that I get here have nothing whatsoever to do with movie 
poster collecting.
As it now stands, I am not willing to recommend 
Mopo to my clients. It is as simple as that.

WR

- Original Message - 
From: JR 
To: Walter Reuben ; MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 12:10 PM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Fw: [MOPO] Sellers NOT volunteering to send out 
Join MOPO flyers!

PJ and Walter,

Walter, no... Scott said some of the decline in membership were due to some 
members accounts not receiving email for one reason or another, not "most." The 
drop from 500 to 400 did not happen overnight... I've been watching the total of 
members go down slowly, a few every week, over the course of the past year. 
Besides, for whatever reason they are not receiving messages, they are not 
receiving them -- which is the same as if they weren't on the list for all 
practical purpose.Someone please tell me exactly what they think is wrong 
or "onerous" with the idea of sellers slipping a "join MOPO" flyer into 
something they are going to have to go to the trouble of packaging and shipping 
anyway -- exactly howdoes this hurt, inconvenience or cause them any 
trouble? And can someone come up with a better way to recruit new members 
to this list? And wouldn't the sellers be the one who benefit most from such a 
program? Please answer these question instead of something totally bogus like 
you did when you said:

I do not think that I like the tone of these threads. If a 
seller does not include mailers about Mopo in his shipments, then he  
should be thrown off Mopo? I don't think so.
Did I say they should be"thrown off MOPO" if they didn't? No. Did 
anyone else? No. You are theonly one who said any such thing in a 
transparent dodge to shift the focus of this discussion elsewhere. For shame. 
Seems I was right that most of the sellers on this list are perfectly willing to 
send through their ads every week, but ask them to do something even this simple 
and easy in returnand for most of them it's "Oh, no we can't do that". But 
I'm not surprised -- this is exactly what I said the seller attitude would be 
when the idea was first suggested. Thanks for proving me right. 

PJ... what I said was I would be willing to contribute $5 a month for a 
year to a Bruce Hershenson "MOPO flyer printing fund" --I was willing to 
do that because Bruce does such a large volume every weekthat he is the 
only one who might have a legitimate gripe about the "expense" of printing up 
enough flyers to send out with every package. Yes, it was a bit of a bait, but I 
was serious enough and will do it if he wants to set upsuch a fund.

-- JR

- Original Message - 
From: Walter Reuben 

To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 

Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 15:25
Subject: [MOPO] Fw: [MOPO] Sellers NOT volunteering to send out Join 
MOPO flyers!

It was already established in an email from Scott 
that most of the so-called declines in membership were due to many Mopo members 
not receiving emails due to spam blockers.

I do not think that I like the tone of these threads. If a 
seller does not include mailers about Mopo in his shipments, then he  
should be thrown off Mopo? I don't think so. WR

WR
- Original Message - 
From: pj angel 
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 

Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 12:12 PM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Sellers NOT volunteering to send out Join MOPO 
flyers!

JR,

Are you serious about contributing to a "MOPO flyer printing fund"?

I could use a printer.

pjJR [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
Ron 
  and Phil,Well, yeah, if someone is only selling to MOPO members with 
  genuine FS-type posts... and not selling to other movie poster collectors 
  through other venues like an auction site or a retail web site, then naturally 
  there would be no point in sending "join MOPO" flyers out with those shipments 
  if the only people you were ever shipping to were already MOPO 
  members.As for Phil being bewildered about this idea of sending out 
  flyers... what, haven't you been paying attention, Phil? Bruce sent this list 
  an out-of-the-blue question last week wondering about "Is membership in MOPO 
  declining?" Now, he was either being snide or genuinely concerned. Let's 
  assume the later, as most people did, which lead to quite a few people 
  expressing concern about the fact that we're down from a high of about 500 
  members a year ago to about 400 now. It was 

[MOPO] fa: KING KONG NO RESERVE!!! NM C9 SMALL FRENCH/BELGIAN 1938

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[Rixposterz]

Hi,

 I have almost 40 AUCTIONS closing SUNDAY NIGHT, 1/2 are FIRST TIME 
LISTED VintageUS posters and Lobby Cards---the other 1/2 are US Posters 
and Lobby Cards at prices GREATLY SLASHED!! Here's the link: Please 
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[James Dietz]

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Re: [MOPO] Jon Warren - my newest version of C10 grading scale is posted on our site

[Evan Zweifel]

Jon,

Some comments on your grading scale.  And I post them here, only in the hopes 
that others will follow.  Good luck with your quest!

Enjoy,

Evan.



C8:

   Writing, (pencil, light pen) on the front of the poster if it is very small 
and only when described in detail.

Remove and only when described in detail -- either small writing is 
acceptable in this grade or its not -- the description has nothing to do with 
it (besides all defects should be described). In fact, you should remove all 
similar comments (like and is described).

I don't think any fading is acceptable in C8.  Of all of the flaws fading is 
one of the most difficult to fix (and requires tremendous painting). 

Censor stamp, if present, should appear in unobtrusive location (NOT on Jimmy 
Stewarts forehead).

C6:

   Surface paper loss is allowed in this grade if documented in the 
description. 

This would have to pretty minor.  Your definition suggests that if half the 
poster is scraped off, thats OK as long as I describe it.

The foxing should be minimal in this grade.  

It is at this point, I have significant issues.  You list:

   The following flaws are acceptable in this grade, but should be documented 
and described:

* Numerous, countless pinholes
* Border creases which may extend into the image area of the poster
* Tape or tape stain residue
* Minor holes
* Writing, (marker pen, biro etc.) on the front of the poster
* Foxing (light brownish spots that look almost rusty)
* Dampness staining
* Paint staining
* Soiling, i.e. mildew or dustiness
* Minor Fading
* Minor Paper loss (very small piece missing)
* Censor stamp/sticker
* Border chips
* Staple marks

And frankly, if the poster has all of these issues -- it would not be in C6.  
If a poster arrived in the mail (described as C6) and had all of these issues, 
I would be disappointed.

It seems more appropriate to describe (as you have) the types of issues a C6 
poster might have and indicate that in C6 you might have SOME (but not more 
than say 5) of these issues.

At some point you should discuss the dreaded extra fold problem, where an 
otherwise C9 poster has been folded one more time (dividing the poster into 16 
squares rather than 8 rectangles).  Or when 1 inch of the poster has been 
folded back to fit into a frame.

C5: 

   The first of the frightenly bad grades. At this point, the item is 
significantly worn or damaged to such a degreethat the eye appeal has been 
deteriously affected. It's ugly. Heavily worn, torn, soiled, chipped, written 
on,taped, kicked, punched, and spit upon.

   Nevertheless, if the item is a one-of-a-kind piece, or at least very rare, 
the collector should be able to gaze uponit in awe while overlooking the 
lack of preservation.

This is a little pessimistic here.  Not to mention you include C5 as the bottom 
of the Collector spectrum.  This is the middle!  So, granted I've only been 
collecting posters for 15 years or so, but I don't remember G/VG being 
considered ugly, heavily worn, torn...   Seems like, historically, this has 
been more: complete, with noticible wear,

I've always considered this grade as -- the lowest grade which can be restored 
w/o significant cost.  Also, I would claim, that most of the posters that exist 
pre-1950 are in this condition.

C4:

This used to be the bottom of the Collectors grade.  Especially for posters 
that are rare and/or very expensive in higher grades.  

Your list seems harsh.  Tears should not be outragous -- and missing paper 
along the tears would be bad.  Big writing in inappropriate areas would not be 
acceptable. Its hard to imaging several 2 holes be OK in any grade but poor.  
Brittleness of paper suggests Fair at best.

I surmise that if you had all of the items in your list, the poster should be 
discarded.

C3:

I think that Fair almost always suggest at least 1 very significant flaw.  Be 
it fading, or large writing, or missing paper.  The poster could mint 
otherwise, but something has gone very wrong. 

For me, the fading does not have to be significant to get to C3.  


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From: Jon Warren [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Hello all!
 
 I have been working on improving the clarity of the 10 point grading scale I
 introduced in the last edition of my Movie Poster Price Guide.  The
 (continually evolving) grading document lives on the web at
 
 www.icollectmovieposters.com/iguide/mp/grading/
 
 Please hold the burning in effigy if you disagree with my classifications. I
 appreciate constructive criticism, but would ask that all flames be held in
 thy tongue.  It is a work in progress, and can benefit from helpful
 suggestions, but hateful degradations serve no constructive purpose.
 
 I would appreciate feedback be sent directly to me at [EMAIL PROTECTED], or
 posted here.  I have added an ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS paragraph, which serves as an
 opportunity to 

[MOPO] WTB: Super 8mm movie camera

[Richard Auras]

Hello,
 I told a friend I would look to see if anyone out there has an inexpensive working Super 8mm movie camera. He needs one for college work. Any help is appreciated.

Rick

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