Re: [MOPO] Framing question

2012-06-19 Thread Helmut Hamm
Richard,

I have been float mounting posters for several years, my frame shop has done 
this very frequently for both myself and for clients. Depending on the poster, 
we have used both white and black backing boards. In any case, the backing 
board should run slightly larger than the actual poster, and you obviously need 
spacers to get the proper 'floating' effect. I guess it takes some experience 
to choose the best depth for the spacers, and especially rolled posters may be 
stopped by the glass, that's unevitable. My frame shop fixes the posters to the 
backing board with acid free paper tape, in as many spots as necessary. It is 
important though, that the poster actually 'hangs' in the frame, as the poster 
will shrink and extend a bit when the climate changes, so do not fix them at 
all four corners, but rather attach them at the top. 

I like linenbacking and restoration for posters that have severe defects, or 
damages that heavily distract from the overall appearance (like, old tape, 
uuurgh...)

When a poster has no or only light defects, I've had great results with float 
mounting, rather than hiding the folds or any defects, the float frame rather 
brings them out, it makes a poster look more like a piece of fine art. By 
clearly bringing out all defects, it also emphasizes on the fact that an old 
poster has a history, and another life, before it became a 'collectible'...

For me, and a fair number of my clients, float mounting is the way to go.

Helmut

http://www.filmposter.net


 Much as I've enjoyed the recent Mopo madness, here's something relatively 
 dull.
 
 Like many I've now shied away from automatically linen backing posters, and 
 want to get the next lot float mounted.
 Like this:
 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/evansrc/6069946_4a0340d948_o-2.jpg
 
 Needed to find a decent, yet not exorbitant framer in London, which I've done 
 (thanks to an esteemed MOPO member), but they're cautious about float 
 mounting.
 
 Even allowing for the rolled posters spending a time flattening out, they're 
 reticent because of the low tack nature of acid free tape.
 
 I'd still prefer my posters framed this way, does anyone have any experience?
 
 Thanks,
 Richard
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Re: [MOPO] Framing question

2012-06-19 Thread Adrian Cowdry

 

 Richard

my framer has done float mounted posters for several clients.

Ade

 

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Sent: Tue, 19 Jun 2012 13:38
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Richard,


I have been float mounting posters for several years, my frame shop has done 
this very frequently for both myself and for clients. Depending on the poster, 
we have used both white and black backing boards. In any case, the backing 
board should run slightly larger than the actual poster, and you obviously need 
spacers to get the proper 'floating' effect. I guess it takes some experience 
to choose the best depth for the spacers, and especially rolled posters may be 
stopped by the glass, that's unevitable. My frame shop fixes the posters to the 
backing board with acid free paper tape, in as many spots as necessary. It is 
important though, that the poster actually 'hangs' in the frame, as the poster 
will shrink and extend a bit when the climate changes, so do not fix them at 
all four corners, but rather attach them at the top. 


I like linenbacking and restoration for posters that have severe defects, or 
damages that heavily distract from the overall appearance (like, old tape, 
uuurgh...)


When a poster has no or only light defects, I've had great results with float 
mounting, rather than hiding the folds or any defects, the float frame rather 
brings them out, it makes a poster look more like a piece of fine art. By 
clearly bringing out all defects, it also emphasizes on the fact that an old 
poster has a history, and another life, before it became a 'collectible'...


For me, and a fair number of my clients, float mounting is the way to go.


Helmut


http://www.filmposter.net





Much as I've enjoyed the recent Mopo madness, here's something relatively dull.

Like many I've now shied away from automatically linen backing posters, and 
want to get the next lot float mounted.
Like this:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/evansrc/6069946_4a0340d948_o-2.jpg

Needed to find a decent, yet not exorbitant framer in London, which I've done 
(thanks to an esteemed MOPO member), but they're cautious about float mounting.

Even allowing for the rolled posters spending a time flattening out, they're 
reticent because of the low tack nature of acid free tape.

I'd still prefer my posters framed this way, does anyone have any experience?

Thanks,
Richard

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Re: [MOPO] Framing question

2012-06-19 Thread Geraldine Kudaka
I'm assuming you use acid free mounting boards. 


Can you suggest an online store where we can buy oversized boards?  We use Dick 
Blick and can only get sheets in the 32x40 size.




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Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 8:37 AM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Framing question
 

Richard,

I have been float mounting posters for several years, my frame shop has done 
this very frequently for both myself and for clients. Depending on the poster, 
we have used both white and black backing boards. In any case, the backing 
board should run slightly larger than the actual poster, and you obviously need 
spacers to get the proper 'floating' effect. I guess it takes some experience 
to choose the best depth for the spacers, and especially rolled posters may be 
stopped by the glass, that's unevitable. My frame shop fixes the posters to the 
backing board with acid free paper tape, in as many spots as necessary. It is 
important though, that the poster actually 'hangs' in the frame, as the poster 
will shrink and extend a bit when the climate changes, so do not fix them at 
all four corners, but rather attach them at the top. 

I like linenbacking and restoration for posters that have severe defects, or 
damages that heavily distract from the overall appearance (like, old tape, 
uuurgh...)

When a poster has no or only light defects, I've had great results with float 
mounting, rather than hiding the folds or any defects, the float frame rather 
brings them out, it makes a poster look more like a piece of fine art. By 
clearly bringing out all defects, it also emphasizes on the fact that an old 
poster has a history, and another life, before it became a 'collectible'...

For me, and a fair number of my clients, float mounting is the way to go.

Helmut

http://www.filmposter.net



Much as I've enjoyed the recent Mopo madness, here's something relatively dull.

Like many I've now shied away from automatically linen backing posters, and 
want to get the next lot float mounted.
Like this:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/evansrc/6069946_4a0340d948_o-2.jpg

Needed to find a decent, yet not exorbitant framer in London, which I've done 
(thanks to an esteemed MOPO member), but they're cautious about float mounting.

Even allowing for the rolled posters spending a time flattening out, they're 
reticent because of the low tack nature of acid free tape.

I'd still prefer my posters framed this way, does anyone have any experience?

Thanks,
Richard
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Re: [MOPO] Framing question

2012-06-19 Thread Richard C Evans
Thanks Helmut, didn't realise that it would just be anchored at the top edge.

Likewise, really like the museum look for some pieces, and never really been 
that keen on window mounts for larger posters.

Adrian, yes it's your guy, you're the esteemed Mopo member I referred to!
Seems V good.
He's ok with it, but just a bit cautious about poster staying put compared to 
other methods.

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On 19 Jun 2012, at 14:15, Adrian Cowdry jboh...@aol.com wrote:

 
 Richard
 
 my framer has done float mounted posters for several clients.
 
 Ade
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Helmut Hamm texasmu...@web.de
 To: MoPo-L MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
 Sent: Tue, 19 Jun 2012 13:38
 Subject: Re: [MOPO] Framing question
 
 Richard,
 
 I have been float mounting posters for several years, my frame shop has done 
 this very frequently for both myself and for clients. Depending on the 
 poster, we have used both white and black backing boards. In any case, the 
 backing board should run slightly larger than the actual poster, and you 
 obviously need spacers to get the proper 'floating' effect. I guess it takes 
 some experience to choose the best depth for the spacers, and especially 
 rolled posters may be stopped by the glass, that's unevitable. My frame shop 
 fixes the posters to the backing board with acid free paper tape, in as many 
 spots as necessary. It is important though, that the poster actually 'hangs' 
 in the frame, as the poster will shrink and extend a bit when the climate 
 changes, so do not fix them at all four corners, but rather attach them at 
 the top. 
 
 I like linenbacking and restoration for posters that have severe defects, or 
 damages that heavily distract from the overall appearance (like, old tape, 
 uuurgh...)
 
 When a poster has no or only light defects, I've had great results with float 
 mounting, rather than hiding the folds or any defects, the float frame rather 
 brings them out, it makes a poster look more like a piece of fine art. By 
 clearly bringing out all defects, it also emphasizes on the fact that an old 
 poster has a history, and another life, before it became a 'collectible'...
 
 For me, and a fair number of my clients, float mounting is the way to go.
 
 Helmut
 
 http://www.filmposter.net
 
 
 Much as I've enjoyed the recent Mopo madness, here's something relatively 
 dull.
 
 Like many I've now shied away from automatically linen backing posters, and 
 want to get the next lot float mounted.
 Like this:
 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/evansrc/6069946_4a0340d948_o-2.jpg
 
 Needed to find a decent, yet not exorbitant framer in London, which I've 
 done (thanks to an esteemed MOPO member), but they're cautious about float 
 mounting.
 
 Even allowing for the rolled posters spending a time flattening out, they're 
 reticent because of the low tack nature of acid free tape.
 
 I'd still prefer my posters framed this way, does anyone have any experience?
 
 Thanks,
 Richard
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[MOPO] Framing question

2012-06-18 Thread Richard C Evans
Much as I've enjoyed the recent Mopo madness, here's something relatively dull.

Like many I've now shied away from automatically linen backing posters, and 
want to get the next lot float mounted.
Like this:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/evansrc/6069946_4a0340d948_o-2.jpg

Needed to find a decent, yet not exorbitant framer in London, which I've done 
(thanks to an esteemed MOPO member), but they're cautious about float mounting.

Even allowing for the rolled posters spending a time flattening out, they're 
reticent because of the low tack nature of acid free tape.

I'd still prefer my posters framed this way, does anyone have any experience?

Thanks,
Richard

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Re: [MOPO] Framing question

2007-05-31 Thread chris quarles
It's under $200

JEFF POTOKAR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  i was debating having a 47x63 large 
french panel framed... i think it would weigh almost too much to hang, tho.  

  the other question to consider... what is your BADLANDS poster worth? the 
frame might be of more value than this particular poster.  

  

  
On May 30, 2007, at 11:45 AM, chris quarles wrote:

I have 60 by 40 of Badlands that I'd like to frame.
   
  I'd rather not spend the $400 my local guy would want.
   
  I noticed that Sue's Hollywood Poster Frames website indicates up to 31x46.
   
  Can you go bigger Sue?
   
  Anyone else had a 40 X60 framed?
   
  Discuss.
   
  chris quarles
  

  
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Re: [MOPO] Framing question

2007-05-31 Thread Susan Heim
Hey Jeff and all,
   Just to add a note. A 47x63 framed with 1/8 plexiglass typically weighs 
about 20-25 pounds. If you use a lightweight metal frame and 1/4 Artcare 
foamcore backing you would have no problem hanging it on the wall. I do 47x63 
posters in say a 3 wood and they only weigh a few pounds more. That is very 
lightweight for a wall. I have framed and hung mirrors that were close to and 
over 100 pounds or more. You have to secure them on the wall with something 
more than a hook or nail but they don't come down. In our earthquake that we 
had here in 1994, my piano wound up on the flip side of my couch, but all my 
movie posters framed in 1/8 plexiglass were still on the wall. They were 
sideways but not a one came down. In contrast, my customers that had items 
framed in glass all came down and broke and, for the most part, the items in 
the frames were severely damaged.  

If you are up to it and want to save some money, you can even frame your own 
French posters. Plexiglass normally is sold in 4'x8' sheets or 48x96. Don't 
assume your poster is exactly 47x63, they rarely are and if you have had it 
linenbacked it definitely won't be. Trim the excess linen down to about 1/4 
all the way around (the frame lip will cover that but you will still have 
something to hold onto) and you should still be under or at 48. Look up some 
plastics or plexiglass distributors in your area. Ask them to cut you a piece 
of acrylic or UV filtered plexiglass, whatever your needs and/or budget allow. 
Most high grade acrylics have some amount of UV filtering in them. Don't get so 
hung up on the UV filtering thing as most of us are not hanging our posters out 
on the patio and have the sense not to hang anything in direct consistent 
sunlight. Call a few frame stores too for a price quote. Then you can buy the 
metal frame legs from a frame store. I have an article on 
www.learnaboutmovieposters.comhttp://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/ and it 
is called Tips for oversize framing. It will provide you with some helpful 
hints. I am currently looking into sending out the frame material to customers 
who have oversize pieces and are trying to beat the high cost of retail 
framing. I will let you know soon, as so many of you have asked me to do it, 
what the cost of shipping will be. That is the factor up in the air at this 
point. As always feel free to call me with any questions.

Sue Heim
www.hollywoodposterframes.comhttp://www.hollywoodposterframes.com/
(800) 463-2994
  - Original Message - 
  From: JEFF POTOKARmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDUmailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 5:29 PM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] Framing question


  i was debating having a 47x63 large french panel framed... i think it would 
weigh almost too much to hang, tho. 


  the other question to consider... what is your BADLANDS poster worth? the 
frame might be of more value than this particular poster. 






  On May 30, 2007, at 11:45 AM, chris quarles wrote:


I have 60 by 40 of Badlands that I'd like to frame.

I'd rather not spend the $400 my local guy would want.

I noticed that Sue's Hollywood Poster Frames website indicates up to 
31x46.

Can you go bigger Sue?

Anyone else had a 40 X60 framed?

Discuss.

chris quarles




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Re: [MOPO] Framing question

2007-05-31 Thread Susan Heim
Toochis is a good example. Her Barbarella was an approximately 55x78.  We did 
it in a wood frame and it came out spectacular. The poster was a beauty to 
begin with. It probably weighed no more than 30-35 pounds and took no special 
system to hang it up other than hooks into drywall. I have a French poster 
above my fireplace in a wood frame and it is just hung with two hooks into 
drywall.

Sue
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  I've had a large Italian 2-panel of Barbarella framed by Sue and it looks 
great.  It also was easy to hang.

  Toochis


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  Subject: Re: [MOPO] Framing question

  i was debating having a 47x63 large french panel framed... i think it would 
weigh almost too much to hang, tho. 


  the other question to consider... what is your BADLANDS poster worth? the 
frame might be of more value than this particular poster. 






  On May 30, 2007, at 11:45 AM, chris quarles wrote:


I have 60 by 40 of Badlands that I'd like to frame.

I'd rather not spend the $400 my local guy would want.

I noticed that Sue's Hollywood Poster Frames website indicates up to 
31x46.

Can you go bigger Sue?

Anyone else had a 40 X60 framed?

Discuss.

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[MOPO] Framing question

2007-05-30 Thread chris quarles
I have 60 by 40 of Badlands that I'd like to frame.
   
  I'd rather not spend the $400 my local guy would want.
   
  I noticed that Sue's Hollywood Poster Frames website indicates up to 31x46.
   
  Can you go bigger Sue?
   
  Anyone else had a 40 X60 framed?
   
  Discuss.
   
  chris quarles

   
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Re: [MOPO] Framing question

2007-05-30 Thread JEFF POTOKAR
i was debating having a 47x63 large french panel framed... i think it  
would weigh almost too much to hang, tho.


the other question to consider... what is your BADLANDS poster worth?  
the frame might be of more value than this particular poster.




On May 30, 2007, at 11:45 AM, chris quarles wrote:


I have 60 by 40 of Badlands that I'd like to frame.

I'd rather not spend the $400 my local guy would want.

I noticed that Sue's Hollywood Poster Frames website indicates up  
to 31x46.


Can you go bigger Sue?

Anyone else had a 40 X60 framed?

Discuss.

chris quarles

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Re: [MOPO] Framing question

2007-05-30 Thread Toochis Morin
I've had a large Italian 2-panel of Barbarella framed by Sue and it looks 
great.  It also was easy to hang.

Toochis

- Original Message 
From: JEFF POTOKAR [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 5:29:31 PM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Framing question

i was debating having a 47x63 large french panel framed... i think it would 
weigh almost too much to hang, tho.

the other question to consider... what is your BADLANDS poster worth? the frame 
might be of more value than this particular poster.




On May 30, 2007, at 11:45 AM, chris quarles wrote:

I have 60 by 40 of Badlands that I'd like to frame.
   
  I'd rather not spend the $400 my local guy would want.
   
  I noticed that Sue's Hollywood Poster Frames website indicates up to 31x46.
   
  Can you go bigger Sue?
   
  Anyone else had a 40 X60 framed?
   
  Discuss.
   
  chris quarles
   

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