[MOPO] Fwd: [MOPO] A shift in thinking, linen-backing slabbing?

2007-04-15 Thread JEFF POTOKAR

hey all,

in this major question of linen backing , restoring, etc, i wanted  
to present and ask a question. i recently acquired the poster, for  
THE UNHOLY THREE (silent, 1925 version), starring lon chaney, sr.   
it has fold browning (it is large, French panel, 47x63). there is  
some fold separation..on 2 fold areas... what is the consensus on  
linen backing, bleaching out (or leaving) the brown fold lines, and  
doing minor repair on folio holes, etc? i can send a jpeg, to  
anyone who might have some info..i just realized i cant attach a  
jpeg to an email to the list.


thanks al!!

jeff



On Apr 15, 2007, at 9:36 PM, David Kusumoto wrote:

my DOUBLE INDEMNITY one sheet has no missing pieces anywhere, but  
does have seam separation.  colors are vibrant.  it has been  
framed for 20 years.  you can see the imperfections.  fair to  
value it at 3000 plus?   i could get a mint repro for ten bucks.   
get it?


Nope, I don't get it.  If I owned your poster, maybe I wouldn't  
linen-back it either.  But if I took your line of reasoning a few  
steps further -- it sounds like you believe your Indemnity poster  
on linen with its fold separation touched up would plunge its  
value below $3,000.  Moreover, when you drag into your argument:   
i could get a mint repro for ten bucks -- this sounds like you  
think backing and restoring would make your poster look too  
perfect, like a repro, raising questions about its authenticity.   
When you ask, what's the point? -- it sounds like you believe  
that backing and rstoring would undercut the rationale to spend a  
lot of money for -- and to preserve the value of -- an original  
poster w/defects that you're proud to own.


For you, preserving value and authenticity means this -- don't  
touch anything.  But to me, it also means -- let the natural  
effects of aging run their course on paper more than 60 years old  
that you have chosen to DISPLAY.  Well, I don't think  
sophisticated collectors with several thousand dollars to spend --  
are unable to spot the differences between a folded,  
conservatively restored, 1944 Double Indemnity 27x41 poster on  
linen -- with a $10 glossy 26x39 rolled repro with no fold lines.   
I know you're passionate with your anti-backing and anti- 
restoration beliefs, but I think you're too optimistic about the  
life span of old paper decorated with colored inks.  I might be  
wrong, but this is my view.


-koose.

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From: Michael B [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: A shift in thinking, linen-backing  slabbing?   
THUNDERBIRD

Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2007 20:17:52 -0400

i already gave my thoughts today on restoration.

why do people seem that they have to compare other artifacts?   
posters are unique.


but, since people compare other hobbies, think about  
this..  i have a neighbor who has the brightest white 1954  
or 55 TBIRD convertible with red leather.  he's had it for 3  
years.  then, last summer, he told meit is a KIT CAR.   
that means, nothing on it is older than 3 years!!!  what's the point?


my DOUBLE INDEMNITY one sheet has no missing pieces anywhere, but  
does have seam separation.  colors are vibrant.  it has been  
framed for 20 years.  you can see the imperfections.  fair to  
value it at 3000 plus?   i could get a mint repro for ten bucks.


get it?

michael

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Re: [MOPO] Fwd: [MOPO] A shift in thinking, linen-backing slabbing?

2007-04-15 Thread Flixspix
Jeff,
absolutely linenback that vintage French poster.The acids in the inks on 
foreign paper  can lay waste to the poorly milled  paper stock, coupled with 
the numerous intersecting fold lines all weakend again  by age , wear, and 
acids.
 
So not backing I fear the next to you check on your  French 
treasure...its going to be down  to an UHOLY TWO  and  starring  On Chan
 
freeman fisher
8601 west knoll drive #7
west hollywood,  ca
90069



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