RE: [MORPHMET] Open Access Repositories for GMM data and 3D models

2017-01-17 Thread Robert Z. Selden, Jr. 
Maybe look into Zenodo @ CERN? I've been using it for a while now, and have no 
complaints. Best, Zac



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From: Eric Delson [eric.del...@lehman.cuny.edu]
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 11:06 AM
To: ashleigh.haruda; Morphmet Discussion Group
Subject: Re: [MORPHMET] Open Access Repositories for GMM data and 3D models

Ashleigh, the best open-access repository for 3D models is morphosource.org  
They do not take GM data. My own site 
primo.nycep.org
 has our own GM data, but we don't accept random contributions (if you happen 
to work on primates, we could discuss this offline). I am willing to provide 
access to our underlying code (now being upgraded) if you want to set up your 
own GM source, that does not require much in the way of storage or expense.

I am not sure what you mean about pricing. Open-access usually implies no 
charges.

Eric Delson
Director, New York Consortium in Evolutionary Primatology and NYCEP 
Morphometrics Group
Professor of Anthropology, CUNY;
Research Associate, American Museum of Natural History
eric.del...@lehman.cuny.edu
http://www.nycep.org/ed

On 1/16/2017 12:10 PM, ashleigh.haruda wrote:
Dear All,

I've been investigating open access repositories to deposit both 3D models as 
well as GMM data and have been struggling to find any which offer built-in 
support and pricing for these types of data. I work mainly with 
zooarchaeological specimens, so I am most familiar with archaeological 
repositories such as Open Context and ADS. Does anyone have any other 
suggestions for good open access sites? I'm particularly interested in those 
which already have support in place, without having to create customized plans 
for acquisition and pricing.

Cheers,

Ashleigh
Ashleigh Haruda, Ph.D.


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Re: [MORPHMET] Open Access Repositories for GMM data and 3D models

2017-01-17 Thread Eric Delson 
Ashleigh, the best open-access repository for 3D models is 
morphosource.org  They do not take GM data. My own site primo.nycep.org 
has our own GM data, but we don't accept random contributions (if you 
happen to work on primates, we could discuss this offline). I am willing 
to provide access to our underlying code (now being upgraded) if you 
want to set up your own GM source, that does not require much in the way 
of storage or expense.


I am not sure what you mean about pricing. Open-access usually implies 
no charges.


Eric Delson

Director, New York Consortium in Evolutionary Primatology and NYCEP 
Morphometrics Group


Professor of Anthropology, CUNY;

Research Associate, American Museum of Natural History

eric.del...@lehman.cuny.edu

http://www.nycep.org/ed


On 1/16/2017 12:10 PM, ashleigh.haruda wrote:

Dear All,

I've been investigating open access repositories to deposit both 3D 
models as well as GMM data and have been struggling to find any which 
offer built-in support and pricing for these types of data. I work 
mainly with zooarchaeological specimens, so I am most familiar with 
archaeological repositories such as Open Context and ADS. Does anyone 
have any other suggestions for good open access sites? I'm 
particularly interested in those which already have support in place, 
without having to create customized plans for acquisition and pricing.


Cheers,

Ashleigh
Ashleigh Haruda, Ph.D.


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[MORPHMET] Open Access Repositories for GMM data and 3D models

2017-01-17 Thread ashleigh.haruda 
Dear All, 

I've been investigating open access repositories to deposit both 3D models 
as well as GMM data and have been struggling to find any which offer 
built-in support and pricing for these types of data. I work mainly with 
zooarchaeological specimens, so I am most familiar with archaeological 
repositories such as Open Context and ADS. Does anyone have any other 
suggestions for good open access sites? I'm particularly interested in 
those which already have support in place, without having to create 
customized plans for acquisition and pricing. 

Cheers, 

Ashleigh
Ashleigh Haruda, Ph.D.

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Re: [MORPHMET] using intermediate landmarks between semilandmarks

2017-01-17 Thread andrea cardini 

Dear Eli,

your question goes beyond pure methodological issues and the answer 
depends first on what you want to do.


I suggest everyone interested to read the two papers I've uploaded here:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxZeFy3y3MEpcHJzQlkxUlNwMEU/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxZeFy3y3MEpVWFXR09sRGZQOWs/view?usp=sharing


A brief quote from the first one:

"The choice of landmarks should be driven by the hypotheses that are 
being tested. It is possible to imagine situations  where different 
landmarks on the same structure are deemed  equivalent or not according 
to the question being asked. Thus,  in a study of bat and bird wings if 
one is interested in function, landmarks at wing tips and along the 
leading and trailing  edges may be functionally equivalent; they might 
embody the  question in being related to functionally relevant aspects 
of  form. However, these landmarks may lie on structures that  are not 
equivalent in other ways; for a study of growth or  evolution, 
alternative landmarks may be the most suited ones.  Thus, equivalence 
can mean different things according to the context; different sets of 
landmarks from the same structure  may well carry different information. 
In evolutionary studies,  all sets of landmarks may need to be combined 
because, of  course, function, growth, and other matters are all related 
to  evolution (Oxnard 2008)".


Among other many interesting considerations in the same paper and in the 
other one, the gorilla example (Fig. 7 of the first one) is particularly 
illuminating.



Good luck


Andrea



On 16/01/17 21:40, Elahep wrote:

Hello all,

Is this necessary/recommendable to use semilandmarks with intermediate 
landmarks in order to improve the accuracy and consistency of 
semilandmarks configuration?
Or is it enough to just anchor the first and the last semilandmarks 
with fixed landmarks?


Many thanks in advance,
Eli
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