Thanks everyone! 

On Thursday, January 28, 2016 at 1:39:43 AM UTC+11, Christy Hipsley wrote:
>
> Dear All, 
>
> I'm working with a 3D GM data set and am looking for a specific test of 
> convergence that also accounts for phylogeny. After some searching it's 
> still not clear to me what is appropriate - so far I only see programs that 
> use reduced PC axes as continuous characters, but nothing that uses the 
> full Procrustes coordinates. I've applied a phylogenetic ANOVA in Geomorph 
> to at least show that after accounting for phylogeny, morphological shape 
> is significantly different among ecological groups (in this clade several 
> unrelated lineages occur in the same ecological niche). 
>
> Does anyone know of a method for testing for convergence across a 
> phylogeny using the full shape data or is it always using PC scores? What 
> about using scores from a CVA instead, since they are specifically 
> addressing the question of differences among the a priori ecological groups 
> (and PCA does not)? Could those be mapped onto a phylogeny and modelled in 
> terms of BM vs OU, to test if that morphological change is adaptive? 
>
> Any advice on these analyses would be appreciated. I'm aware of the 
> package Surface but I'm not convinced that is right for my system. 
>
> My shape data has a significant phylogenetic signal and I suspect that one 
> ecological group in particular is highly convergent. 
>
>
> Thanks for any help! 
>
> Christy 
>
> School of BioSciences       
> University of Melbourne 
> Parkville VIC 3010, Australia         
> Email: chips...@unimelb.edu.au 
>

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