Dear GM community,

I'd like to get some opinions on methods for comparing ontogenetic 
trajectories of extant taxa within a phylogenetic framework. I've read 
several papers and spoken to colleagues about this and there appears to be 
no satisfactory conclusion. It seems that one can either describe 
trajectories as vectors (usually based on PC axes) and compare angles 
between them against a phylogeny using ancestral state reconstruction/PIC, 
or use the Procrustes data themselves, divided into age bins, to 
reconstruct ancestral morphologies of juveniles and adults, use those to 
build an ancestral ontogeny, and then compare that to the tip taxa. Both of 
these methods seem unsatisfactory to me, in that they rely on observed data 
to reconstruct ancestral states, which by definition will not fall outside 
of the current range. I know ASR is implicit and necessary in most 
phylogenetic tests, but I wonder if there is another way, or at least a 
complementary way to e.g., test for heterochronic shifts in ontogenetic 
allometry. 

Thanks for any thoughts on this, and I realize it may be a difficult 
subject. References to any papers with relevant methods would also be 
appreciated!

Christy 

School of BioSciences       
University of Melbourne 
Parkville VIC 3010, Australia         
Email: chips...@unimelb.edu.au 

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