Re: [mou-net] Correction: Rough-legged Hawk, Eden Prairie, Hennepin Co
I saw one in Scott Cnty at the Lawrence WMA 3 or 4 weeks ago... So I'm guessing it's not abnormal to see them this far south. Sent from my iPad On Mar 4, 2013, at 10:38 AM, Alex Cruz Jr wrote: > Correction: RlHa was headed EAST towards Edina from where I work in Eden > Prairie (near 169 and I494). > > Still looking up, > Alex Cruz > (directionally challenged) > > > Begin forwarded message: > >> From: Alex Cruz Jr >> Date: March 4, 2013 10:32:35 AM CST >> To: MOU-NET@LISTS.UMN.EDU, mnbird-ow...@lists.mnbird.net >> Subject: Rough-legged Hawk, Eden Prairie, Hennepin Co > >> Just a few moments ago, I was looking out my work window at the busy bird >> feeder when a Buteo caught my eye teetering overhead. It was a beautiful >> Rough-legged Hawk. This was a first for me for Hennepin County and the >> farthest south I've seen in Mn so it was an exciting "yard bird"--but I tend >> to be a real patch birder so I am not sure how unusual this sighting is. >> >> I work at Golden Triangle Dr in Eden Prairie and the bird was headed >> west.. so look for it Edina and Richfield! >> >> Looking up, >> Alex Cruz >> Hennepin Co > > > Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net > Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html
Re: [mou-net] Owl locations
MOUers: This discussion can be applied to unusual, out-of-range, etc. birds in general. Even though I was lucky enough to see the birds, I remember that overeager birders ran off the Ruddy Quail-Dove that was at Santa Ana National Wildlife Refuge in the 1990s and that other overeager birders caused the Eared Quetzal nest in the Huachuca Mountains in 1991 to fail. Such examples are part of why it is illegal per federal law to play songs of endangered species birds. On the other hand every year I take people on hikes every year to show them Golden-cheeked Warblers at one of our local state natural areas; I just don't play their songs to bring the things in. The fact that the Flammulated Owl that has been at the South Padre Island Convention Center, TX, has been there since January, illustrates that some species are more tolerant of disturbance than other species. I suspect that some species of birds may not be as tolerant of disturbance as that bird has been. Later! Steve Stevan Hawkins San Antonio TX -Original Message- From: Minnesota Birds [mailto:MOU-NET@LISTS.UMN.EDU] On Behalf Of Fr. Paul Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2013 3:00 PM To: MOU-NET@LISTS.UMN.EDU Subject: Re: [mou-net] Owl locations I'm sure this thread will be deleted as here we go again with owl locations, but my two cents are with Rachel. I can understand if someone wants to let others know of a unique bird or just be contacted via e-mail, but if someone is going to keep it to themselves entirely it's hard not to take it as gloating. I see a bird on here, I try to find it - that's the whole point of the list to me, not to hear of someone's great find, but to share in that by taking the time and trying to find a bird and get some nice photographs. I'm not sure how many people even know this list exists and think most on here would be respectful. Again, not posting it publicly but saying "Please e-mail me" or something like that is fine, but not sharing at all begs the question why share in the first place? Ego or gloating? Regards, Fr. Paul Kammen -Original Message- From: Minnesota Birds [mailto:MOU-NET@LISTS.UMN.EDU] On Behalf Of Crownhart, Rachel Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2013 2:08 PM To: MOU-NET@LISTS.UMN.EDU Subject: Re: [mou-net] Owl locations I will second this. And if you aren't going to share your locations what is the point in posting. Keep it to your self. Rachel Crownhart Sent from my iPhone On Mar 3, 2013, at 1:06 PM, "Sandy Kuder" wrote: > > Because I use calls and others use tapes to get the owls to respond, I want to minimize their exposure to disturbance. And using artificial calls of any kind is not a disturbance? > > As it was, we exposed the Screech Owl to predation by a Great-horned. I'm always amazed at how much credit people give themselves. > > I'm sorry, but this is extremely irritating. If I'm not mistaken, the MOU-listserve is about sharing information. Call me naive, but I believe mostbirders understand and have some ethics. It is a past-time or passion that is near and dear to a lot of heartsand no one I've ever met birding, would ever jeopardize their well-being. > > Just my two cents worth. > > SandyKuder, > Anoka County > > > > >> >> From: Steve Weston >> To: MOU-NET@LISTS.UMN.EDU >> Sent: Sunday, March 3, 2013 11:54 AM >> Subject: [mou-net] Owl locations >> >> Because I use calls and others use tapes to get the owls to respond, >> I want to minimize their exposure to disturbance. I am sorry, but >> will not be sharing my locations. As it was, we exposed the Screech >> Owl to predation by a Great-horned. I will share locations of the >> large owls that are visible by day. >> >> -- >> Steve Weston >> On Quigley Lake in Eagan, MN >> swest...@comcast.net >> >> >> Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net >> Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html > > > Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net > Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html
Re: [mou-net] Killer cardinals?
Randy: Omnivore birds such as Great-tailed Grackles, American Crows, etc. can leave puncture wounds. A year or so ago I watched a Great-tailed Grackle grabbing a very young House Sparrow or Purple Martin by the wing and then slamming it onto the street. It is reasonable that an American Crow or Blue Jay would use the same sort of tactic to kill a prey item. Later! Steve Stevan Hawkins San Antonio TX -Original Message- From: Minnesota Birds [mailto:MOU-NET@LISTS.UMN.EDU] On Behalf Of Frederickson Randy Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 8:57 AM To: MOU-NET@LISTS.UMN.EDU Subject: [mou-net] Killer cardinals? Came across an interesting scene in the neighbors driveway yesterday. A male cardinal that had just expired, small feathers scattered in the immediate area, he had a beak full of breast feathers still in his mouth. The posture and snow evidence was such as to indicate he was alone and still somewhat functional when he died. No broken bones or visible trauma. My first thought was he maybe got hit and pinned in the grill of their car and fell loose when they got home, but the feathers in the beak more strongly suggest a cardinal battle, which would be ironic since I never saw more than one pair of cardinals all winter in my neighborhood. Though I have a sharpie hunting my feeders the past few days, they always take their whole victims with them and won't leave dinner behind, and the cardinal did not looked plucked. I've certainly seen some nasty bird battles over the years, but never cardinals and never heard of passerines battling to the death. If you have seen such an episode, please share it with me. Randy Frederickson Willmar Middle School Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html
[mou-net] Varied Thrush in Austin
There is a Varied Thrush being seen just west of the intersection of 12th Ave & 20th St NE in Austin. The backyard contains feeders which can be seen from 12th Ave. Richard Smaby rnsm...@charter.net 507-433-1925 Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html
[mou-net] Correction: Rough-legged Hawk, Eden Prairie, Hennepin Co
Correction: RlHa was headed EAST towards Edina from where I work in Eden Prairie (near 169 and I494). Still looking up, Alex Cruz (directionally challenged) Begin forwarded message: From: Alex Cruz Jr Date: March 4, 2013 10:32:35 AM CST To: MOU-NET@LISTS.UMN.EDU, mnbird-ow...@lists.mnbird.net Subject: Rough-legged Hawk, Eden Prairie, Hennepin Co Just a few moments ago, I was looking out my work window at the busy bird feeder when a Buteo caught my eye teetering overhead. It was a beautiful Rough-legged Hawk. This was a first for me for Hennepin County and the farthest south I've seen in Mn so it was an exciting "yard bird"--but I tend to be a real patch birder so I am not sure how unusual this sighting is. I work at Golden Triangle Dr in Eden Prairie and the bird was headed west.. so look for it Edina and Richfield! Looking up, Alex Cruz Hennepin Co Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html
[mou-net] Rough-legged Hawk, Eden Prairie, Hennepin Co
Just a few moments ago, I was looking out my work window at the busy bird feeder when a Buteo caught my eye teetering overhead. It was a beautiful Rough-legged Hawk. This was a first for me for Hennepin County and the farthest south I've seen in Mn so it was an exciting "yard bird"--but I tend to be a real patch birder so I am not sure how unusual this sighting is. I work at Golden Triangle Dr in Eden Prairie and the bird was headed west.. so look for it Edina and Richfield! Looking up, Alex Cruz Hennepin Co Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html
[mou-net] Spotted Towhee is back in Faribault
Hello - After being a no-show on Saturday and Sunday for the weekend birders he is back at the feeders today! Looks like the snow brought him back in. The Hoary Redpoll is also back after not showing on Sunday. My guess is that today and the next few days may be the Tohwee's last encore before moving on with warm temps later in the week! Cheers! -- Jake Langeslag "The Pondologist" *Aqua Eden* *Waterscapes that Enrich Life * Local ~ 507-333-5959 http://www.AquaEden.com Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html
Re: [mou-net] Owl locations
I did go back and read your post, and the lack of the sharing of information is not only a disappointment to me, but in my opinion is inconsistent with one of the objectives of the list serve. Furthermore the suggestion that identifying Dakota County as a location is sharing information seems to me disingenuous. That's about the equivalent of saying there are walleye in lake Mille Lacs. I'm currently vacationing in Florida. For the last three weeks I have been visiting the nest of a great horned owl located in a small park (about 2 acres) in Punta Gorda. The nest is located in a large pine tree in an open area of the park with 360º viewing access of the nest. This is also the fourth or fifth year that the owls have successfully nested here, and the second year I have photographed them. This year I watched them fledge. Personnel at the park tell me that the site is visited by 50 to 100 birders and nature photographers each day. Park staff indicated that an overprotective neighbor complained about the public's access to the site. Florida DNR inspected the site and told the park staff there was no evidence that the birds were stressed, and no need to restrict public access. Through the sharing of specific information with other courteous birders and photographers visiting this site in the past three weeks, I have been able to visit other locations to photograph Florida scrub jays, red-cockaded woodpeckers (threatened), burrowing owls, the nests of two eagles (at which access was just as proximate as the owls) abundant painted and indigo buntings, and a pair of sandhill cranes with two colts who seemed to be under little stress as all four marched slowly across the asphalt of a busy Walmart parking lot feeding as they moved in the grassy medians. I'm indebted to the generous courtesy of the many birders and photographers I have met here in providing me with specific location information which I have passed along to others. It seems to me there is no point in simply posting that a particular bird has been seen unless specific information is provided as to location, unless the purpose is "a look what I've seen moment". -- Bernard P. Friel Member: North American Nature Photography Association Grand Canyon River Guides International Society of Aviation Photography The Explorers Club Web Pages - http://www.wampy.com > From: Matt Dufort > Reply-To: Matt Dufort > Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2013 14:55:30 -0600 > To: > Subject: Re: [mou-net] Owl locations > > He did share his locations - Dakota County, No, that's not an exact spot > that you can just drive up to, but it tells you that these birds are out > and about, and calling, in that part of the state. This is the same reason > for posting the presence of rarities when those species are not accessible > (such as on private land). It tells you that they're around, even if you > can't easily go and find those individual birds. > > Posting as Steve did provides that information, without subjecting > individual owls to the excessive attention that they might get if precise > locations were posted. Birder ethics vary, and anyone (not just birders) > can read posts to MOU-net. > > I, for one, appreciate such posts, and understand the reasons for keeping > exact locations private. > > Matt Dufort > > > On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Crownhart, Rachel < > rcrownh...@hastings.k12.mn.us> wrote: > >> I will second this. And if you aren't going to share your locations what >> is the point in posting. Keep it to your self. >> >> Rachel Crownhart >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Mar 3, 2013, at 1:06 PM, "Sandy Kuder" wrote: >> >>> >>> Because I use calls and others use tapes to get the owls to respond, I >> want to minimize their exposure to disturbance. And using artificial calls >> of any kind is not a disturbance? >>> >>> As it was, we exposed the Screech Owl to predation by a Great-horned. >> I'm always amazed at how much credit people give themselves. >>> >>> I'm sorry, but this is extremely irritating. If I'm not mistaken, the >> MOU-listserve is about sharing information. Call me naive, but I believe >> mostbirders understand and have some ethics. It is a past-time or passion >> that is near and dear to a lot of heartsand no one I've ever met birding, >> would ever jeopardize their well-being. >>> >>> Just my two cents worth. >>> >>> SandyKuder, >>> Anoka County >>> >>> >>> >>> From: Steve Weston To: MOU-NET@LISTS.UMN.EDU Sent: Sunday, March 3, 2013 11:54 AM Subject: [mou-net] Owl locations Because I use calls and others use tapes to get the owls to respond, I >> want to minimize their exposure to disturbance. I am sorry, but will not be sharing my locations. As it was, we exposed the Screech Owl to predation by a Great-horned. I will share locations of the large owls >> that are visible by
Re: [mou-net] Owl locations
Time to put this discussion to rest. If you want to discuss owl locations further please do so back channel. Thank you. Terry MOU-moderator. Terry Brashear Hennepin County, MN http://www.naturepixels.com birdnird AT yahoo.com Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html
