[Mpls] Clare Housing
Just when you thought the discussion had ended some pipsqueak sounds off! I do not doubt Victoria's search of Strib ads saying there are 394 apartments in the range of $500 to Let us talk definitions here. What is affordable? At one time I recall that affordable rent was thought to be 1/4 of a person's net income. If that were true today a person would need $2000/mo net plus. We have changed definitions though, haven't we? Now people are expected to pay 1/3, 1/2 or even more of their take home pay for housing leaving little else for a car or buspass, auto insurance or renters insurance, food, an occasional movie or a restaurant meal, etc. Not to mention ridiculous deposits of two and three times the monthly rental fee. Two or three years ago the Strib ran a story saying that a living wage was $10.50/hr at the same time the City of Minneapolis pegged a livable wage at $9.02/hr. Let's say a person makes $10.50/hr even now; that will be a gross of $1480/mo or about, let's say, $1125/mo net. So now a person pays 1/2 their pay on rent. Throw in that person is HIV-positive and likely faces limitations in earning capacity especially if their condition deteriorates. Now please tell me a project like Clare Housing and others like it are not necessary. And not just for those unlucky enough to be HIV positive but for those taking orders in fast food joints, swamping bars at night, cooking on a kitchen line, laying sod in the suburbs, cashiering at Target, ...I could go on but you get the point. Another point might be the anticipated growth in our community. Admittedly with the economy in the tank and layoffs rather than hirings the order of the day it is hard to imagine that those 394 apartments could be rented quickly but it is not beyond the realm of possibility if things heat up. I hate the word proactive. I hate all jargonese in fact but it seems to me that this project may be proactive. YECH! A bit of disclosure here: I am a member of the Board of Directors of CCHT which will have a considerable hand in this development. Part of the problem is there is little or no affordable housing being built in this city by private developers. They are qite happy to build market rate but not housing for low income folks. When the legislature acted this past session to offer incentives to builders of multi-unit housing they did not specify for whom to build it so guess what: we have projects like Grant Park going up while building housing of a more affordable nature is left to non-profits. Even with all I've said I have empathy for Ms Heller and the people in PRAC. They get squeezed from both ends. That's my take on this issue. Tim Connolly DT Resident P.S. Another disclosure: I live in supportive housing and thank god I do. __ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] Cub foods store on central is bad for central's development
1) Thank you (Robert Yorga) for bringing this issue to the list. I've seen several people from NE post lately I want to see people get involved on this issue. 2) I wish that the Northeaster was on-line...everyone should get a chance to read this article. It is right on point as was Robert Yorga's post. 3) I called Ostrow about this on Friday. He called me back personally on a Sunday left a message saying he was available to discuss this issue. Too bad I was working missed his call. I'm going to call him back on Tuesday (later today). I strongly encourage everyone to contact Ostrow's office about this topic. (To reach Ostrow please go to: http://www.ci.minneapolis.mn.us/council/ward1/index.asp) 4) I'm a new member of the East Side Food Cooperative think it's a much better idea than that of Cub Foods. For more information on the Co-op who it will serve, please go to: http://www.eastsidefoodcoop.org/index.htm 5) A Cub Foods isn't needed. I am in strong support on Patel's expansion other ethnic bulk food stores in the area. I've already mentioned the Co-op, Robert has mentioned the Rainbow at the Quarry, there are many small corner grocery stores in a 1-2 mile radius too. 6) I live within 6 blocks of the proposed Cub don't want it there. I have friends that drive well out of their way to go to the Holy Land, Crescent Moon Bakery, Patel, Asia Imports etc. People are not seeking out another big box like Cub (there is a new one close by in Roseville). I moved to the neighborhood 16 months ago because of the local community atmosphere. Bringing in big boxy business would only cause more damage to the local businesses Central Ave Revitalization Project. -I could go on on but have to sleep. -mandy tempel (NE just off Central) ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] Re: Minnesota Aids Project: Housing Resources in Minneapolis
I know that Ms. Heller didn't read the search criteria OR the items on the list. The search was for Housing Resources and Assistance. Shelters referral services are maxed out can't take the place of affordable housing. The affordable housing is full on a waiting list. Most of the 28 items on her list work together in some way, are not all AIDS specific, have special application/intake issues, not to mention the question on accessibility or availability. If it is one thing I hate it is people post things that they know nothing about. WAKE UP! Clare House Apartments are needed. Check out: http://www.clarehousing.org/ Ms. Heller's post/list proves nothing but the adage that a little knowledge is a dangerous often misused thing. -mandy tempel (in NE Mpls who can now rest) ALLIANCE APARTMENTS -Sober housing for individuals (no children). There are 100 permanent ( requiring 60 days sobriety) and 24 transitional (requiring 5 days sobriety) units. Must be homeless with no record of arson or criminal sexual conduct, proof of sobriety. Must stay sober to keep housing. Currently have people on the Waiting List. Bridge for Runaway Youth -Has short-term shelter services for GLBT youth (16-20 only) can provide referrals but NOT permanent housing for people with AIDS. Catholic Charities - Dupont Residence -A permanent supportive housing program located in south Minneapolis for families in need of affordable housing. Consists of six two-bedroom apartments. The residence is usually full. They do not maintain a waiting list, but do notify area case management programs when openings occur. Catholic Charities Branch III -Must have birth certificate and proof of Minnesota residency to use this _drop-in center_. This is program offers transitional housing referral for anyone in need. CENTRAL COMMUNITY HOUSING TRUST -Part of their housing numbers include places like the ALLIANCE APARTMENTS. But they claim over 1,000 units but how many are accessible do not discriminate against people with AIDS? Centro Cultural Chicano -multi-service agency serving the Latino community in Minnesota, which includes housing intervention programs. Centro also provides HIV/STD prevention and education for heterosexual people and youth in the Latino community. *Damiano House -a residence owned and operated by _Clare Housing_. Located in South Minneapolis, Damiano House is a home for those looking for health rehabilitation or end-of-life care. It offers furnished private rooms, phone, shared use of common spaces and meals. Services include: housekeeping, laundry, medication management, transportation, supervision, protection, and coordination of available support systems. Damiano House is a residence owned and operated by Clare Housing. Must be able to live with others in a foster care setting. Residence is fully accessible and provides 24-hour care and services. Damiano House is located on a bus line and near local merchants. All clients must complete an application with their case manager, social worker, or client advocate, and have another portion of the application completed by their HIV physician. All clients must complete an application with their case manager, social worker, or client advocate, and have another portion of the application completed by their HIV physician. *Ford House -An 11 unit apartment building in South Minneapolis for people living with HIV disease. Residents pay 30% of income for rent of a one bedroom apartment. Building has elevator, community room and laundry facilities. SALVATION ARMY Harbor Light Multi-Service Center -Offers emergency shelter, transitional and long term apartments and an evening meal at 6 p.m. seven days a week. Services include emergency shelter special needs unit for homeless persons who are mentally or medically challenged, the elderly _or people with HIV related health issues_, and the Beacon Program, inpatient and outpatient chemical dependency treatment for men. Also have Booth Program, targeted toward working individuals which allows men or women to stay for $7 per night, but can not be on any form of public assistance. You must be homeless to use the services. SALVATION ARMY Harvest Hills - permanent supportive housing program located in _Coon Rapids_ for families in which at least one member of the immediate household is considered homeless or is in need of affordable housing and is dual diagnosed. Dual diagnosis can vary from a physical or mental disability to chemical dependancy. Harvest Hills consists of eight, three bedroom apartments that are set up in four duplexes; a family must consist of at least 3 people. HOUSINGLINK: Can we say referral only to many of the links on this list isn't Minneapolis or AIDS specific. Duh. SALVATION ARMY H.O.P.E Harbor -This is the agency that Includes Harvest Hills Harbor Light Multi-Service Center. This is not a separate/different option. Indian Health
[Mpls] Hennepin County investigation of Horn Tower Incident
Investigation confirms officer, suspect killed each other Published Sep 30, 2002 MINNEAPOLIS - Investigators have determined that a Minneapolis police officer and a suspect killed each other in an exchange of gunfire at a public housing tower, Hennepin County Sheriff Pat McGowan said Monday, declaring the case closed. http://www.startribune.com/stories/568/3336495.html Investigation: Schmidt killed her assailant Pam Louwagie and Howie Padilla Star Tribune Published Oct 1, 2002 Minneapolis police officer Melissa Schmidt had been trained to control a situation, so when she couldn't see the hands of a 60-year-old woman she had escorted to an apartment building bathroom after a report the woman was armed, the officer reacted. http://www.startribune.com/stories/462/3336756.html Shawn Lewis, Field Neighborhood -- __ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] If you are anti-business, but pro-subsidies - who will pay the bills?
Minneapolis must strike a balance between the two. Each time you raise property taxes, housing becomes LESS affordable. We already owe $1.5 billion in debts. Our operating expenses last year exceeded our operating income by $237 million. We must recognize the difference between a public good and a public feel good. Vicky Heller Cedar-Riverside (work) North Oaks (home) ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Re: [Mpls] Clare Housing Affordable Housing Project and Bigotry in SaintAnthony East
As I mentioned in a previous post, the main concerns were: Trash/Parking (associated with the new tenants and the project) Property Value decrease GLBT folks with HIV movin' in. Those were the main and repeated themes. -Brandon Lacy -Powderhorn Park From: David Strand [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Mpls] Clare Housing Affordable Housing Project and Bigotry in Saint Anthony East Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 22:14:28 -0700 (PDT) I find it rather shocking that such discriminatory comments would be made in Minneapolis at such a meeting. It gives you some idea of what kinds of ugly sentiments may be lurking beneath the surface. Obviously for the center be blocked based on these sentiments would be illegal under federal, state, and municipal laws and ordinances. Still, I find it hard to fathom that the vote would be that slanted if the concerns were limited to the one's outlined here. Our perhaps I am merely naive and hopeful. Were there other concerns or issues raised at this meeting? Hopeful, David Strand Loring Park --- Brandon Lacy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello folks, Not to detract from this rousing beat down of council members who did or did not vote for the Iraq resolution, I thought I would direct your attention to a Minneapolis Issue of tragic implications. Recently, Clare Housing, a non-profit organization that builds affordable housing for people living with HIV/AIDS, purchased the King of Clubs on Central Avenue and Spring Street and the adjacent vacant lot (I believe that is the cross street). The intention of Clare Housing is to build a mixed income living space, with some units designated for low income folks and people living with HIV/AIDS. The building plan includes retail shopping space as well as ample green space, all of which were key pieces to SAE request for proposals. Two weeks ago, in an act of unmitigated bigotry, the Saint Anthony East Neighborhood Association (through the vehicle of its general membership) voted overwhelming to oppose the project. At the meeting (and at a previous meeting), the membership gave reasons ranging from not wanting faggots with HIV moving into the neighborhood to concerns about a rise in the amount of trash and parking that this project will certainly produce since there will be some low-income folks moving in. Others were worried about their property values (although they agreed with the project in theory...more of the not in my backyard syndrome). One elderly woman even stood up to say that she would prefer a Wendy's in that space because Wendy's provides healthy fast food not available at some other places (such as baked potatos). I am aware that Clare Housing has not been completely shut out. The MCDA and the housing authority will make the final decisions on whether or not to issue the permits allowing Clare Housing to build on the space. But, the vote fell along lines of 82 to 9 against the project. It will take a tough moral and ethical stand from Paul Ostrow to come down against this hate filled act. This entire situation again reminded me that not everyone is welcome in Minneapolis. It is particularly disturbing that this took place in North East Minneapolis, my childhood turf. I hope that Paul Ostrow will use his better judgement and stand up for right instead of the bigotry and hate so gleefully espoused by some of his constiuents. I also encourage the mayor and other Council members who will be part of the decision-making process surrounding the Clare Housing development project to back this well financed, well planned, and much needed development project. _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls __ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] False Posting Regarding Housing for HIV/AIDS Positives
Again, Ms. Heller is attempting to post misleading information and information she has most obviously not researched. For example, the Minnesota Men of Color is an HIV/STD prevention program for gay, bi, and transgender men of color. The program does not run any sort of housing program. I know, I'm a former employee of the MN Men of Color. What the program will do is help an individual who may be homeless get connected with one of the other support services in town (which are consistently full). The same goes with the Indigenous Peoples Task Force, they also do not run a housing program but help Indigenous people living with HIV get connected with housing projects, SUCH AS THE PROJECT BEING DESIGNED BY CLARE HOUSING. The same goes for the Minnesota AIDS Project, ProjectOffstreets, El Centro, Alliance for the Streets, Indian Health Board, Pillsbury United Communities, and Turning Point (Turning Point is a drug/alcohol rehabilitation program that runs transitional housing for its program participants). And of the remaining programs most of them do not provide permanent housing, some provide permanent housing but are not specifically designed for people living with HIV/AIDS, and some are specific to demographic groups (such as the Bridge). I am sickened by the attempts to use misleading information to attack the need for this important project. Please, if one is going to attack the project let it be based on factual information. Or at the very least, make sure that folks on the list are actually gullible enough to fall for anything tossed at them. Especially when some of us have worked for the organizations that have been listed to try and debunk the need for this important project. -Brandon Lacy Campos -Powderhorn Park _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] Minneapolis news in the Pioneer Press
MINNEAPOLIS: Neighborhood adrift( BY JUDITH YATES BORGER, Pioneer Press, 10/01/2002 03:01 AM CDT) Judith Yates BorgerStaff ReporterMinneapolis BureauSt. Paul Pioneer Press612 338-8198Cell: 651 503-0162
[Mpls] Which Way for Central Avenue?
The Holland neighborhood's meeting on the Cub proposal two weeks ago attracted over 100 neighborhood attendees. A straw poll conducted at the end of the meeting resulted in well over 90% of the attendees indicating that they do not want a Cub Foods at this location on Central AT ALL. However, project proponents, including some city officials, appear to be trying to portray the growing opposition to this proposal as merely some concerns regarding traffic congestion and noise which can be mitigated by tweaking the design of the store. In reality, we are talking about two fundamentally different visions regarding the future of Central Avenue: One is to preserve its historic urban Main Street appearance as it evolves into an increasingly vibrant community of new and existing housing and small independent businesses. In many ways Central is starting to become another mini-Eat Street featuring a variety of ethnic restaurants, shops, and services. Many recent and upcoming developments around Central are supportive of this vision. Examples include the Holy Land expansion, VOA housing/commercial proposal for 19th and Central, the Patel development, and the New Holland Townhomes, along with a variety of art spaces and new restaurants. A key component of this vision could be the community-owned Eastside Food Co-op, intended to meet many of the recognized needs for a full-service grocery store on Central Avenue. Allowing Central to fill up with big box retailing, generic mega-stores, national fast food franchises, and strip malls would represent a very different vision-one that would strip the Avenue of its uniqueness and historical appeal and turn it into just one more generic strip of corporate chain stores. These are competing--not complementary-visions. There is little evidence to support the idea that big box chain stores help neighboring small retailers. In many ways they do the opposite, increasing a sense of isolation and alienation as people drive into huge parking lots, shop, get back in their cars and leave. Take a look at the urban areas around the big box stores along University Avenue in St. Paul, the Target on West Broadway, Rainbow in Columbia Heights, or the K-Mart/Super Value at Nicollet/Lake. These are not friendly inviting urban streetscapes, especially at night. In contrast, look at those urban streets that do have a sense of community-Nicollet's Eat Street, Grand Avenue in St. Paul, East Hennepin/St. Anthony, or Central in the vicinity of the Heights Theatre. All are remarkably free of generic big box retailers. At this point Central Avenue is already on the upswing and more and more people are realizing what a unique asset it is-one of the few major urban thoroughfares in Minneapolis that retains a historic feel and hasn't been stripmalled. The city-approved Central Avenue Plan is based on the premise, widely accepted by most engaged community members, that future development on Central Avenue should strive to retain a pedestrian-friendly vibrant urban streetscape promoting local businesses and improved housing. Should Cub prevail we can expect other similar types of development to follow. Last year Walgreen's explored buying up and leveling most of a whole block at Central/Lowry in order to build a larger store with attached drive-through. (Thankfully, that proposal appears to already be derailed due to neighborhood opposition and zoning conflicts). If the whole US Bank site on Central is available for development, what is needed is a community dialogue about how this should occur. A variety of options should be on the table. There may well be the opportunity to develop a substantial amount of new housing and commercial space there in a way that would much better meet community needs than would a Cub Foods. This shouldn't be so difficult--the Holland Neighborhood has already developed a good relationship with US Bank through the development of the New Holland Townhomes on land that was provided by US Bank. I am puzzled why CM Ostrow and perhaps others are seemingly so supportive of the Cub proposal. It is likely to require a big city subsidy for the parking ramp and to replace the housing that would be lost. I thought this had become a discredited model of late--city subsidies for developments that end up with little or no net gain in affordable housing, tearing down existing housing to build new housing...accommodating big box chain stores at the expense of local ambiance. Where is the learning process? It is sort of depressing how much time has to be spent fighting bad development proposals rather than in working for positive community-supportive development here in Northeast. Bruce Shoemaker Holland Neighborhood ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] Pi-Press on Jordan, The City $250 per bag for trash pick-up?
Judy Borger has an interesting story on the Jordan neighborhood in today's Pi-Press. Here's the link: http://www.twincities.com/mld/pioneerpress/4185177.htm She made some excellent points about how this neighborhood is in political limbo. Current council member is Joe Biernat, still seeming pretty much AWOL while he hashes out his legal status. And because of re-districting, the neighborhood is about to move over to Natalie Johnson-Lee's 5th ward, but it's not there yet. But what caught my eye was $25,000 from the county going to Spike Moss and his organization, The City, Inc. to pick up trash. Which apparently resulted in 90 to 100 bags of trash being collected. The Jordan neighbors interviewed weren't too pleased about all this---wanted to know who really got this $25,000 and what they would get for it. There were the usual mixed comments about The City, Inc and Spike. I quote from the story: Spike Moss, a City Inc. activist who oversaw the project, said a crew of 50 young men between 15 and 25 years old worked after school and all day on a Saturday to clean up. The $25,000 had all been spent by last week, with $15 an hour going to supervisors and $7.50 an hour to workers.We were working all over the community, said Moss, who declined to be more specific. County planning manager John McLaughlin, who administers the grant to The City Inc., confirmed that the county hauled away 90 to 100 bags of trash from the parking lot of The City Inc., which is several blocks from the Jordan neighborhood. I can confirm that we hauled the trash away. I can't verify where it came from, said McLaughlin, who added, $25,000 is not a big thing. Lynnell again: I don't know much about Spike Moss or The City and I don't have a dog in that fight. But IF the $25,000 was for a one-time trash sweep that resulted in 100 bagsthat's $250 per bag. And if this is true, all I can say is, let me collect trash at that rate I'll be over there in a nano-second. So would a lot of other people I know. Also, how could 50 young men work all day and collect only two bags of trash each? Great story, as usual, by Pi-Press Judy Borger, who along with Steve Brandt from the Strib and a few others, is one of my favorite intrepid city reporters. (I mean, holy cow, she actually gets out of the office and talks to people in the neighborhoods, imagine that ) The people of Jordan, once again, have my condolences and empathy. Talk about a group of people getting kicked around while they're already down. It ain't fair. Lynnell Mickelsen Ward 13 -- ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Re: [Mpls] Which Way for Central Avenue?
A key component of this vision could be the community-owned Eastside Food Co-op, intended to meet many of the recognized needs for a full-service grocery store on Central Avenue. Bruce, I'd love to see your little food co-op flower in Nordeast. But working class folks like me can't afford their prices. I live in the Northside and work in Nordeast- why should I have to drive to Robbinsdale or New Brighton to buy food at reasonable prices? We need some competition in the retail food market in the north half of the city, and Cub will provide that. The proposed site has it's problems, but their are several other good sites available where CUB can locate with minimum impact. from Hawthorne, the illegal drug supermarket... Dyna Sluyter -- ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] I-35W War in our neighborhoods
Message: 12 Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2002 06:17:46 -0500 From: ken avidor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks Ken - I agree with you whole-heartedly. It's very apparent that Peter McLaughlin has hired guns in the form Smith Parker to do the dirty work required to make good on his promise of access to the businesses. Don't miss this week's edition of Pulse, I understand Ed Felien got someone who heard McLaughlin telling Belton Herron about his promise (and ask for their help) to go on the record for Pulse - should be an enlightening article! David Piehl Central Ken Avidor wrote: Subject: [Mpls] 35W- The War in our Neighborhoods Speaking of war When I was at the 35W Access Project meeting last Tuesday, I met with some of the homeowners and small business people who are against the expansion of 35W and the widening of Lake Street. I asked one businesswoman what the process felt like and she told me It feels like war. People who live and own property next to an expanding highway project like 35W are in constant danger of becoming collateral damage. Passing resolutions against wars in far off places is fine, but what about the war here in the neighborhoods to save homes, livelihoods and our environment? Our elected officials have have chosen to be partners with the very people who want to pave over neighborhood opposition to expanding 35W. Look at the list of partners on the Midtown Community Works: http://www.midtowncommunityworks.org/themcwpartnershi.html .now look at who the contact for MCW is: http://www.midtowncommunityworks.org/contactus.html Who is Smith Parker and who do they represent? Look here : http://www.smithparker.com/selclients.html Who is the Project Manager for the 35W Access Project? Tom Johnson. Read his bio here: http://www.smithparker.com/johnson.html ...quoting from that bio: ( Johnson ).As Deputy Chairman at the Minnesota Waste Management Board, he managed the media and public affairs work that led to the selection of locations for two hazardous waste management facilities. Elected officials who profess to be for the environment and socialjustice should not be partners of a law firm or lobbyist that boasts ofpaving over neighborhood opposition to hazardous waste facilities . Elected officials who profess to be for the environment and social justice should join with us in opposing the 35W Access Project. Ken Avidor STRIDE Kingfield __ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] Affordable housing shortage?
I have to agree with Victoria Heller and Michael Atherton on the affordable housing shortage being nearly over, if not entirely over. My neighbor has had a terrible time finding a renter for a beautiful 2 bedroom loft, for $700/month. He also has a great 1 bedroom for $500/month. A year ago he was able to rent these units for substantially more, but with all of the new units coming on line in the city, vacancy rates and prices are affected. I think it's important learning for all of us that the affordable housing shortage has been addressed primarily by the private sector building luxury market-rate units, rather than heavily subsidized affordable housing. Clearly, it's a supply and demand issue - the more housing available, the lower the overall price - and market rate housing affects total supply just as below market rate housing, but without (generally) public subsidy. Dedicated housing, such as senior, handicapped, aids, or otherwise is a completely different equation, though, and I believe (with no facts) that there probably is more need than availability based on the waiting lists that exist. David Piehl Central __ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] It's official Brookfield stiffed us.
The deal is done. Brookfield stiffed us. Are there any deals in the works with city tax money that does not have a lock on the family jewels for collateral? What fall 2002 deal is going to haunt us years from now because we failed to do our job as a lender? Craig Miller Former Fultonite [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Re: [Mpls] Which Way for Central Avenue?
- Original Message - From: B. Shoe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Mpls] Which Way for Central Avenue? The Holland neighborhood's meeting on the Cub proposal two weeks ago attracted over 100 neighborhood attendees. A straw poll conducted at the end of the meeting resulted in well over 90% of the attendees indicating that they do not want a Cub Foods at this location on Central AT ALL. However, project proponents, including some city officials, appear to be trying to portray the growing opposition to this proposal as merely some concerns regarding traffic congestion and noise which can be mitigated by tweaking the design of the store. Bruce Shoemaker Holland Neighborhood CM Bruce is right. Central is making the long awaited comeback. Look to what KMART did for Nicollet. Cub can achieve that and more for Central. Craig Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Former Fultonite ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Re: [Mpls] Which Way for Central Avenue?
B. Shoe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The city-approved Central Avenue Plan is based on the premise, widely accepted by most engaged community members, that future development on Central Avenue should strive to retain a pedestrian-friendly vibrant urban streetscape promoting local businesses and improved housing. Sheila writes: My sister now lives in NE and I enjoy driving up Johnson and Central and seeing what shops and restaurants are there. I really do cran my neck to see and even ask my sister, 'Have you tried that place?' So my vote from south Minneapolis is: NO on Cub, more small stores and restaurants and I'll come up and spend money. I'm making my list now. Sheila Cracraft Fehler Standish, watching the rails go down for LRT! ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls __ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] New Central Library
The designs and models for the new downtown Central Library were unveiled over lunch hour, to a crowd of several hundred city and regional residents. Applause and smiles were abundant! Cesar Pelli Associates, Architectural Alliance and Michaels Associates, along with the Library Board of Trustees all deserve credit for bringing area residents a truly remarkable new library facility in the heart of downtown Minneapolis. It will surely be a destination for area residents and visitors alike. I particularly like the extensive use of clear and opaque exterior glass walls that open the inside to the outdoors, while bringing the outside in, regardless of season. Check the pictures already posted by the list manager, and I'm sure all local news sources will carry extensive coverage over the next couple of days. I'm excited! Michael Hohmann Linden Hills ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Re: [Mpls] Which Way for Central Avenue?
--- dyna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bruce, I'd love to see your little food co-op flower in Nordeast. But working class folks like me can't afford their prices. I live in the Northside and work in Nordeast- why should I have to drive to Robbinsdale or New Brighton to buy food at reasonable prices? You don't. Depending on whether you work in upper, middle or lower Northeast, there is a Rainbow just over the border in Columbia Heights, a Rainbow just off Johnson St north of I35 in the Quarry (Dziedzic Dale), a store called Sentryz on 2nd St NE between Broadway and Lowry, and if you work closer to Southeast a grocery in Eastgate on Central and University. There are plenty of choices without messing up the uniqueness of Central Ave in the process. Loki Anderson Marshall Terrace [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Let's drink to the hard working people Let's think of the lowly of birth Spare a thought for the rag taggy people Let's drink to the salt of the earth. - the Rolling Stones __ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] Redistricting Case Status
Anybody out there in list land know what is happening with the redistricting lawsuit that was filed or is pretty much over with. Just curious. Scott Persons Lyndale Neighborhood Ward 8 (now)/10 (when the next election is held) ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] New Central Library schematic design: web link
Take a look: New central library design unveiled today http://www.mplib.org/ncl_design.asp ** Betty Tisel Newsletter Editor Rainbow Families (612) 827-3109 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rainbow Families 711 West Lake Street (at Lyndale) Suite 210 Minneapolis, MN 55408 (612) 827-7731 (612) 822-2759 FAX [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.rainbowfamilies.org Rainbow Families provides support, information, and advocacy for lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender parents and their children in the Upper Midwest, serving more than 1500 families. Rainbow Families is working to create a world that is safe, just, and affirming for our children. ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
RE: [Mpls] Redistricting Case Status
The article in today's Pioneer Press re the Jordon neighborhood said the case is not scheduled to go to trial until 2004. Bill Dooley Kenny -Original Message- From: Scott Persons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 2:36 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: [Mpls] Redistricting Case Status Anybody out there in list land know what is happening with the redistricting lawsuit that was filed or is pretty much over with. Just curious. Scott Persons Lyndale Neighborhood Ward 8 (now)/10 (when the next election is held) ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Re: [Mpls] Pi-Press on Jordan, The City $250 per bag for trash pick-up?
Great post Lynnell. I live scant blocks from the Jordan neighborhood myself. The City, Inc. is less than six blocks from my house. But, the difference between Powderhorn and Corocran versus Jordan and Phillips is nothing short of mind-boggling. These four neighborhoods are blocks from each other, but if you are living in Powderhorn/Corcoran versus Phillips/Jordan, the differences are something akin to Tijuana versus San Diego. Lake Street is a very real dividing line. I'm actually very curious as to how much longer it will be before we have some of the community flare ups in Jordan and Phillips like the ones that took place recently on the North side. There is a concept in political science called relative deprivation. For those of you that haven't taken a poly sci class, or haven't in a while, relative deprivation is the measurement of the real value of what a population has versus what a population believes it should have. When the value of what a community believes it should have outpaces that which the community actually has, tension rises eventually resulting in some sort of action that is usually violent. With such a visible contrast between the neighorhoods on the North side of Lake Street versus the neigbhorhoods on the South side of Lake Street, I'd imagine an explosion any day now. And Jordan should have safe streets, a clean community, community control over resources, and a representative in City Hall that actually cares about his constiuency. -Brandon Lacy Campos -Powderhorn Park _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] Dear Peter McLaughlin
Dear Peter, As I'm sure you know, Hennepin County sponsored a public meeting last Tuesday of the Project Advisory Committee that will be making recommendations to the Hennepin County Board and the Minneapolis City Council regarding changes to Interstate 35 at the Lake Street interchange. Some of those changes are past due, moving the 35th Street/36th Street entrance and exit to 38th Street, to eliminate the dangerous cross weaving of vehicles entering the system at 31st Street that makes that intersection so dangerous. But most of the rest are troublesome. The entrance proposed at Lake Street to go North would create the same kind of cross weaving we've just eliminated, as would the exit from Southbound 35W onto Lake Street. Also, most traffic going North would probably be using the freeway for a short trip to downtown. Do we want the freeway system used for trips of just one mile or so? Repaving Lake Street will be a welcome change, but widening the street to 8 lanes doesn't seem to make sense, given that traffic levels have actually declined on Lake Street in the last ten years. The most controversial proposal for the modification would be the addition of a flyover lane that would allow traffic coming from the South and exiting at Lake Street to fly over Lake Street and dump onto 28th Street. My understanding is that this is your proposal so that employees and visitors to Wells Fargo and Allina would not have to see the neighborhood at 31st Street and 2nd Avenue. My further understanding is that this is a $40+ million avoidance plan. It seems a rather silly boondoggle. I have written a piece on this for tomorrow's Pulse. I would appreciate it if you would look it over and comment on it. We plan on reprinting it in the Phillips/Powderhorn edition of Southside Pride. Best wishes, Ed Felien Big changes for 35W By Ed Felien ³I promised Wells Fargo we¹d give them a flyover lane to 28th Street if they bought the Honeywell campus,² said Hennepin County Commissioner Peter McLaughlin, according to Tom McGreevy, the owner and manager of Pearle Vision on Lake Street. ³This was at a meeting last year with Sharon Sayles Belton and Brian Herron and some neighborhood businessmen,² McGreevy said. The flyover lane is certainly the most controversial aspect of the 35W improvements. The need to improve that section of 35W became apparent when traffic engineers finally appreciated how dangerous it was to enter 35W at 31st Street with traffic trying to exit at 35th Street. The cross weaving of traffic at 55 mph seemed like a catastrophe waiting to happen. So, it was decided to move the entrance and exit ramps from 35th and 36th Streets to 38th Street. This would eliminate probably the most dangerous section of Interstate 35 from Duluth to Texas. There was some grumbling about the changes that would happen at 38th Street, but, generally, everyone agreed to it. Then, certain other changes were proposed, and these became increasingly controversial. Some businesses had wanted an entrance ramp to go north at Lake Street to go downtown and to connect to West Bound 94. There were sound reasons there were no entrance and exit ramps to and from downtown at Lake Street in the original plan. It was felt that local traffic could feed into downtown. There were entrance ramps to West 94 at 15th Street and to East 94 and North 35W at Franklin Avenue that effectively bypassed downtown and, thereby, cut down on congestion. Also, it was considered extremely dangerous to put an entrance and exit ramp on a curve in the freeway, when much of the traffic would be wanting to exit. But some Lake Street businessmen said they felt some of their customers might be coming from north of downtown and couldn¹t easily get off the freeway system at Lake Street. And major employers in the area wanted the ramps for easy access for their employees. The resulting plan may become quite dangerous as cars entering 35W at Lake Street try to move over two or three lanes in fast moving traffic to exit to westbound 94 in less than a mile. Also, most people who use the Lake Street entrance will probably be using it to get downtown. It has, up to now, not been sound freeway design policy to encourage trips of less than a mile on the interstate system. Do we want to clog the system with this kind of short-term traffic? Trying to exit off 35W onto Lake Street might be just as trickyon a curve, going 55 mph, weaving with traffic that has just entered 35W from 94 East. Some people think this entrance/exit combination should be a sure winner for the most efficient plan for creating motor vehicle accidents since the 31st Street/35th Street combination. The Project Advisory Committee making these proposals has been meeting for almost four years. It is a Committee heavily weighted in favor of institutions (like Allina and Honeywell) and businesses. But neighborhood organizations are also represented and could present a balance to the
[Mpls] 26th and Hiawatha
How does one go about complaining about aserious traffic hazard? Heading east on 26th Avenue South across Hiawatha is now a nightmare because it goes from 2 lanes to 1 lane without any warning or indication that it narrowed. They put in a cement median strip on the East side which narrows it and I have almost been run into a number of times by people who don't realize it's there until the last minute. Anyone have any ideas what's going on and how to get it fixed? Diane Wiley who drives from Powderhorn to Seward School every day
RE: [Mpls] 26th and Hiawatha
I second Diane Wiley on this one. And when the driver in the lane beside me swerves to miss the median, I'm not insulated by a large steel cage... I suppose MNDOT (or whoever is responsible) figured we need more opportunities to create dead bicyclists in Minneapolis. This irresponsible traffic design seems far worse if you view it in the context of other recent changes to Hiawatha. 28th no longer crosses. Lake and Hiawatha, as Ed Felien has pointed out, is extremely, ridiculously dangerous by bicycle. Cedar looks like an option for crossing, until you realize that Cedar is a no-shoulder road - I've been harassed by motorists more times on that street than any other - and that Eva is correct in her assessment of the Hiawatha/Cedar intersection. It's insane, especially at rush hour. You begin to see Hwy 55 as a bicyclist does: a moat between one part of south Minneapolis and another. Sure, you can cross it. Just mind the sharks. Robin Garwood Seward -Original Message- From: Diane Wiley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 2:23 PM To: Minneapolis Forum Subject: [Mpls] 26th and Hiawatha How does one go about complaining about a serious traffic hazard? Heading east on 26th Avenue South across Hiawatha is now a nightmare because it goes from 2 lanes to 1 lane without any warning or indication that it narrowed. They put in a cement median strip on the East side which narrows it and I have almost been run into a number of times by people who don't realize it's there until the last minute. Anyone have any ideas what's going on and how to get it fixed? Diane Wiley who drives from Powderhorn to Seward School every day ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Re: [Mpls] New Central Library schematic design: web link
How disappointingly predictable: another glass box. Ann Berget Kingfield
RE: [Mpls] New Central Library schematic design: web link
Ann Berget says: How disappointingly predictable: another glass box. [TB] I had heard for years that one of the problems of the old library was all the windows as the sunlight is damaging to the books. This came from a member of the Library Board. What has happened that gives us a library with more glass to let in the sunlight that damages the books? Terrell Brown Loring Park terrell at terrellbrown dot org __ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] Better library comment link
This one is a better place to leave comments, according to the library folks: http://www.mplib.org/yourideas.asp David Brauer List manager Handled more links than Jimmy Dean! ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Re: [Mpls] 26th and Hiawatha
Many aspects of Hiawatha were a HUGE mistake as far as I am concerned. There's spaghetti junction in trying to get under Hiawatha from the West side to the East side. The conversion of 26th st. that crosses 28th st. etc. It's a nightmare. I would hate to be someone in a wheel chair trying to manuever that. Hiawatha is exactly the reason so many of us who live by 35W are suspect of the proposed project over here. The same group collaborated to do Hiawatha and it wasn't that long ago. It's scary to think about what we could end up with. It's one thing to see it on paper. Quite another to see it full life in cement. We all know you get promised fountains and the Arch de Triumphe in the presentations and when bills start coming in you end up with cement block. Buyer beware. Barb Lickness Whittier = Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it's the only thing that ever has. -- Margaret Mead __ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Re: [Mpls] Pi-Press on Jordan, The City $250 per bag for trash pick-up?
Brandon, the City Council people who represent North of Lake Street are Dean Zimmerman, Robert Lillegren and Gary Shiff. I believe each of the three care a great deal about their community. All three are New to the job, but have already started to make a difference. Two of these people represent south of Lake Street. Nne of them is your own City Council representative; Gary Shift. Though Jordan is on the North-side of Minneapolis you are correct about the relative deprivation of the area and neighborhoods just north of Lake Street in comparison to Powderhorn and Corcoran. Not in housing stock - the housing stock in Phillips and in particular Ventura Village is at least comparable to Powderhorn and probably superior to the more working class single-family bungalows in Corcoran. The deprivation is in City of Minneapolis services and Public Safety. The City of Minneapolis has attempted to concentrate crime and drug dealing, housing for level three sex offenders, and supportive housing in this area. At least one Police official publicly, and candidly admitted this concentration effort during a Ventura Village meeting this year. He said he had participated in an organized effort to drive drug dealers out of Whittier into Phillips and the effort to contain them in Phillips. Approximately six years ago the area around Franklin Avenue and the Phillips Neighborhood requested designation as a Federal Disaster Area due to the endemic drug dealing, the murder of children, and the collateral blight associated with the crime and violence. When Robert Olson initiated Code Four, it began with a concentrated police effort along Franklin Avenue. Residents of Powderhorn and Corcoran came to public meetings and demanded that this effort stop because it was pushing Phillip's drug dealers into good neighborhoods. We wondered at the time if such drug dealers had Phillips tattooed on their forehead. There was enough political pressure for these good neighborhoods to successfully stop proactive policing in Phillips. So there clearly is relative deprivation compared to those more affluent and white neighborhoods. This is not just a perception however; even drug dealers comment that they are only bothered if they try to go south of Lake Street or over the bridge into Whittier. Brandon, after apparently taking a poly-sci class, define relative deprivation as: For those of you that haven't taken a poly sci class, or haven't in a while, relative deprivation is the measurement of the real value of what a population has versus what a population believes it should have. When the value of what a community believes it should have outpaces that which the community actually has, tension rises eventually resulting in some sort of action that is usually violent. With such a visible contrast between the neighorhoods on the North side of Lake Street versus the neigbhorhoods on the South side of Lake Street, I'd imagine an explosion any day now. It is the education of most residents that has caused the problem. Civics class, government classes, and even citizenship classes have lead people to believe that they have Constitutional Rights to Equal Protection Under The Law. Believing this popular myth does cause a great deal of cognitive dissonance for some and create Relative deprivation as Brandon says. I know it infuriates me to think my people and friends are of such little value that they are merely pawns for downtown's efforts to create large-scale development. Most of us have been so enraged that we were willing to take on the City Hall in addition to the drug dealers to change our neighborhoods. We do have to wonder though, if as we put even more pressure on and displace drug dealers, those good friends in our neighboring neighborhoods to the south are again going to be once again exerting POLITICAL power to make the politicians stop and keep the drug dealers bottled up in our community. RT Rybak announced his candidacy from Ventura Village Market at the corner of Franklin Avenue and Chicago Avenue; he also held his first news conference, the morning after his and our victory, from that same place. At those news conferences and at the City DFL convention RT promised that with him elected the Phillips people would no longer be the forgotten orphans of Minneapolis. Since RT's mother ran a drug store from that same building after his father died when he was growing up we tend to believe him. We still believe RT, so we have great expectations about the changes that are going on and the ones to come. We in fact are so Mad about our past treatment, that it has motivated us to change the city with new regulatory and zoning changes. Changes that will benefit the entire City. I also must admit that since we believe we deserve to benefit from our hard work and sacrifice, if we do not you will see some truly OUTRAGED people. An example of this can be seen with our fight for affordable housing. We in Ventura Village
[Mpls] LAWN SIGNS
Doug Mann now has lawn signs for his school board race and he's not afraid to use them. An eye-catching fire engine red with large white letters (Doug Mann for School Board Education is a Right), they make an attractive addition to any lawn either standing alone or complementing the signs of other worthy candidates. Be the first mann (or woman) on your block to get one! Call 612 822-3776 or email [EMAIL PROTECTED] (a $3 donation optional but appreciated - delivery included). Linda Mann Kingfield ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Re: [Mpls] New Central Library schematic design: web link
I still like the original: http://collections.mnhs.org/visualresources/image.cfm?imageid=85803RecCount=140 http://collections.mnhs.org/visualresources/image.cfm?imageid=85375RecCount=140 richard carney st. paul (fan of old buildings) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How disappointingly predictable: another glass box. Ann Berget Kingfield ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] Which Way for Central Avenue?
--- dyna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bruce, I'd love to see your little food co-op flower in Nordeast. But working class folks like me can't afford their prices. I live in the Northside and work in Nordeast- why should I have to drive to Robbinsdale or New Brighton to buy food at reasonable prices? Hey, now--I'm so working class I actually work at a food co-op in what's perceived as one of the spendiest neighborhoods in town. And I do nearly all my grocery shopping there, on my teeny little budget. Food cooperatives were started with the idea of bringing good food to people at reasonable prices, and that's still what they're about. When I was a kid on the Iron Range, the grocery store we shopped at was The Co-op (pronounced kwap)--started in the 1930s by iron miners who wanted an alternative to the company store, and the one I work at now is really no different--owned by the people who shop there rather than by any outside entity. We've got kind of a skewed view of food co-ops here in Minneapolis--where once upon a time, there were more than twenty of them, and all of them purveyors of organic and natural foods. Twenty or thirty years ago, there was a significant price difference between organic and the mega-farmed alternative. The cost of organics is much more moderate now, especially since people are beginning to realize that what you don't pay now in food costs, you may pay later in medical bills, or at least we'll all wind up paying in environmental costs--and so the demand for organics grows. My husband and I eat quite well on a pretty miniscule budget. Bulk rice is 49 cents a pound, and this month anyway, the best heirloom tomatoes around are free (in my backyard garden). If you want lessons on how to eat like royalty on next-to-no money, talk to my husband (also the local expert on fine wines under ten bucks). The prices at big box grocers like Cub on comparable items are consistently higher than prices on the exact same items at the Wedge, Seward, and Linden Hills Co-ops. I know because I check the prices in the Sunday circulars every week. The Eastside Co-op represents a community-driven, locally-owned, human-scale option for Central Avenue. It's growing organically in the other sense of the word. And I'm willing to bet their food will be reasonably priced to boot! Jeanne Lakso Kingfield ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Re: [Mpls] LAWN SIGNS
My lawn signs actually say Education is a Right MANN for School Board I also just printed a new half-sheet flyer and decluttered my home page a bit. -Doug Mann Mann for School Board http://educationright.tripod.com In a message dated 10/1/2002 6:24:23 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Doug Mann now has lawn signs for his school board race and he's not afraid to use them. An eye-catching fire engine red with large white letters (Doug Mann for School Board Education is a Right), they make an attractive addition to any lawn either standing alone or complementing the signs of other worthy candidates. Be the first mann (or woman) on your block to get one! Call 612 822-3776 or email [EMAIL PROTECTED] (a $3 donation optional but appreciated - delivery included). ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Re: [Mpls] New Central Library images released
I have to ask why in Minnesota where the temperature gets and stays below zero for a week or two every winter and stays below 32 F. almost all winter, we are building a glass public building. We'll be paying the heat bill on this thing and I don't even want to contemplate those figures. WizardMarks, Central List Manager wrote: View 'em and react... http://www.startribune.com/images/ss/600_0.html (pictures) http://www.startribune.com/stories/462/3338341.html (first-blush story) David Brauer List manager ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Re: [Mpls] Response to Eddie Felien post
At 07:41 PM 10/01/2002 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eddie, since you've chosen to ask me on the list for a response to your article, I'll respond in kind. 1. I have never made the statement that you attributed to me in your proposed article, nor anything resembling it. snip 3. As you know. the current planning process started in 1997, long before Honeywell was for sale (1999). The initial access study was presented in January of 1998. It recommended the flyover ramp, while there was still no indication that Honeywell was leaving. To suggest that I then got Wells Fargo to make a multi-million dollar purchase based on an access ramp is absurd. I wish I had that much influence over private capital investments. 4. I demand that you remove from the article the statement that you attribute to me. It is false. I never said it. snip For you to use your byline and wrongly attribute a quote to me falls below the standards of good community journalism. == Peter, the article states this: ³I promised Wells Fargo we¹d give them a flyover lane to 28th Street if they bought the Honeywell campus,² said Hennepin County Commissioner Peter McLaughlin, according to Tom McGreevy, the owner and manager of Pearle Vision on Lake Street. ³This was at a meeting last year with Sharon Sayles Belton and Brian Herron and some neighborhood businessmen,² McGreevy said. EY: Not an anonymous source -- a person who went on the record with his recollection that Peter McLaughlin made this statement. PM continues: Eddie, I welcome you to the discussion of community issues either as a candidate (even running against me) or as a community journalist, but not as both at the same time. By blurring these lines you do a disservice to yourself and the community. Peter McLaughlin Peter, I am glad you post this response to the list. I hope you plan to address the other issues Eddie and others have asked you on this list? Mike Opat quickly did so. Perhaps Mr. McLaughlin can comment on why the County paid Spike Moss and the City Inc $25,000 to do trash pickup in Jordan? Eva Eva Young Near North Minneapolis You do not have the right to never be offended. This country is based on freedom, and that means freedom for everyone - not just you! You may leave the room, turn the channel, express a different opinion, etc., but the world is full of idiots, and probably always will be. --Article II of the Bill of Non-Rights. ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Re: [Mpls] New Central Library--oops forgot to sign
Opps--forgot to sign How disappointingly predictable: another glass box. Ann Berget Kingfield Actually, it is far from a glass box. The central atrium will be a great public space. The mixture of textures on the exterior (including Kasota (Minnesota) Stone(Norwest Tower material), the roof of the atrium, the planitarium all make it much more than a glass box. For the clear glass (it will have a mixture of clear glass, patterned glass, opaque glass, and solid panels) will be low-iron very transparent glass. There are now examples of this type of glass in Minneapolis buildings that the architects know of so it is hard to describe. It is just very clear! (there will have to be some creative work on sun shielding for heat and light control). I think it strikes a good balance between extreme modern architecture (New Guthrie, Wiesman (sp?) and overly traditional like Gavide (sp?) Common, and industrial commercial (Convention Center). It meets the limitations well-- a small site, five to six story building, and works well as a library and center of the community. . sheldon mains, seward neighborhood, minneapolis [EMAIL PROTECTED] the shameless agitator in the electronic town square ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Re: [Mpls] Response to Eddie Felien post
Dear Commissioner McLaughlin, it is nice to see you attempting to respond to Ed Felien's questions. However, you have not responded to the questions that I sent to you and this list 11 days ago. In case you missed them, please answer the questions below: 1) Why have you appeared to consistently support public funding for a = private sports stadium? 2) What was your role in the decision to have Highway 55 fly over Lake = Street while causing a much larger delay in the traffic lights at that = intersection? =20 3) Why did you sign your names as one of the co-authors of an op-ed = piece in the Star Tribune on March 27, 2001, in which you appeared to = denounce the Minnesota Attorney General's investigation of Allina Health = System's unethical practices? 4) How do you justify your consistent past support for the Highway 55 = reroute near the Mississippi river which was destructive to the = environment, the community, Native American culture, and has actually = led to more rather than less traffic? 5) How do you compare or distinguish your political agenda from your = allies in the city of Mineapolis' DFL leadership who were defeated in = last year's elections? . Jordan Kushner recent constituent ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] Response to Eddie Felien post
Eddie, since you've chosen to ask me on the list for a response to your article, I'll respond in kind. 1. I have never made the statement that you attributed to me in your proposed article, nor anything resembling it. 2. I have been involved for a number of years in discussions about expanding access to 35W at Lake Street, a topic that has been discussed in the community since 35W was built. I have made no deals and do not apologize in any way for exploring the potential for better access to and from south Minneapolis for residents and workers. I continue to hope that a solution that includes improved access can be worked out in the community planning process that continues today. 3. As you know. the current planning process started in 1997, long before Honeywell was for sale (1999). The initial access study was presented in January of 1998. It recommended the flyover ramp, while there was still no indication that Honeywell was leaving. To suggest that I then got Wells Fargo to make a multi-million dollar purchase based on an access ramp is absurd. I wish I had that much influence over private capital investments. 4. I demand that you remove from the article the statement that you attribute to me. It is false. I never said it. 5. When you announced your intention to run against me, you published a front-page commitment in your papers not to unfairly editorialize against me. For you to use your byline and wrongly attribute a quote to me falls below the standards of good community journalism. 6. Finally, I repeat my demand that you remove the quote attributed to me and present in all of your papers a fair and accurate representation of the facts regarding this and all matters between now and the election. Eddie, I welcome you to the discussion of community issues either as a candidate (even running against me) or as a community journalist, but not as both at the same time. By blurring these lines you do a disservice to yourself and the community. Peter McLaughlin ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Re: [Mpls] New Central Library schematic design: web link
How disappointingly predictable: another glass box. Ann Berget Kingfield Actually, it is far from a glass box. The central atrium will be a great public space. The mixture of textures on the exterior (including Kasota (Minnesota) Stone(Norwest Tower material), the roof of the atrium, the planitarium all make it much more than a glass box. For the clear glass (it will have a mixture of clear glass, patterned glass, opaque glass, and solid panels) will be low-iron very transparent glass. There are now examples of this type of glass in Minneapolis buildings that the architects know of so it is hard to describe. It is just very clear! (there will have to be some creative work on sun shielding for heat and light control). I think it strikes a good balance between extreme modern architecture (New Guthrie, Wiesman (sp?) and overly traditional like Gavide (sp?) Common, and industrial commercial (Convention Center). It meets the limitations well-- a small site, five to six story building, and works well as a library and center of the community. ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
