Re: [Mpls] Property Tax Increases and SnowMN
In a message dated 11/18/2002 11:00:50 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I get a big kick out of the fact that people don't seem to understand that the >snowman aren't about art, neither were the Charlie Brown statues. What they are about >is fun... < A new twist on an old saying: I may not know much about "fun," but I know what I don't enjoy. And that's snowmen on the street signs, snowmen on the telephone directory, Snowman on the highway (which by the way the town fathers, in their wisdom, built right through the &%$#! town, making my walk to North St. Paul High each day a sheer delight). Want to look at it? Here's the behemoth: http://www.mnhs.org/places/other/roadside/images/mysnnsp.html Yeah, it was "fun" too, when I first saw it. When I was a kid. Now I'm allergic. Please don't let it reproduce! As Charlie Brown himself would say, "Auugh!" Kristine Harley Sheridan ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Re: [Mpls] Property Tax Increases and SnowMN
I get a big kick out of the fact that people don't seem to understand that the snowman aren't about art, neither were the Charlie Brown statues. What they are about is fun, and something that brings people to a downtown. Both of those things worked very well in St. Paul's case (I never went to see them because Lucy was art, but because it was so much fun!). What our elected officials just don't get, is that sometimes you do things for art and sometimes you do them for tourist effect. That's why I find it amusing that the public relations mayor wasn't behind this (just sittin' on the fence as usual). Plus what people don't like about Minneapolis and what I think Jan DelCalzo was trying to get at, is that we are awfully out of step with the rest of the metro area and the state. Sometimes that is good and sometimes not so good. What the snowmen would have done is given folks who don't necessarily experience the city through our theatres or art museums a chance to come downtown and see the city in a different way. And we shouldn't have done just 10 we should have done 30. St. Paul's experience has proven that even though each statue has a corporate sponsor, more than half of them have no logo or direct reflections of the company. They are often a witty take on the basic character. Lisa McDonald East Harriet - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 12:28 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Mpls] Property Tax Increases and SnowMN With regard to the discussion of individual property tax increases considerably exceeding the 8% levy increase cap and Sheldon Mains' observation concerning the fact that this relates to the 2001 Tax Act, there are two excellent articles in Tax Facts, a publication of the Property Tax Study Project, which I recommend. The first is at http://www.mncn.org/bp/TFv4n4.pdf. The article essentially describes (in great detail, I should warn you) how the 2001 Tax Act both shifted the property tax burden from commercial and industrial properties to residential properties and began the phase out of limited market value, thereby resulting in double digit property tax increases for residential property owners. The latest issue of Tax Facts explains how St. Paul residential property tax owners will see significant property tax increases without any increase in their levy: http://www.mncn.org/bp/TFv4n6.pdf.I also can't resist entering into the snowmen debate. The action taken by the two Council committees (which followed the recommendations of both the Arts Commission and the Planning Commission) provided that the City would not agree to the placing of these fiberglass snowmen on the public right of way. The action does not affect private property owners who want to support the project or who are enamored with the snowmen or who want to impress greater Minnesota with our artistic sensibilities. Private property owners may place snowmen on their own properties.Scott BensonCouncil MemberWard 11 Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com
[Mpls] Property Tax Increases and SnowMN
With regard to the discussion of individual property tax increases considerably exceeding the 8% levy increase cap and Sheldon Mains' observation concerning the fact that this relates to the 2001 Tax Act, there are two excellent articles in Tax Facts, a publication of the Property Tax Study Project, which I recommend. The first is at http://www.mncn.org/bp/TFv4n4.pdf. The article essentially describes (in great detail, I should warn you) how the 2001 Tax Act both shifted the property tax burden from commercial and industrial properties to residential properties and began the phase out of limited market value, thereby resulting in double digit property tax increases for residential property owners. The latest issue of Tax Facts explains how St. Paul residential property tax owners will see significant property tax increases without any increase in their levy: http://www.mncn.org/bp/TFv4n6.pdf. I also can't resist entering into the snowmen debate. The action taken by the two Council committees (which followed the recommendations of both the Arts Commission and the Planning Commission) provided that the City would not agree to the placing of these fiberglass snowmen on the public right of way. The action does not affect private property owners who want to support the project or who are enamored with the snowmen or who want to impress greater Minnesota with our artistic sensibilities. Private property owners may place snowmen on their own properties. Scott Benson Council Member Ward 11
