Re: Flyers and Kiosks
Rosalind Nelson defended the idea of flyers and more kiosks i agree about kiosks except i would like to get a better price than what lyn-lake paid for them. a possibility might be having americorp kids build and install them. or some such thing. maybe a local version through the youth coordinating board. make mac boston actually do some work and instill in young people the idea that work is good and that getting someone else to write your term papers is not self-enhancing. as to who cleans the kiosks: given the state of the city we all might think of taking the initiative our- selves in our respective neighborhoods. there used to be a national campaign against litter that used a logo of a hand dropping paper into a wire basket. the words they used we're "Pitch in". at home here in minneapolis we had a "spruce up your city" program with a spruce tree as a logo. there are still a few of the signs attached to light standards around town. we don't need new ideas or new signs. we need leaders with memories and vision who aren't afraid to speak up or get their hands dirty. and in deference to susan young who did a study for her bosses who love nothing more than to spend our money, we don't need to study the issue of "who picks up after whom" one second more. we just need to get to work. tim connolly ward 7 --- Rosalind Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some of us like rock bands, new age spiritual events, and neighborhood garage sales. We live here too. We pay taxes too. NRP events and community meetings are important, but so are the many other ways that people in a city gather together with others and keep themselves entertained. If we had more kiosks instead of less, you might be able to find the poster listing your important community meeting. As far as responsibility for cleanup, it would be interesting to find how this works in other cities that already have a large number of kiosks. I can try to find out how Madison approaches this. Rosalind Nelson Bancroft From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Flyers and Kiosks Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Regarding flyers and kiosks: The Lyn-Lake Association has had two kiosks on either side of Lyndale Avenue just south of Lake Street for several years. Part of their original purpose was for posting monthly Lyn-Lake arts calendars for public use. They ended up being big-time graffiti magnets and coated many layers deep with flyers, stickers, and posters for rock bands, New Age spiritual events, and neighborhood garage sales. I don't believe I've ever seen a single NRP event or important community meeting posted on them once. And if more such kiosks were erected, whose responsibility would it be to keep them cleaned up? Valerie Powers Tenth Ward __ Do You Yahoo!? From homework help to love advice, Yahoo! Experts has your answer. http://experts.yahoo.com/
Re: Flyers and Kiosks
I'd like to suggest here, that there is already a group, called Youth Build run from Summit Academy by Louis King in place to do that sort of thing. Americorps is a good suggestion and those youth, combined with Youth Build could do that I would think and have a good time in the bargain contributing something positive that everyone would see. I like it, it's got a good beat and you can dance to it. Wizard Marks, Central timothy connolly wrote: Rosalind Nelson defended the idea of flyers and more kiosks i agree about kiosks except i would like to get a better price than what lyn-lake paid for them. a possibility might be having americorp kids build and install them. or some such thing. maybe a local version through the youth coordinating board. make mac boston actually do some work and instill in young people the idea that work is good and that getting someone else to write your term papers is not self-enhancing. as to who cleans the kiosks: given the state of the city we all might think of taking the initiative our- selves in our respective neighborhoods. there used to be a national campaign against litter that used a logo of a hand dropping paper into a wire basket. the words they used we're "Pitch in". at home here in minneapolis we had a "spruce up your city" program with a spruce tree as a logo. there are still a few of the signs attached to light standards around town. we don't need new ideas or new signs. we need leaders with memories and vision who aren't afraid to speak up or get their hands dirty. and in deference to susan young who did a study for her bosses who love nothing more than to spend our money, we don't need to study the issue of "who picks up after whom" one second more. we just need to get to work. tim connolly ward 7 --- Rosalind Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some of us like rock bands, new age spiritual events, and neighborhood garage sales. We live here too. We pay taxes too. NRP events and community meetings are important, but so are the many other ways that people in a city gather together with others and keep themselves entertained. If we had more kiosks instead of less, you might be able to find the poster listing your important community meeting. As far as responsibility for cleanup, it would be interesting to find how this works in other cities that already have a large number of kiosks. I can try to find out how Madison approaches this. Rosalind Nelson Bancroft From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Flyers and Kiosks Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Regarding flyers and kiosks: The Lyn-Lake Association has had two kiosks on either side of Lyndale Avenue just south of Lake Street for several years. Part of their original purpose was for posting monthly Lyn-Lake arts calendars for public use. They ended up being big-time graffiti magnets and coated many layers deep with flyers, stickers, and posters for rock bands, New Age spiritual events, and neighborhood garage sales. I don't believe I've ever seen a single NRP event or important community meeting posted on them once. And if more such kiosks were erected, whose responsibility would it be to keep them cleaned up? Valerie Powers Tenth Ward __ Do You Yahoo!? From homework help to love advice, Yahoo! Experts has your answer. http://experts.yahoo.com/
Re: Flyers and Kiosks
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And if more such kiosks were erected, whose responsibility would it be to keep them cleaned up? While I was attending college, I made it a point to remove, from bulletin boards, any posters and flyers that had expired. This kept the bulletin boards relatively free of garbage and at the same time, made the boards more usable. Maybe something similar could be done for the kiosks. A local group could be responsible for removing posters for past events. And if the kiosk is only for announcing events, the group could remove any poster that was not an annoucement of an event or events. Thus, an ad for JoAnn's Herbal Hair Cream would be removed because it was not an announcement of an event. Of course, this would not work if there were no posting restrictions for the kiosks. Scott McGerik Hawthorne Ward 3 Minneapolis http://www.visi.com/~scottlm/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --017E5E3FD7D28ABB099967DD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit as a member of the lyn lake business association, i'd like to point out to valerie that perhaps she should reconsider her definition of "important community meetings". garage sales, rock concerts, and new age spiritual meetings are, dare i say, as important to some people in our community as NRP meetings. i agree that it is hard to clean kiosks up--but they are manageable. as far as graffiti goes, if the kiosk is covered with flyers and they are graffitied over, they can just be torn down. in my experience with indoor posting areas, which are probably less likely to have graffiti on them, they are rather self-cleaning. people putting up new posters and tear down the old. --017E5E3FD7D28ABB099967DD Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="kimbowl.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Kim Bartmann Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="kimbowl.vcf" begin:vcard n:bartmann;kim x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:[EMAIL PROTECTED] org:Siren Media adr:;;126 N. 3rd. St. #511;MPLS;MN;55401; version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Publisher note:"He has half the deed done, who has made a beginning" -Horace x-mozilla-cpt:;3 fn:kim bartmann end:vcard --017E5E3FD7D28ABB099967DD--
Re: Flyers and Kiosks
Some of us like rock bands, new age spiritual events, and neighborhood garage sales. We live here too. We pay taxes too. NRP events and community meetings are important, but so are the many other ways that people in a city gather together with others and keep themselves entertained. If we had more kiosks instead of less, you might be able to find the poster listing your important community meeting. As far as responsibility for cleanup, it would be interesting to find how this works in other cities that already have a large number of kiosks. I can try to find out how Madison approaches this. Rosalind Nelson Bancroft From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Flyers and Kiosks Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Regarding flyers and kiosks: The Lyn-Lake Association has had two kiosks on either side of Lyndale Avenue just south of Lake Street for several years. Part of their original purpose was for posting monthly Lyn-Lake arts calendars for public use. They ended up being big-time graffiti magnets and coated many layers deep with flyers, stickers, and posters for rock bands, New Age spiritual events, and neighborhood garage sales. I don't believe I've ever seen a single NRP event or important community meeting posted on them once. And if more such kiosks were erected, whose responsibility would it be to keep them cleaned up? Valerie Powers Tenth Ward