Re: Flyers and Kiosks

2000-11-02 Thread timothy connolly

Rosalind Nelson defended the idea of flyers and more
kiosks

i agree about kiosks except i would like to get a
better price than what lyn-lake paid for them.

a possibility might be having americorp kids build and
install them. or some such thing. maybe a local
version through the youth coordinating board. make mac
boston actually do some work and instill in young
people the idea that work is good and that getting
someone else to write your term papers is not
self-enhancing.

as to who cleans the kiosks: given the state of the
city we all might think of taking the initiative our-
selves in our respective neighborhoods. 

there used to be a national campaign against litter
that used a logo of a hand dropping paper into a wire
basket. the words they used we're "Pitch in". at home
here in minneapolis we had a "spruce up your city"
program with a spruce tree as a logo. there are still
a few of the signs attached to light standards around
town.

we don't need new ideas or new signs. we need leaders
with memories and vision who aren't afraid to speak up
or get their hands dirty. and in deference to susan
young who did a study for her bosses who love nothing
more than to spend our money, we don't need to study
the issue of "who picks up after whom" one second
more. 
we just need to get to work.

tim connolly
ward 7 
--- Rosalind Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Some of us like rock bands, new age spiritual
 events, and neighborhood
 garage sales.  We live here too.  We pay taxes too. 
 NRP events and
 community meetings are important, but so are the
 many other ways that
 people in a city gather together with others and
 keep themselves
 entertained.  
 
 If we had more kiosks instead of less, you might be
 able to find the poster
 listing your important community meeting.  
 
 As far as responsibility for cleanup, it would be
 interesting to find how
 this works in other cities that already have a large
 number of kiosks.  I
 can try to find out how Madison approaches this.
  
 
 Rosalind Nelson
 Bancroft
 
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Flyers and Kiosks
 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Regarding flyers and kiosks:
 
 The Lyn-Lake Association has had two kiosks on
 either side of Lyndale Avenue
 just south of Lake Street for several years.  Part
 of their original purpose
 was for posting monthly Lyn-Lake arts calendars for
 public use.  They ended
 up being big-time graffiti magnets and coated many
 layers deep with flyers,
 stickers, and posters for rock bands, New Age
 spiritual events, and
 neighborhood garage sales.  I don't believe I've
 ever seen a single NRP
 event or important community meeting posted on them
 once.
 
 And if more such kiosks were erected, whose
 responsibility would it be to
 keep them cleaned up?
 
 Valerie Powers
 Tenth Ward
 
 


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Re: Flyers and Kiosks

2000-11-02 Thread wizardmarks

I'd like to suggest here, that there is already a group, called Youth
Build run from Summit Academy by Louis King in place to do that sort of
thing.  Americorps is a good suggestion and those youth, combined with
Youth Build could do that I would think and have a good time in the
bargain contributing something positive that everyone would see.  I
like it, it's got a good beat and you can dance to it.
Wizard Marks, Central

timothy connolly wrote:

 Rosalind Nelson defended the idea of flyers and more
 kiosks

 i agree about kiosks except i would like to get a
 better price than what lyn-lake paid for them.

 a possibility might be having americorp kids build and
 install them. or some such thing. maybe a local
 version through the youth coordinating board. make mac
 boston actually do some work and instill in young
 people the idea that work is good and that getting
 someone else to write your term papers is not
 self-enhancing.

 as to who cleans the kiosks: given the state of the
 city we all might think of taking the initiative our-
 selves in our respective neighborhoods.

 there used to be a national campaign against litter
 that used a logo of a hand dropping paper into a wire
 basket. the words they used we're "Pitch in". at home
 here in minneapolis we had a "spruce up your city"
 program with a spruce tree as a logo. there are still
 a few of the signs attached to light standards around
 town.

 we don't need new ideas or new signs. we need leaders
 with memories and vision who aren't afraid to speak up
 or get their hands dirty. and in deference to susan
 young who did a study for her bosses who love nothing
 more than to spend our money, we don't need to study
 the issue of "who picks up after whom" one second
 more.
 we just need to get to work.

 tim connolly
 ward 7
 --- Rosalind Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Some of us like rock bands, new age spiritual
  events, and neighborhood
  garage sales.  We live here too.  We pay taxes too.
  NRP events and
  community meetings are important, but so are the
  many other ways that
  people in a city gather together with others and
  keep themselves
  entertained.
 
  If we had more kiosks instead of less, you might be
  able to find the poster
  listing your important community meeting.
 
  As far as responsibility for cleanup, it would be
  interesting to find how
  this works in other cities that already have a large
  number of kiosks.  I
  can try to find out how Madison approaches this.
 
 
  Rosalind Nelson
  Bancroft
 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Flyers and Kiosks
  Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  Regarding flyers and kiosks:
  
  The Lyn-Lake Association has had two kiosks on
  either side of Lyndale Avenue
  just south of Lake Street for several years.  Part
  of their original purpose
  was for posting monthly Lyn-Lake arts calendars for
  public use.  They ended
  up being big-time graffiti magnets and coated many
  layers deep with flyers,
  stickers, and posters for rock bands, New Age
  spiritual events, and
  neighborhood garage sales.  I don't believe I've
  ever seen a single NRP
  event or important community meeting posted on them
  once.
  
  And if more such kiosks were erected, whose
  responsibility would it be to
  keep them cleaned up?
  
  Valerie Powers
  Tenth Ward
 
 

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Re: Flyers and Kiosks

2000-11-01 Thread Scott McGerik

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 And if more such kiosks were erected, whose responsibility would it be to
 keep them cleaned up?

While I was attending college, I made it a point to remove, from
bulletin boards, any posters and flyers that had expired. This kept
the bulletin boards relatively free of garbage and at the same time,
made the boards more usable. Maybe something similar could be done for
the kiosks. A local group could be responsible for removing posters
for past events.

And if the kiosk is only for announcing events, the group could remove
any poster that was not an annoucement of an event or events. Thus, an
ad for JoAnn's Herbal Hair Cream would be removed because it was not
an announcement of an event. Of course, this would not work if there
were no posting restrictions for the kiosks.

Scott McGerik
Hawthorne
Ward 3
Minneapolis
http://www.visi.com/~scottlm/
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Re: Flyers and Kiosks

2000-11-01 Thread Kim Bartmann

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as a member of the lyn lake business association, i'd like to point out
to valerie that perhaps she should reconsider her definition of
"important community meetings". garage sales, rock concerts, and new age
spiritual meetings are, dare i say, as important to some people in our
community as NRP meetings. i agree that it is hard to clean kiosks
up--but they are manageable. as far as graffiti goes, if the kiosk is
covered with flyers and they are graffitied over, they can just be torn
down. in my experience with indoor posting areas, which are probably
less likely to have graffiti on them, they are rather self-cleaning.
people putting up new posters and tear down the old.
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Re: Flyers and Kiosks

2000-11-01 Thread Rosalind Nelson

Some of us like rock bands, new age spiritual events, and neighborhood
garage sales.  We live here too.  We pay taxes too.  NRP events and
community meetings are important, but so are the many other ways that
people in a city gather together with others and keep themselves
entertained.  

If we had more kiosks instead of less, you might be able to find the poster
listing your important community meeting.  

As far as responsibility for cleanup, it would be interesting to find how
this works in other cities that already have a large number of kiosks.  I
can try to find out how Madison approaches this.  

Rosalind Nelson
Bancroft

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Flyers and Kiosks
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Regarding flyers and kiosks:

The Lyn-Lake Association has had two kiosks on either side of Lyndale Avenue
just south of Lake Street for several years.  Part of their original purpose
was for posting monthly Lyn-Lake arts calendars for public use.  They ended
up being big-time graffiti magnets and coated many layers deep with flyers,
stickers, and posters for rock bands, New Age spiritual events, and
neighborhood garage sales.  I don't believe I've ever seen a single NRP
event or important community meeting posted on them once.

And if more such kiosks were erected, whose responsibility would it be to
keep them cleaned up?

Valerie Powers
Tenth Ward