Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Problem with last commit.

2017-12-20 Thread Martin Schreiber
On Wednesday 20 December 2017 22:57:00 fredvs wrote:
> > iassistiveserver has been extended, simply add according dummy functions
> > to your class, clientmouseevent() has been renamed to
> > doclientmouseevent() for
> > consistency, it has been mentioned in VERSION.TXT.
>
> Ouf, ok, fixed and it works like before (you scared me).
>
> Re-by the way, I am curious to test your new assistive features.
>
There probably will be a demo program.

Martin

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Problem with last commit.

2017-12-20 Thread Martin Schreiber
On Wednesday 20 December 2017 20:31:24 fredvs wrote:
> > Thereason is that I currently make a tassistivserver component for
> > applications which are specifically designed for visually impaired
> > people.
>
> Ha, earlier tassistivserver was not able to help visually impaired people ?
> Could you explain, please, what does the new tassistivserver that earlier
> did not do ?
>
SAK can be used in order to add speak assistance to arbitrary applications, 
MSEgui tassistivehandler is designated for applications which are specially 
designed from scratch for blind people.

Martin

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Problem with last commit.

2017-12-20 Thread fredvs
> iassistiveserver has been extended, simply add according dummy functions to 
> your class, clientmouseevent() has been renamed to doclientmouseevent()
> for 
> consistency, it has been mentioned in VERSION.TXT. 

Ouf, ok, fixed and it works like before (you scared me).

Re-by the way, I am curious to test your new assistive features.

Fre;D





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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Problem with last commit.

2017-12-20 Thread fredvs
> Thereason is that I currently make a tassistivserver component for 
> applications which are specifically designed for visually impaired people. 

Ha, earlier tassistivserver was not able to help visually impaired people ?
Could you explain, please, what does the new tassistivserver that earlier
did not do ?

Thanks.

Fre;D
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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Reactivate my project

2017-12-20 Thread Krzysztof
> Huh, sincerely, I thought that you did it work

No, since I suspended my project which needed that :)

> Huh, about ICY Data, do you know a application that can deal with it (to see
> what must be the result).

Not really. This is not urgent for me now. Maybe I'll even try to
continue this later when nothing else left in my app

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Rich internet Application

2017-12-20 Thread Michael Schnell

On 18.12.2017 22:49, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
 Web apps users have different needs and expect different behaviour to 
desktop applications.

Not in my world :-).

Same consists of embedded software that most of the time does not need 
any GUI at all. But usually a network connection is available.


But it needs to be monitored or configured whenever necessary.

Here either
 a) some hardware could be provided to have the maintainer do that 
(i.e. a local GUI using some standard library (such as mseGUI) and some 
standard widget set)
 b) a standard web server or web server interface (such as CGI or 
Apache API) is implemented and a standard  browser is used to attach to 
the device.
 c) some propriety protocol and a dedicated software to run on a PC is 
implemented. The communication could be either defined by the GUI 
library (-> ifi) or be propriety according to the needs of the 
application (GUI and "Business-Code" separation).


Finally:
 b1) part of the application runs on the remote site in the browser, 
the communication could be either defined by the GUI library (-> ifi) or 
be propriety according to the needs of the application.



The application might either run on dedicated hardware or on a web server.

Now in a perfect world it should be possible do to a normal (mse-)GUI 
application (->a) and just set a switch to compile it to work according 
to (->b).


Of course it would be acceptable if only a subset of the full range of 
visual components is provided in such portable way.


Obviously b) and b1) ask for pas2js (or even better for pascal to 
webassembly) compilation.


-Michael

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