Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Status of MSELang
Hello. There are some test-benchmark of mselang here: https://github.com/mse-org/mselang/tree/master/src/benchmark -- Sent from: http://mseide-msegui-talk.13964.n8.nabble.com/ ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Status of MSELang
On 19/04/2021 6:32 am, Alexander via mseide-msegui-talk wrote: > And why do you need LLVM when using Pascal? How about .pas to ELF directly ? >From what I understand, LLVM does very very impressive optimisations when in generates the final binary executable. Way more that what the FPC compiler can achieve. Even Delphi's compiler does a LOT more optimisations that FPC - hence Delphi binaries tend to be a lot faster. The Kylix compiler was the same. Martin used to often post speed comparisons in the FPC mailing list to show how slow FPC was. It is well known that the Free Pascal developers pay more attention to the FPC code being maintainable and supports easier porting to new platforms or CPU's - than they do about optimising the final binary. With MSELang, you will still program in "object pascal", it will just be using LLVM that generates the final optimised binary. Regards, Graeme -- fpGUI Toolkit - a cross-platform GUI toolkit using Free Pascal http://fpgui.sourceforge.net/ My public PGP key: http://tinyurl.com/graeme-pgp ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Status of MSELang
> And why do you need LLVM when using Pascal? Because LLVM does it much better for float calculation for example. "Pure" fpc is ok for database applications for example but once you work with animation, DSP, live sound effect, etc, where lot of float calculation is needed, the result is much slower than using LLVM. In my side, I am more interested with sound applications and multi-media, and a fpc application cannot be fast as LLVM. But, at the moment, LLVM has only a C module and I will be very happy if there is a Pascal LLVM module, like mselang. > How about .pas to ELF directly ? Maybe but the problem will be the same as using fpc, how will you do for the optimization that LLVM does? Note that even Google has choose LLVM for his applications now and will contribute to make LLVM better. Fre;D -- Sent from: http://mseide-msegui-talk.13964.n8.nabble.com/ ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
