Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Produced code of MSElang and FPC

2015-03-22 Thread Ivanko B
MSElang-llvm seems to ask LLVM to precalculate the result ($15 in the
example) then just puts it to the output. So now we have smth like
C[++] double pass compiling, correct ?

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Version control for closed source projects (was Skin center)

2015-03-08 Thread Ivanko B
The only usable  universal GITOLITE tutorial:

But now me can't pull the autocreated (via gitoline.conf) non-admin
repo - it refuses any SSH-login credentials (from win7-64 bit
console).
Why wouldn't the GIT guys make some  automation tools for easy
(run-questions-answers-done) installation?

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Skin center

2015-03-06 Thread Ivanko B
BTW, I also know Swiss companies which develop embedded software without a
VCS, they store different releases in different directories, thats it.
Unbelievable.
=
In the current PHP+JS+AJAX project (BTW it may give some ideas to
MSElang) me do so as well - although very unhandy  improductive but
it allows to aviod GIT leaning.

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] First comparison MSElang - FPC ;-)

2015-01-26 Thread Ivanko B
How is this related to the future
=
The promise also offers combination of async=parallel ( all() ) 
sync=waited (then()) execution, for instance :

Promise.all([async_func1(),..async_funcN(),..]).then(sync_func1()).then(sync_func2))...

async_funcX() run in parallel (on different cores etc) and
sync_func1() will run once all of async_funcX()  finish.

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] First comparison MSElang - FPC ;-)

2015-01-25 Thread Ivanko B
Preventing from tossing registers  stack we see in the example
minimizes function call overhead :)

and llvm beat gcc too i guess
==
Until gcc 2014+, for some scenarios, for sure

What I saw up to now from LLVM backend is really impressive
==
And the one is constantly being improbed by the large community.

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] ideU, the IDE Universal.

2014-12-06 Thread Ivanko B
Doesn't it require SSH key pairing (issued by Gitorius) be established ?

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui version 3.6

2014-11-29 Thread Ivanko B
Please start MSEide with
mseide.exe --fontalias=stf_default,,16
=
Definetely MSEide shoud query system screen metrics upon start then
show a message about the FONTALIAS adjustment if too low (3mm-)
phycics size of chars is calculated.

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] compiling mseide-msegui on ARMHF

2014-11-27 Thread Ivanko B
Now I can cross compile and remote debug the Raspberry Pi with MSEide as it
would be local.
==
On QEMUed RasperyPI we can even run locally built MSEgui apps in X11
regular desktop - no need in crosscompiling  remote debugging anymore
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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] compiling mseide-msegui on ARMHF

2014-11-27 Thread Ivanko B
I have had to increase the  $RUNTARGET} 'wait before connect' box to
10 seconds to allow me time to type in the SSH key passphrase,
otherwise I get GDB timeout.
Is there any way around having to type the passphrase every time?

Just don't set a pasword on SSH key pair when ssh-keygen-ing on the
client. Also append contents the public key of the SSH-client to
/home/client_user/.ssh/authorized_keys on the SSH-server (with 0660
access rights for client_user). Also care about
/etc/ssh/sshd_config for allowing the root user to login - it's
usually AllowRootLogin without -password.

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] compiling mseide-msegui on ARMHF

2014-11-27 Thread Ivanko B
I prefer to debug on real hardware, especially for hardware coupled
applications (embedded). And cross compiling is necessary for QUEMU too. ;-)

Have You bought a RaspberryPi handheld/miniboard ?
(it's cheep though)/

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] compiling mseide-msegui on ARMHF

2014-11-27 Thread Ivanko B
Please use public key authentication:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys
Do not set a passphrase for your private key!

Correct. It's even possible to build a permanent tunnel connection
over SSH - either with ssh -w (via TUN intefaces)  or VDE plugpipes
(via TAP interfaces which is my preferrable).

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] compiling mseide-msegui on ARMHF

2014-11-27 Thread Ivanko B
And cross compiling is necessary for QUEMU too.

Why ?  It's possible to install FPC packages on QEMUed RaspberriPI DEBIAN:

# apt-get install fpc fcl-base fcl-db postgresql-dev libx11-dev ...

and build MSEgui apps on regular desktop machine (run in VM though).

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] compiling mseide-msegui on ARMHF

2014-11-26 Thread Ivanko B
 MSEide git master 14c7c80b507147bf2ad9661540c215faac621afe compiles for me
 with a linux-x86 - ARM FPC 2.6.5 crosscompiler. Linking fails because of
 missing libraries I need to build or find first.
 Please report your results, I assume your system has all necessary
 libraries.

 Martin


It's easier to install ARM-based LINUX into a QEMU virtual machime
(QEMU features emulating other CPU command sets). For instance
there're ISO images for network installing RaspberriPi DEBIAN which in
turn provides the full FPC environment.

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] General

2014-09-14 Thread Ivanko B
https://gitorious.org/mseuniverse/mseuniverse/source/attic/msedocumenting/mse/trunk/help/doc/msehelp.txt
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Hmm,a titanic work (approx 3000 lines)! And some parts look like (poor
English) written by me.

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] General

2014-09-08 Thread Ivanko B
It's seems that now it's too late but it would be better to have
sources be self-documenting (for PasDoc processing like Ararat's
Synapse).
As the ideal worlflow, once Martin adds/changes smth then also puts
some formateed decription. It's a deal of half of a minute but saves
many hours  nerves in future.

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] General

2014-09-08 Thread Ivanko B
And just who would place the comments in the code for the PasDoc program?
Would that be Martin?
==
Anyone allowed to edit the sources (via rollable back GIT commits for
sure). Or dedicated patches to send to Martin for applying by him.
Currently those may be others than Martin but once all gets in sync
then Martin may continue by himself.

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] General

2014-09-08 Thread Ivanko B
Also The PasDoc way won't make sources dirty since one will take only
beginning (declaration) part of files.
But PasDoc should be tested for correct propagating inherted methods 
props and hiding private ones while generating  DOC data - so that
each (own  inherited) public/protected/published method  prop is
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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] deploy problem

2014-08-02 Thread Ivanko B
usbdisk
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1) format the disk with EXT2/3/4
or
2) pack the app bundle with tar czf out_arc_file dir_to_deploy

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSElang: Multiple inheritance for interfaces

2014-07-18 Thread Ivanko B
Me mean that at least a class shound be inherited for multiple
anscessor interfaces to be allowed alltogether. It's strange when
interface is only used to enforce implementing its methods (mostly for
providing polimorphity).

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSElang: Multiple inheritance for interfaces

2014-07-14 Thread Ivanko B
It does not compile for me:
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As long as cls = class (i1,i2) compiles.

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSElang: Multiple inheritance for interfaces

2014-07-14 Thread Ivanko B
Then it behaves like a bug.

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] test

2014-07-13 Thread Ivanko B
Yandex.translate:
==
Перед переводом не используй сказуемых без подлежащих (в английском
это - повелительное наклонение, приказ тому, с кем общаешься), и не
используй русских и украинских идиом  - и будет терпимо :).

Неправильно: Читаю через слово.
Правильно : При чтении я понимаю каждое второе слово.
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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSElang: Multiple inheritance for interfaces

2014-07-13 Thread Ivanko B
implement multiple inheritance for interfaces.
===
Like it's already done in FPC ? It's NECESSARY! And may be even for
classes as well/

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] WEB frameworks (was: Search)

2014-06-01 Thread Ivanko B
Do you know mORMot?
==
1) it needs installing an own-complied server part - it's problematic
due to the common WEB hosting vulnerability restrictions.

2) Delphi/pascal based. For WEB apps, PHP  JS are much-much more
powerful in its syntax and also allows evaluating merged command, like
here :

for (var i in monthnums) {
eval(var curr = indexdata_arr.m + monthnums[i] + ;);
gebid(m + monthnums[i] + MT1).disabled = (curr == 1) ?  : disabled;
gebid(m + monthnums[i] + MT1).checked = (curr == 1) ? checked : ;
}

3) MSEgui's IFI + PascalScript look more promising.

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSElang, long strings and dynamic arrays are not thread safe

2014-05-12 Thread Ivanko B
 The overhead? Every operation which inc/dec's ref count, for example

That's why me recommend  both types - You may implement unsafe types
first and safe ones later.

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSElang, long strings and dynamic arrays are not thread safe

2014-05-11 Thread Ivanko B
Opinions?

Two options with distinguishable syntax.

var1: int;

threasafe var1: int;
or
var1: int threadsafe;

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSElang, long strings and dynamic arrays are not thread safe

2014-05-11 Thread Ivanko B
Have you ever concurrentely read strings from different threads?
==
With memory access hooks etc ? No, but there may be such need - it's
even obvious from Your question.

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSElang, long strings and dynamic arrays are not thread safe

2014-05-11 Thread Ivanko B
I looks like DB issues about concurrent accessing shared data.
There're a few 100% working access disciplines for that - SHARE, SHARE
READ, SHARE EXCLUSIVE etc. For instance, they may introduce read
waiting for another's change to commit. How about implemention those
with thread-safe variables ?

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Package mseide-msegui

2014-04-29 Thread Ivanko B
Do you think it is enough?
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Only if it unlocks the MSEgui's FPC  2.7+ problem.

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Package mseide-msegui

2014-04-29 Thread Ivanko B
Do you know what has been changed with

No since it needs to see in the SVN log diffs.

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Package mseide-msegui

2014-04-28 Thread Ivanko B
The guys! Please fix MSEi18n since it's WYSIWYG !

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Package mseide-msegui

2014-04-28 Thread Ivanko B
More useful  for MSEgui would be to implement Unicode resourcestrings in FPC.
http://bugs.freepascal.org/view.php?id=6477
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It has been shown as resolved - in FPC 2.7.
Do You mean fixing for FPC 2.6 ?

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Package mseide-msegui

2014-04-28 Thread Ivanko B
 by some *** arrogant *** package maintainer

Really it's a problem of RU-2-EN translation. Like putting an elephant
into a small can :)

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] bug in ubuntu 14_04

2014-04-27 Thread Ivanko B
I don't understand
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A russian idiom,  means Nobody helps but to oneself :)

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide for windows 64

2014-04-26 Thread Ivanko B
Why do you need it?
=
Me guess for being ready to rus apps with more than 2 GB per
processRAM demands. 32bit apps can't address that memory. MSEgui shoud
start incorporating 64 bit already today so that to fix most of bugs
to the time when 64bit becomes standard-de-facto.

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide for windows 64

2014-04-26 Thread Ivanko B
Concrete Example?

Enterprize level server applications for instance - some of modern
them are 64bit only.

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide for windows 64

2014-04-26 Thread Ivanko B
http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Windows_Programming_Tips#FPC_2.6.x.2FLazarus_warning_.28Missing_support_for_SEH.29
=
Anyway it won't affect us really because of :

1) the issue has been fixed in the FPC development version but it is
a major change and it will not be backported to FPC 2.6.x.

2) MSElang won't have the issues.

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide for windows 64

2014-04-26 Thread Ivanko B
Who wants to use MSEide+MSEgui for Enterprize level server applications? I
===
Why not for console apps like servers ? MSEgui (arrays, containers,
crypto, ..) is a very handly library.
A typical modern server is 32..64GB RAM  16/32 cores 64bit CPU. A
typical working scenario if it at 1000+ client is several GB taken by
main server process.

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide for windows 64

2014-04-26 Thread Ivanko B
 and the workarounds for buggy dwarf and gdb 64bit debugging which must be found
==
So, You've decided to implement 100% working 64 bit in MSElang. No
itentions to have MSEgui working on FPC 2.7.
Will MElang be LLVM based to have all hardware optimizations of every
of  modern CPUs always up-to-date ?

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide for windows 64

2014-04-26 Thread Ivanko B
fpc team , they should take msegui as a default gui for fpc . (they
made a mistak by not doing this )
lazarus is really slow and especially with gtk
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Very mush of religion  inertion. Impossible to turn back to speed 
RAM optimisation - which may lead to gradual death of the project once
embedded devices are becoming mainstream. Me advice MSEgui to pay more
atenton to handhelds.

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide for windows 64

2014-04-26 Thread Ivanko B
 But I fear you  are a little bit too optimistic

But anyway there's nothing better and maintainable :)

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Package mseide-msegui

2014-04-25 Thread Ivanko B
you stated that once if it is translated to Russian there will be much
more interest.
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One got into the educational distro Alexey has been polish. Definitely
he needs 100% cooperative packages, for instance 100% workable MSEgui
+ 100% workable MSEgui tools - MSEi18n etc :)

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Package mseide-msegui

2014-04-24 Thread Ivanko B
Such a lot of efforts  should have result :)

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Package mseide-msegui

2014-04-23 Thread Ivanko B
i don't understand why people at lazarus don't contribute at this
project

They mainly consider everything different than Lazarus vasting the
resources :) Although MSE*  Lazarus take different niches - for
instance, Lazarus apps are hardly usable on embedded devices (the
mainstream of near future) as long as MSE* apps run well on those.

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Package mseide-msegui

2014-04-23 Thread Ivanko B
i think if msegui was designed for gcc then i think it will be the
most famous project ever
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Especially seeing MSEgui's database support :)

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Package mseide-msegui

2014-04-22 Thread Ivanko B
In any case all files from msegui/lib after install package are root
 owner (root is owner for all files from package) and works incorrect
 with user access.

It's a problem of all LINUX official packages which 99% are installed
in the /usr/*. The workaround is to precompile *.a  *.o either when
building package (a bad solution because of the tough FPC version
dependencies ) or (re)installing package both with the root
privileges.
Non-root users have to be prevented from attempts of accidental
building these files when building their projects in home directories.
Or they may keep MSE* tree in home directory which breaks packaging
system though.

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Package mseide-msegui

2014-04-22 Thread Ivanko B
Please work with new icon as well as  the same mseide. It's your icon,
 please modify if my result is not good. I did not find green svg, used
 blue. I don't know how to change color
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Polishing the appearance ? A great deal !

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] underscore doesn't appear inside directives

2014-04-03 Thread Ivanko B
Please try it.
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Which code does the miscalculations currently ?

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] underscore doesn't appear inside directives

2014-04-02 Thread Ivanko B
Say it to Microsoft!
==
Sure unless other windows software would expose these issues :) Can
this miscalculation be detected/reassured  handled ?

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] underscore doesn't appear inside directives

2014-03-31 Thread Ivanko B
This weird feeling issue of the italic text MUST be fixed w/o any user
side workarounding :)

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[MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Complile error (win-32)

2014-03-24 Thread Ivanko B
Free Pascal Compiler version 2.6.2 [2013/02/12] for i386
Copyright (c) 1993-2012 by Florian Klaempfl and others
Target OS: Win32 for i386
Compiling test.pas
Compiling D:\GITROOT\mseide-msegui\lib\common\kernel\msegui.pas
Compiling D:\GITROOT\mseide-msegui\lib\common\fpccompatibility\mclasses.pas
Compiling D:\GITROOT\mseide-msegui\lib\common\kernel\msetypes.pas
Compiling D:\GITROOT\mseide-msegui\lib\common\kernel\msesystypes.pas
mclasses.pas(1091,46) Fatal: Can't find unit msesysintf used by mclasses
Fatal: Compilation aborted

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] msegui html support

2014-03-23 Thread Ivanko B
There's no dedicated HTML (and RTF+imaging) widgets in MSEgui AFAIK.
Someone should write one :)

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] msegui html support

2014-03-23 Thread Ivanko B
an external displayprogram  with twindowwidget.
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or better an HTML renderer - WebKit etc ?

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] msegui html support

2014-03-23 Thread Ivanko B
btw : how could you use an external engine
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Someone should write components - TWebkitRenderer, TMozillaRenderer,
TIERenderer...

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] msegui html support

2014-03-23 Thread Ivanko B
And  a uiniversal THTMLRenderer - a switch to all the above renderers
with assigning fallback priority.

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[MSEide-MSEgui-talk] FreePascal.Ru: how to implement tagless tab pages ?

2014-03-20 Thread Ivanko B
See the attached application (production automatic) for an instance :

https://cloud.mail.ru/public/137b16408426/vnitep.

where tab pages are switched by external buttons.
BTW, this is the application to be ARM11 DEBIAN6+ (Raspberry PI)
compiled :) Is it possible to build one with MSEgui in an easy manner
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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] FreePascal.Ru: how to implement tagless tab pages ?

2014-03-20 Thread Ivanko B
Another possibility is to switch off tab autosizing
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Where to find this option ?

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] comma instead of dot in keyboard keypad

2014-03-20 Thread Ivanko B
A system locale (decimal vs thousands separator) issue ?

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] FreePascal.Ru: how to implement tagless tab pages ?

2014-03-20 Thread Ivanko B
Active on runtime only.
==
Why ? It'll disturb WIYSIWYG widget placement
(hidden tabs can be selected via ObjInsp)

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Can MSEide be built for ARM 11 - Raspberry Pi ?

2014-03-17 Thread Ivanko B
Hmm, it seems that OpenVG runs on top of OpenGL [ES].
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenVG).

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Can MSEide be built for ARM 11 - Raspberry Pi ?

2014-03-17 Thread Ivanko B
What are the planned MSEgui applications on Raspberry Pi?
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The response : buttons, panels, tab sheets, vector graphic for 2D drawing.

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Can MSEide be built for ARM 11 - Raspberry Pi ?

2014-03-17 Thread Ivanko B
Also Raspberry PI allows to install full FPC+MSEide+MSEgui build
environment - native or QEMUlated.

MSEgui is very fast on xlib-Xorg
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FreePascal people can't get why LAZARUS is so slow on this soap-case machine.

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Can MSEide be built for ARM 11 - Raspberry Pi ?

2014-03-17 Thread Ivanko B
Lazarus has an additional complicated layer between widgetset and and
 application. MSEgui has more possibilities for optimisation because
 the widgetset is embedded and under full control.
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And may be becfuse of the design window per form as contrarry to
window per widget primitive.

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] how to show png , jpg on timage

2014-03-16 Thread Ivanko B
This changes the order of rotation-scaling. 4999x2999 first scales down so the
 later rotated image fits 4999x2999.
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Just rechecked - it doesn't matter whether the source image is
5000x3000 (to be downscaled) or 1920x1080 (to be upscaled).

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] how to show png , jpg on timage

2014-03-16 Thread Ivanko B
But the problem really applied to resizing to the same or a large
image from the 5000x3000 image only.

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[MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Can MSEide be built for ARM 11 - Raspberry Pi ?

2014-03-16 Thread Ivanko B
Using a QEMU emulator for instance :

http://xecdesign.com/qemu-emulating-raspberry-pi-the-easy-way/

which provide DEBIAN 7 with Xorg.
Works excellent. It may even install FreePascal 2.6.0:

# sudo apt-get update
# sudo apt-get install mc
# sudo apt-get install fpc

Although only 200 MB free space (for 2014-01-07-wheezy-raspbian.img)
remains after this installation and built MSE* will occupy approx
additional 100 MB (though the image size can be enlarged if needed).

PS: There're guys on Freepascal.Ru interested in any FPC GUI library
providing responsive GUI (LAZARUS fails here even with QT5 using
OpenGL internally). The further deal is OpelGL ES GUI drawing
backend instead of the pure OpenGL one (it may be one of causes why
QT5 remains slow).

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] how to show png , jpg on timage

2014-03-16 Thread Ivanko B
With the newest GIT, upscaling to 5000x3000 is instant. 5000x3000 to
5001x3001 and to 5500x3300  are instant (1.5 sec) too. But 5000x3000
to 6000x4000 is improportionally slow (114 sec) as long as taking the
same memory (340..570 MB). There's seems to be a scalability problem.

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] how to show png , jpg on timage

2014-03-15 Thread Ivanko B
 What do you get with smaller 'width'  and 'height' settings?
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4999x2999 is processed instantly but +5000x3000(+1+1 to it) takes 10 minutes.

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] how to show png , jpg on timage

2014-03-04 Thread Ivanko B
It's also possible to follow the exact (in sources) way GM MOGRIFY
-ROTATE goes.

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] how to show png , jpg on timage

2014-03-04 Thread Ivanko B
Or maybe there has to be some initiation for Open MP to work properly.
BTW, me use the x86_64 version of Win7.

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] how to show png , jpg on timage

2014-03-03 Thread Ivanko B
# gm mogrify -resize 5000x3000 1920x1080 img = 1 sec
# gm mogrify -rotate 45 5000x3000 img = 1..2 sec

So the slow rotation problem seems to be in MSEgui.

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] how to show png , jpg on timage

2014-03-03 Thread Ivanko B
Trying GMTEST to GM's produced 5000x3000:
1 deg = OK.
45 deg = fails with AV.

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] how to show png , jpg on timage

2014-03-03 Thread Ivanko B
The AV stack is :
#0  10055247 :0 DestroyImage()
#1  1008D3B8 :0 RotateImage()
#2  0001 :0 ??()
#3  0005 :0 ??()
#4  0001 :0 ??()
#5   :0 ??()

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] how to show png , jpg on timage

2014-03-03 Thread Ivanko B
GMTEST eats 470+ MB memory on the AV.

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] how to show png , jpg on timage

2014-03-03 Thread Ivanko B
May be it worths to look at the rotaton code used by GM.

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] how to show png , jpg on timage

2014-03-03 Thread Ivanko B
How much memory does the gm-tool for the same  task?
==
114MB. And all 4 CPU cores.

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] how to show png , jpg on timage

2014-03-03 Thread Ivanko B
No AV , but 130+seconds on 45deg. 570MB RAM is consumed as long as
free RAM is 1GB.
It seems that You'll have to grab a multicore CPU machine for futher
GM polishing :)

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] how to show png , jpg on timage

2014-03-03 Thread Ivanko B
Please read the conversation on graphicsmagick-help

How to do it w/o subscription ?

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] how to show png , jpg on timage

2014-03-02 Thread Ivanko B
MSEgui to RaspberryPi
=
To ARM CPUs.

The wonders of computing! ;-)
===
Or bugs of using openMP :) 4 cores are slower than 2 ones. But only
scaling is 3 times as faster.

Can you make tests on Linux too?

Unfortunately no - me'm unable to recover GRUB loader on the machine.

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] how to show png , jpg on timage

2014-03-02 Thread Ivanko B
AMD Athlon XP 3000+ has a single core only

So no work for openMP = no openMP bugs :)

Boot from a Linux life CD/DVD and restore it.

Tried a lot of times - the LINUX+Grub2 installation and/or the
motherboard seem to be too up-to-date to be recovered. So me'll have
to download the newest DEBIAN DVDs and reinstall.

IIRC Koenraad Lelong successfully used MSEgui on ARM:

But this approach can't be advised someone not-devoted until we have
lib/common/kernel/arm*-{os}/ in MSEide+MSEgui :)

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] how to show png , jpg on timage

2014-03-02 Thread Ivanko B
IIRC Koenraad Lelong successfully used MSEgui on ARM:
===
Will it be possible to switch on openGL backend for GUI drawing on ARM ?

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] how to show png , jpg on timage

2014-03-02 Thread Ivanko B
although OpenGL for 2D GUI rendering is a nightmare to work with.
===
Is it possible to activate it right now ?

Where is the money? ;-)
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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] how to show png , jpg on timage

2014-03-02 Thread Ivanko B
 I don't know the state on Windows.
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Me can check on win7 :). How to activate ?

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEgui+OpenGL (was how to show png , jpg on timage)

2014-03-02 Thread Ivanko B
SigSegv on running :

#0  0040D2E2 :0 SYSTEM_SYSGETMEM_FIXED$LONGWORD$$POINTER()
#1  0030 :0 ??()
#2  0003 :0 ??()
#3  00295C98 :0 ??()
#4  0030 :0 ??()
#5  00300878 :0 ??()
#6  0046684B mclasses.pas:6084 TREADER__READDATA(INSTANCE=0x379f80,
this=error reading variable)
#7  0045EE47 mclasses.pas:1647 TCOMPONENT__READSTATE(READER=0x3311c0,
this=error reading variable)
#8  0048B09F mseclasses.pas:4672
TMSECOMPONENT__READSTATE(READER=0x3311c0, this=error reading
variable)
#9  004665A2 mclasses.pas:6048 TREADER__READCOMPONENT(COMPONENT=0x0,
this=error reading variable)
#10  004668D9 mclasses.pas:6097 TREADER__READDATA(INSTANCE=0x3a3910,
this=error reading variable)
#11  0045EE47 mclasses.pas:1647 TCOMPONENT__READSTATE(READER=0x3311c0,
this=error reading variable)
#12  0048B09F mseclasses.pas:4672
TMSECOMPONENT__READSTATE(READER=0x3311c0, this=error reading
variable)
#13  00499037 msedatamodules.pas:253
TMSEDATAMODULE__READSTATE(READER=0x3311c0, this=error reading
variable)
#14  0046835B mclasses.pas:6581
TREADER__READROOTCOMPONENT(AROOT=0x3a3910, this=error reading
variable)
#15  00488534 mseclasses.pas:2205 LOADMODULE(INSTANCE=0x3a3910,
PO1=0x339e98, ASINHERITED=false)
#16  00488C33 mseclasses.pas:2904 DOLOAD(ACLASS=incomplete type,
parentfp=0x205fccc)
#17  004889F6 mseclasses.pas:2928 INITMSECOMPONENT(INSTANCE=0x3a3910,
ROOTANCESTOR=incomplete type, NEEDSLOADING=false)
#18  00488CBA mseclasses.pas:3046 LOADMSEMODULE(INSTANCE=0x3a3910,
ROOTANCESTOR=incomplete type)
#19  00498BD3 msedatamodules.pas:152
TMSEDATAMODULE__CREATE(AOWNER=0x0, LOAD=true, vmt=0x55a824,
this=error reading variable)
#20  004A93D4 msestockobjects.pas:310 INIT()
#21  00438FC4 msegraphics.pas:1729 INIT()
#22  0042F6AF msegui.pas:16959
TGUIAPPLICATION__INTERNALINITIALIZE(this=error reading variable)
#23  00497F0A mseapplication.pas:1742
TCUSTOMAPPLICATION__INITIALIZE(this=error reading variable)
#24  00496F94 mseapplication.pas:1146
TCUSTOMAPPLICATION__CREATE(AOWNER=0x0, vmt=0x0, this=error reading
variable)
#25  0042F5E0 msegui.pas:16950 TGUIAPPLICATION__CREATE(AOWNER=0x0,
vmt=0x0, this=error reading variable)
#26  0042B29F msegui.pas:15074
TINTERNALAPPLICATION__CREATE(AOWNER=0x0, vmt=0x527b20, this=error
reading variable)
#27  004125EE msegui.pas:3474 APPLICATION()
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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEgui+OpenGL (was how to show png , jpg on timage)

2014-03-02 Thread Ivanko B
It works for me if compiled with -gh
===
This fails with a exception instead.

I do not plan to work on OpenGL-gdi now.
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As the discussion on Freepascal.ru shows it seems to the only
relevant choice for handheld ARM-based media-playback (pad etc) aimed
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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] how to show png , jpg on timage

2014-03-02 Thread Ivanko B
1920x1080-5000x3000 = 1..2sec
5000x3000-5000x3000 = 0.7sec
5000x3000-5000x3000x45degrees = 130sec

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] how to show png , jpg on timage

2014-03-01 Thread Ivanko B
At a glance, the delays are most likely not GM related. Even without
downscaling GM wins approx 2 times anyway in this testcase.
But with upscaling GM looses FPImage wiuthout scaling.
Double upscaling - 1920x1080 (the pic me sent)- 3000x2000 -
5000x3000x45rot.deg GM performs very slow - 140 seconds, CPU load
isn't high..
Single upscaling 1920x1080 (the pic me sent)- 5000x300x45rot.deg GM
performs in 130 seconds, CPU load isn't high.
So it seems that MSEgui's GM needs polishing to upscaling.

(the test machine isn't slow - i5-4570, AMD HD6850, 4G DDR3).

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] how to show png , jpg on timage

2014-03-01 Thread Ivanko B
5000x3000x45deg, sure.

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] how to show png , jpg on timage

2014-03-01 Thread Ivanko B
Just checked - Paint.NET  XNview don't cause any serious load to CPU
(some load)  GPU (frequencies of the idle state) while performing the
operations.

(me test on win7 = GDI32+).

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] how to show png , jpg on timage

2014-03-01 Thread Ivanko B
simulated by MSEgui in memory
==
Anyway 130+ is too slow.

cl_white = 145 sec  white result image
rotmonomask = 141 sec  white result image
=
Please present an exact setting set for fast 1920x1080-5000x3000
upscaling  45deg rotating.

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] how to show png , jpg on timage

2014-03-01 Thread Ivanko B
There's a discussion about GUI-performance
http://freepascal.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5t=9710p=80014#p80014

The hardware is:
The SoC is a Broadcom BCM2835. This contains an ARM1176JZFS, with
floating point, running at 700Mhz; and a Videocore 4 GPU@ 250 MHz. The
GPU is capable of BluRay quality playback, using H.264 at 40MBits/s.
It has a fast 3D core accessed using the supplied OpenGL ES 2.0 (24
GFLOPS) and OpenVG libraries.

Rotation+scaling, rgb mask   25s   7.2s
==
Me have 130+ seconds here ! So it seems that AMD Athlon XP 3000+ is
times as more powerful than INTEL Core i5-4570 3.2HGz which is really
surprising.

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] how to show png , jpg on timage

2014-02-28 Thread Ivanko B
MS WINDOWS:
---
mseclasses.pas(1182,13) Warning: Symbol PBOOLEAN is deprecated
mseclasses.pas(1182,23) Error: Incompatible types: got Boolean expected Byte
mseclasses.pas(5720) Fatal: There were 1 errors compiling module, stopping
Fatal: Compilation aborted
Error: C:\FPC\2.6.2\bin\i386-Win32\ppc386.exe returned an error
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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] how to show png , jpg on timage

2014-02-28 Thread Ivanko B
Now works with GraphicsMagick but fails (JPEG erorr) with FPIMAGE:
---
#0  0040AC16 :0 fpc_raiseexception()
#1  0054B438 :0 FPREADJPEG_JPEGERROR$J_COMMON_PTR()
#2  0054CD9E :0 JERROR_ERREXIT2$J_COMMON_PTR$J_MESSAGE_CODE$LONGINT$LONGINT()
#3  0054F538 :0 JDMARKER_FIRST_MARKER$J_DECOMPRESS_PTR$$BOOLEAN()
#4  0054F58A :0 JDMARKER_READ_MARKERS$J_DECOMPRESS_PTR$$LONGINT()
#5  0025A6C8 :0 ??()
#6  0054B646 :0
FPREADJPEG_TFPREADERJPEG_$__INTERNALREAD$TSTREAM$TFPCUSTOMIMAGE()
#7  004C4299 fphandler.inc:230
TFPCUSTOMIMAGEREADER__IMAGEREAD(STR=0x21bca0, IMG=0x21ba60,
this=error reading variable)
#8  004C2063 msegraphicstream.pas:391 READFPGRAPHIC(SOURCE=0x21bca0,
READERCLASS=incomplete type, DEST=0x2ccd88)
#9  0054B030 msegraphicstream.pas:0
MSEFORMATJPGREAD_READGRAPHIC$TSTREAM$TOBJECT$ANSISTRING$array_of_const$$BOOLEAN()
#10  004C1D09 msegraphicstream.pas:270 READGRAPHIC1(SOURCE=0x21bca0,
ADEST=0x2ccd88, AFORMATLABEL=0x0, PARAMS={}, highPARAMS=-1,
result=0x0)
#11  004C1F88 msegraphicstream.pas:345 READGRAPHIC(SOURCE=0x21bca0,
DEST=0x2ccd88, AFORMATNAME=0x0, PARAMS={}, highPARAMS=-1, result=0x0)
#12  0047A15C msebitmap.pas:2086
TMASKEDBITMAP__LOADFROMSTREAM(STREAM=0x21bca0, FORMAT=0x0, PARAMS={},
highPARAMS=-1, this=error reading variable, result=0x0)
#13  0047A250 msebitmap.pas:2104
TMASKEDBITMAP__LOADFROMFILE(FILENAME=0x2cd3d0
'/D:/FRAPS_Snapshots/25nov2013/MassEffect3 2013-11-24
23-26-42-63.jpg', FORMAT=0x0, PARAMS={}, highPARAMS=-1, this=error
reading variable, result=0x0)
#14  00432DF1 main.pas:70 TMAINFO__CHANGED(SENDER=0x25cad8,
this=error reading variable)
#15  004F9610 mseedit.pas:1510 TCUSTOMEDIT__DOCHANGE(this=error
reading variable)
#16  004F03C1 msedataedits.pas:2798
TCUSTOMDATAEDIT__DOCHANGE(this=error reading variable)
#17  004EE6A3 msedataedits.pas:1962
TCUSTOMDATAEDIT__VALUECHANGED(this=error reading variable)
#18  004FF3D7 msefiledialog.pas:2163
TCUSTOMFILENAMEEDIT1__VALUECHANGED(this=error reading variable)
#19  004F062C msedataedits.pas:2867
TCUSTOMSTRINGEDIT__SETVALUE(VALUE=0x2446f8
'/D:/FRAPS_Snapshots/25nov2013/', this=error reading variable)
#20  004F07CA msedataedits.pas:2905
TCUSTOMSTRINGEDIT__TEXTTOVALUE(ACCEPT=true, QUIET=false, this=error
reading variable)
#21  004FF253 msefiledialog.pas:2141
TCUSTOMFILENAMEEDIT1__TEXTTOVALUE(ACCEPT=true, QUIET=false,
this=error reading variable)
#22  004ED35C msedataedits.pas:1473
TCUSTOMDATAEDIT__CHECKVALUE(QUIET=false, this=error reading
variable)
#23  004F08A4 msedataedits.pas:2919
TCUSTOMSTRINGEDIT__CHECKVALUE(QUIET=false, this=error reading
variable)
#24  00549E05 msedialog.pas:350
TSTRINGDIALOGCONTROLLER__INTERNALEXECUTE(this=error reading
variable)
#25  00549A2A msedialog.pas:274
TDIALOGCONTROLLER__BUTTONACTION(ACTION=BA_CLICK, BUTTONINDEX=0,
this=error reading variable)
#26  004F73D6 mseedit.pas:675 TFRAMEBUTTON__MOUSEEVENT(INFO={EVENTKIND
= EK_BUTTONRELEASE, SHIFTSTATE = [], POS = {X = 345, Y = 24},
EVENTSTATE = [], TIMESTAMP = 3283187928, BUTTON = MB_LEFT},
INTF={INULLINTERFACE = {}, }, BUTTONINTF={INULLINTERFACE = {}, },
INDEX=0, this=error reading variable)
#27  004F845A mseedit.pas:1043
TCUSTOMBUTTONFRAME__MOUSEEVENT(INFO={EVENTKIND = EK_BUTTONRELEASE,
SHIFTSTATE = [], POS = {X = 345, Y = 24}, EVENTSTATE = [], TIMESTAMP =
3283187928, BUTTON = MB_LEFT}, this=error reading variable)
#28  00549C03 msedialog.pas:321
TDIALOGCONTROLLER__MOUSEEVENT(INFO={EVENTKIND = EK_BUTTONRELEASE,
SHIFTSTATE = [], POS = {X = 345, Y = 24}, EVENTSTATE = [], TIMESTAMP =
3283187928, BUTTON = MB_LEFT}, this=error reading variable)
#29  004EFD75 msedataedits.pas:2624
TCUSTOMDATAEDIT__MOUSEEVENT(INFO={EVENTKIND = EK_BUTTONRELEASE,
SHIFTSTATE = [], POS = {X = 345, Y = 24}, EVENTSTATE = [], TIMESTAMP =
3283187928, BUTTON = MB_LEFT}, this=error reading variable)
#30  0042940C msegui.pas:13726 TWINDOW__DISPATCHMOUSEEVENT(INFO={MOUSE
= {EVENTKIND = EK_BUTTONRELEASE, SHIFTSTATE = [], POS = {X = 345, Y =
24}, EVENTSTATE = [], TIMESTAMP = 3283187928, BUTTON = MB_LEFT}, WHEEL
= {EVENTKIND = EK_BUTTONRELEASE, SHIFTSTATE = [], POS = {X = 345, Y =
24}, EVENTSTATE = [], TIMESTAMP = 3283187928, WHEEL = MW_UP, DELTA =
0}}, CAPTURE=0x25cad8, this=error reading variable)
#31  0042CCC0 msegui.pas:15396
TINTERNALAPPLICATION__PROCESSMOUSEEVENT(EVENT=0x21bcd0, this=error
reading variable)
#32  0042EC66 msegui.pas:16340
TINTERNALAPPLICATION__EVENTLOOP(ONCE=false, this=error reading
variable)
#33  004300E7 msegui.pas:16935
TINTERNALAPPLICATION__DOEVENTLOOP(ONCE=false, this=error reading
variable)
#34  00467B25 mseapplication.pas:1618
TCUSTOMAPPLICATION__RUN(this=error reading variable)
#35  00402164 images_bmark.pas:11 main()

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] how to show png , jpg on timage

2014-02-28 Thread Ivanko B
 Now works with GraphicsMagick but fails (JPEG erorr) with FPIMAGE:

 It works


 ---
 #0  0040AC16 :0 fpc_raiseexception()
 #1  0054B438 :0 FPREADJPEG_JPEGERROR$J_COMMON_PTR()
 #2  0054CD9E :0

 Do you read a JPEG?


The attached testcase fails if switched to FPIMAGE, on same file set.

Also, using timestamp for timing in procedure tmainfo.startbm(const
sender: TObject); gives strange values - for instance 3 seconds
instead of real 4..5 ones (win7 x86_64).


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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] how to show png , jpg on timage

2014-02-28 Thread Ivanko B
Now it works and me can compare FPIMAGE  GM versions. GM is approx
2.5 times as faster in the testcase.
Both versions load CPU cores similarily, BTW. So GM wins by better alghorithms.

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] how to show png , jpg on timage

2014-02-27 Thread Ivanko B
It is thought as extension with a register unit.
=
Since GraphicsMagick is installed on WINDOWS with an installer
program, then probaly it needs including search path when loading DLLs
from MSEgui apps.

on X86:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\GraphicsMagick\Current\LibPath

on X86_64:
X86_64-version = KEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\GraphicsMagick\Current\LibPath
win32-version =
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\GraphicsMagick\Current\LibPath

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] how to show png , jpg on timage

2014-02-27 Thread Ivanko B
 What should me put in  msemagickstream.registerformats([],[],[]) for
PNG  JPEG formats ?

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] how to show png , jpg on timage

2014-02-27 Thread Ivanko B
pngfilter,jpgfilter
=
There're no these idents in the MSE* tree.

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] how to show png , jpg on timage

2014-02-27 Thread Ivanko B
It

[...]
initialization

  msemagickstream.registerformats(['png','jpeg'],
  [stockobjects.captions[sc_PNG_Image],
   stockobjects.captions[sc_JPEG_Image]],
   []
  );

[...]

causes exception Range Check Error :
#0  0040ABF6 :0 fpc_raiseexception()
#1  00457D65 :0 SYSUTILS_RUNERRORTOEXCEPT$LONGINT$POINTER$POINTER()
#2  0040C57E :0 SYSTEM_HANDLEERRORADDRFRAME$LONGINT$POINTER$POINTER()
#3  024FFEE4 :0 ??()
#4  004C17FC msegraphicstream.pas:245
REGISTERGRAPHICFORMAT(AFORMATLABEL=0x54fe90 'png', AREADPROC=0x52bc90
READGRAPHIC, AWRITEPROC=0x52b270 WRITEGRAPHIC,
AFILTERNAME=0x57dea8 'PNG Image', AFILEMASK={}, highAFILEMASK=-912791)
#5  0052C339 msemagickstream.pas:512 REGISTERFORMATS(LABELS={},
FILTERNAMES={}, FILEMASKS={}, highLABELS=1, highFILTERNAMES=1,
highFILEMASKS=-1)
#6  00432F3C main.pas:86 MAIN_init()
#7  0040C1E4 main.pas:0 fpc_initializeunits()
#8  7EFDE000 main.pas:0 ??()
#9  0040FFC1 main.pas:0 SYSTEM_EXE_ENTRY$TENTRYINFORMATION()

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] how to show png , jpg on timage

2014-02-26 Thread Ivanko B
GraphicsMagick  is very fast (just tasted) but how cat it (multiple
DLLs of 10+ Mb size) be set up once for using by any MSEgui in MS
WINDOWS...

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