[mssms] RE: sccm 2012 r2 sp1-->1602 questions

[Brian Illner]

Could you elaborate more on the issues that occur from the in place upgrades? 
We're looking at upgrading ConfigMgr from 2012R2SP1 in the near future.

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Behalf Of Denzik, Josh
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 3:35 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [mssms] RE: sccm 2012 r2 sp1-->1602 questions

I choose building a new environment. We needed to update server os and sql 
version. I've also heard through the MS grapevine there have been issues doing 
in place upgrades to 1511/1602.

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[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of HELMS, DAVID C
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Subject: [mssms] RE: sccm 2012 r2 sp1-->1602 questions

Maybe it's me, but wouldn't it just be simpler to build a whole new server with 
the latest OS, SQL, and ConfigMgr and then just migrate over the clients and 
everything else?

Granted my environment is less complicated and fewer clients than most.  I've 
never been in fan of in-place upgrades.

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Subject: [mssms] sccm 2012 r2 sp1-->1602 questions

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I have a VERY stable single primary Hyperv guest with OS = 2008 r2, 8 procs, 
32Gb ram, sql 2012 installed local, wsus 3.2 installed local with sql DB local, 
reporting services point also local with many custom reports.

I think I have sufficiently laid out the mine field...

So, I'm starting to make my task list for getting to 1602

Is there anything GLARINGLY wrong with this below? Or are the suggestions you 
would make to ease the update process?


· Reboot server

· Full sccm application backup

· Full backup of reporting db

· Full sccm server backup

· <-- deinstall current windows ADK

· --> install newer 1511 ADK

· --> install ADK patch and do manual process documented in kb3143760

· --> update mdt

· --> sccm 2012 current branch 1511

· --> current branch 1602

· <-- deinstall software update point

· <-- deinstall wsus role

· Delete old wsus db

· --> in place primary server OS upgrade to 2012 r2 sp1

· --> install wsus role and windows 10 hotfix

· --> install software update point

· --> in place upgrade of SQL to 2014

· --> upgrade SCCM clients




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[mssms] RE: sccm 2012 r2 sp1-->1602 questions

[Denzik, Josh]

I choose building a new environment. We needed to update server os and sql 
version. I've also heard through the MS grapevine there have been issues doing 
in place upgrades to 1511/1602.

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Behalf Of HELMS, DAVID C
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To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [mssms] RE: sccm 2012 r2 sp1-->1602 questions



Maybe it's me, but wouldn't it just be simpler to build a whole new server with 
the latest OS, SQL, and ConfigMgr and then just migrate over the clients and 
everything else?

Granted my environment is less complicated and fewer clients than most.  I've 
never been in fan of in-place upgrades.

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[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Jimmy Martin
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 4:10 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: [mssms] sccm 2012 r2 sp1-->1602 questions

***This is an EXTERNAL email. Please do not click on a link or open any 
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I have a VERY stable single primary Hyperv guest with OS = 2008 r2, 8 procs, 
32Gb ram, sql 2012 installed local, wsus 3.2 installed local with sql DB local, 
reporting services point also local with many custom reports.

I think I have sufficiently laid out the mine field...

So, I'm starting to make my task list for getting to 1602

Is there anything GLARINGLY wrong with this below? Or are the suggestions you 
would make to ease the update process?


· Reboot server

· Full sccm application backup

· Full backup of reporting db

· Full sccm server backup

· <-- deinstall current windows ADK

· --> install newer 1511 ADK

· --> install ADK patch and do manual process documented in kb3143760

· --> update mdt

· --> sccm 2012 current branch 1511

· --> current branch 1602

· <-- deinstall software update point

· <-- deinstall wsus role

· Delete old wsus db

· --> in place primary server OS upgrade to 2012 r2 sp1

· --> install wsus role and windows 10 hotfix

· --> install software update point

· --> in place upgrade of SQL to 2014

· --> upgrade SCCM clients




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[mssms] RE: sccm 2012 r2 sp1-->1602 questions

[HELMS, DAVID C]

Maybe it's me, but wouldn't it just be simpler to build a whole new server with 
the latest OS, SQL, and ConfigMgr and then just migrate over the clients and 
everything else?

Granted my environment is less complicated and fewer clients than most.  I've 
never been in fan of in-place upgrades.

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Behalf Of Jimmy Martin
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 4:10 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [mssms] sccm 2012 r2 sp1-->1602 questions

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I have a VERY stable single primary Hyperv guest with OS = 2008 r2, 8 procs, 
32Gb ram, sql 2012 installed local, wsus 3.2 installed local with sql DB local, 
reporting services point also local with many custom reports.

I think I have sufficiently laid out the mine field...

So, I'm starting to make my task list for getting to 1602

Is there anything GLARINGLY wrong with this below? Or are the suggestions you 
would make to ease the update process?


* Reboot server

* Full sccm application backup

* Full backup of reporting db

* Full sccm server backup

* <-- deinstall current windows ADK

* --> install newer 1511 ADK

* --> install ADK patch and do manual process documented in kb3143760

* --> update mdt

* --> sccm 2012 current branch 1511

* --> current branch 1602

* <-- deinstall software update point

* <-- deinstall wsus role

* Delete old wsus db

* --> in place primary server OS upgrade to 2012 r2 sp1

* --> install wsus role and windows 10 hotfix

* --> install software update point

* --> in place upgrade of SQL to 2014

* --> upgrade SCCM clients




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Phone: (901) 227-8209 | jimmy.mar...@bmhcc.org
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[mssms] RE: sccm 2012 r2 sp1-->1602 questions

[Schauer, Jesse (jes...@uidaho.edu)]

This is more or less the process we went through and for the most part it went 
well. We do not use MDT and have not done the SQL 2012 -> 2014 upgrade.

The OS upgrade process was the part we had the most problems with. There were a 
few places where the upgrade reset permissions that broke ConfigMgr 
administrative access to people who were not administrators on the ConfigMgr 
server.

* Non-admins could not remotely connect to the site server via the 
ConfigMgr console. This was caused by the WMI permissions for the root\SMS 
namespace being reset. We had to re-add "Enable Account" and "Remote Enable" 
permissions for the "SMS Admins" group to this namespace.

* The remote registry allowed paths was modified which broke the 
ability for non-admins to create boot media. We had to modify 
HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\SecurePipeServers\winreg\AllowedPaths and 
add an entry for "SOFTWARE\Microsoft\SMS".

My only other observation is that after the OS upgrade, we had some services 
(not directly related to ConfigMgr) that would not start. This was fixed after 
we fully patched the machine.

Jesse Schauer
Windows Server Administrator II
Endpoint Manangement Services
University of Idaho ITS

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Jimmy Martin
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 1:10 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [mssms] sccm 2012 r2 sp1-->1602 questions

I have a VERY stable single primary Hyperv guest with OS = 2008 r2, 8 procs, 
32Gb ram, sql 2012 installed local, wsus 3.2 installed local with sql DB local, 
reporting services point also local with many custom reports.

I think I have sufficiently laid out the mine field...

So, I'm starting to make my task list for getting to 1602

Is there anything GLARINGLY wrong with this below? Or are the suggestions you 
would make to ease the update process?


* Reboot server

* Full sccm application backup

* Full backup of reporting db

* Full sccm server backup

* <-- deinstall current windows ADK

* --> install newer 1511 ADK

* --> install ADK patch and do manual process documented in kb3143760

* --> update mdt

* --> sccm 2012 current branch 1511

* --> current branch 1602

* <-- deinstall software update point

* <-- deinstall wsus role

* Delete old wsus db

* --> in place primary server OS upgrade to 2012 r2 sp1

* --> install wsus role and windows 10 hotfix

* --> install software update point

* --> in place upgrade of SQL to 2014

* --> upgrade SCCM clients




Jimmy Martin | Engineer | Information Technology | BMHCC - CORPORATE
Phone: (901) 227-8209 | jimmy.mar...@bmhcc.org
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