Re: [mssms] UEFI transfering

2017-03-21 Thread Adam Juelich
Again, I think it depends on the organization and protocols in place.  But
yes, you're correct.

LAPS doesn't require UEFI so that is a moot point.

On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 8:32 AM, Chris Barnes <
chris.bar...@coretekservices.com> wrote:

> I would disagree with that. If you are undertaking a Windows 10
> deployment, you should be doing everything in your power to get to UEFI,
> and turning on Credential Guard. (And using LAPS).
>
>
>
> Those two items will provide you with protection against Pass the Hash /
> Pass the Ticket attacks, which are used in almost all / most reported
> breaches.
>
>
>
> Especially with the MGR2GPT tool in Win 10 1703, getting to UEFI is even
> easier as you can do it along with In Place upgrades.
>
>
>
> I think the biggest reason to upgrade to Win10 is security, and why would
> you upgrade to Win10, and leave it just as open to attack as Win 7?
>
>
>
> Device Guard is a different topic. Very secure, but at a cost of
> administrative overhead that I haven’t seen many take on yet.
>
>
>
>
>
> *Chris Barnes*
>
> *MCSE: Private Cloud|MCSE: Cloud Platform & Infrastructure*
>
> *Coretek Services | Microsoft Delivery Manager *
>
> ( 248.767.4415 <(248)%20767-4415> cell
>
> * chris.bar...@coretekservices.com
>
> :   http://www.coretekservices.com
>
>
>
> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsadmin@lists.
> myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Adam Juelich
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 21, 2017 8:57 AM
> *To:* mssms@lists.myitforum.com
> *Subject:* Re: [mssms] UEFI transfering
>
>
>
> You do not NEED to move to UEFI at this point.  You DO however if you want
> to leverage things like Device Guard and Credential Guard.  That is up to
> your organization to decide.
>
>
>
> If some of those secure things aren't a priority or necessity I would
> start leveraging UEFI for newer machines and support Legacy BIOS on your
> old machines until they are refreshed.
>
>
>
> Just my opinion, as every industry is different and has different
> priorities.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 3:46 PM, Kevin Ray 
> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
>
>
> I don't have knowledge on Bios upgrades. I would like to get more
> understanding on UEFI.
>
>
>
> So if a company wants to migrate windows 10 .. Do i need to check their
> machines current BIOS Setting related to UEFI ..What kind of instruction i
> need to check related to BIOS
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>





RE: [mssms] UEFI transfering

2017-03-21 Thread Chris Barnes
I would disagree with that. If you are undertaking a Windows 10 deployment, you 
should be doing everything in your power to get to UEFI, and turning on 
Credential Guard. (And using LAPS).

Those two items will provide you with protection against Pass the Hash / Pass 
the Ticket attacks, which are used in almost all / most reported breaches.

Especially with the MGR2GPT tool in Win 10 1703, getting to UEFI is even easier 
as you can do it along with In Place upgrades.

I think the biggest reason to upgrade to Win10 is security, and why would you 
upgrade to Win10, and leave it just as open to attack as Win 7?

Device Guard is a different topic. Very secure, but at a cost of administrative 
overhead that I haven’t seen many take on yet.


Chris Barnes
MCSE: Private Cloud|MCSE: Cloud Platform & Infrastructure
Coretek Services | Microsoft Delivery Manager
• 248.767.4415 cell
• chris.bar...@coretekservices.com
•   http://www.coretekservices.com<http://www.coretekservices.com/>

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Adam Juelich
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 8:57 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [mssms] UEFI transfering

You do not NEED to move to UEFI at this point.  You DO however if you want to 
leverage things like Device Guard and Credential Guard.  That is up to your 
organization to decide.

If some of those secure things aren't a priority or necessity I would start 
leveraging UEFI for newer machines and support Legacy BIOS on your old machines 
until they are refreshed.

Just my opinion, as every industry is different and has different priorities.

On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 3:46 PM, Kevin Ray 
mailto:kevinalive...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi All,

I don't have knowledge on Bios upgrades. I would like to get more understanding 
on UEFI.

So if a company wants to migrate windows 10 .. Do i need to check their 
machines current BIOS Setting related to UEFI ..What kind of instruction i need 
to check related to BIOS






Re: [mssms] UEFI transfering

2017-03-21 Thread Adam Juelich
You do not NEED to move to UEFI at this point.  You DO however if you want
to leverage things like Device Guard and Credential Guard.  That is up to
your organization to decide.

If some of those secure things aren't a priority or necessity I would start
leveraging UEFI for newer machines and support Legacy BIOS on your old
machines until they are refreshed.

Just my opinion, as every industry is different and has different
priorities.

On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 3:46 PM, Kevin Ray  wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> I don't have knowledge on Bios upgrades. I would like to get more
> understanding on UEFI.
>
> So if a company wants to migrate windows 10 .. Do i need to check their
> machines current BIOS Setting related to UEFI ..What kind of instruction i
> need to check related to BIOS
>
>




[mssms] UEFI transfering

2017-03-20 Thread Kevin Ray
Hi All,

I don't have knowledge on Bios upgrades. I would like to get more
understanding on UEFI.

So if a company wants to migrate windows 10 .. Do i need to check their
machines current BIOS Setting related to UEFI ..What kind of instruction i
need to check related to BIOS