RE: [mssms] clients offline
The right click tools don’t do what ConfigMgr does at all though – not even close so the fact that they do or don’t do something has no bearing on ConfigMgr. J From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Stuart Watret Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2017 4:25 PM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] clients offline To be fair the way it is doesn’t prove anything, how many times have we tried this: Icon says it’s available, right click tools say no……. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Jason Sandys Sent: 07 February 2017 19:18 To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> Subject: RE: [mssms] clients offline Not if it doesn’t work and/or doesn’t prove anything. The how is *always* important otherwise you’re just a glorified button pusher. [Image result for Jetson Work Pushing Button] J From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Stuart Watret Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2017 4:42 AM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> Subject: Re: [mssms] clients offline fine words, the truth for me is i only care if its online; not proving a channel and components….blah blah are available. so a ping would have been peachy for me. when were you born? :) On 5 Feb 2017, at 15:30, Jason Sandys <ja...@sandys.us<mailto:ja...@sandys.us>> wrote: Pings are useless in most modern environments. Also, pings don’t prove that the actual channel and components being used by the client agent are available. Finally, a ping is not something the server side can track in any way so would be useless for online/offline tracking anyway. The mechanism used piggy backs off of the client notification feature. If you are having issues with this, then you need to check the BGB component on your MPs as well as the availability of port 10123 from the client to the MP although it will fall back to 80 if 10123 is not available. J From: <listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>> on behalf of Stuart Watret <stu...@offshore-it.co.uk<mailto:stu...@offshore-it.co.uk>> Reply-To: "mssms@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com>" <mssms@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com>> Date: Saturday, February 4, 2017 at 5:21 AM To: "mssms@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com>" <mssms@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com>> Subject: [mssms] RE: clients offline More here: http://www.sparkhound.com/learn/blog/troubleshooting-client-online-status-in-sccm-1602 Suspect the idea was dreamt up by a millennial for whom ping is just too straight forward. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife Sent: 03 February 2017 22:31 To: 'mssms@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com>' Subject: [mssms] clients offline What exactly is SCCM using to determine that it needs to give a client the Offline icon? All of my secondary servers, except one, are showing Offline. I have tons of client PCs showing Offline. Some of these are legitimately turned off, or at least, off the network. But not my secondary servers. And not a lot of the client PCs. I can ping them, I can remote control them. Anyone know? Joe Heaton Information Technology Operations Branch Data and Technology Division CA Department of Fish and Wildlife 1700 9th Street, 3rd Floor Sacramento, CA 95811 Desk: (916) 323-1284 Every Californian should conserve water. Find out how at: <http://saveourwater.com/> SaveOurWater.com<http://saveourwater.com/> · Drought.CA.gov<http://drought.ca.gov/>
RE: [mssms] clients offline
To be fair the way it is doesn’t prove anything, how many times have we tried this: Icon says it’s available, right click tools say no……. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Jason Sandys Sent: 07 February 2017 19:18 To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [mssms] clients offline Not if it doesn’t work and/or doesn’t prove anything. The how is *always* important otherwise you’re just a glorified button pusher. [Image result for Jetson Work Pushing Button] J From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Stuart Watret Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2017 4:42 AM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> Subject: Re: [mssms] clients offline fine words, the truth for me is i only care if its online; not proving a channel and components….blah blah are available. so a ping would have been peachy for me. when were you born? :) On 5 Feb 2017, at 15:30, Jason Sandys <ja...@sandys.us<mailto:ja...@sandys.us>> wrote: Pings are useless in most modern environments. Also, pings don’t prove that the actual channel and components being used by the client agent are available. Finally, a ping is not something the server side can track in any way so would be useless for online/offline tracking anyway. The mechanism used piggy backs off of the client notification feature. If you are having issues with this, then you need to check the BGB component on your MPs as well as the availability of port 10123 from the client to the MP although it will fall back to 80 if 10123 is not available. J From: <listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>> on behalf of Stuart Watret <stu...@offshore-it.co.uk<mailto:stu...@offshore-it.co.uk>> Reply-To: "mssms@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com>" <mssms@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com>> Date: Saturday, February 4, 2017 at 5:21 AM To: "mssms@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com>" <mssms@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com>> Subject: [mssms] RE: clients offline More here: http://www.sparkhound.com/learn/blog/troubleshooting-client-online-status-in-sccm-1602 Suspect the idea was dreamt up by a millennial for whom ping is just too straight forward. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife Sent: 03 February 2017 22:31 To: 'mssms@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com>' Subject: [mssms] clients offline What exactly is SCCM using to determine that it needs to give a client the Offline icon? All of my secondary servers, except one, are showing Offline. I have tons of client PCs showing Offline. Some of these are legitimately turned off, or at least, off the network. But not my secondary servers. And not a lot of the client PCs. I can ping them, I can remote control them. Anyone know? Joe Heaton Information Technology Operations Branch Data and Technology Division CA Department of Fish and Wildlife 1700 9th Street, 3rd Floor Sacramento, CA 95811 Desk: (916) 323-1284 Every Californian should conserve water. Find out how at: <http://saveourwater.com/> SaveOurWater.com<http://saveourwater.com/> · Drought.CA.gov<http://drought.ca.gov/>
RE: [mssms] clients offline
Not if it doesn’t work and/or doesn’t prove anything. The how is *always* important otherwise you’re just a glorified button pusher. [Image result for Jetson Work Pushing Button] J From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Stuart Watret Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2017 4:42 AM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: Re: [mssms] clients offline fine words, the truth for me is i only care if its online; not proving a channel and components….blah blah are available. so a ping would have been peachy for me. when were you born? :) On 5 Feb 2017, at 15:30, Jason Sandys <ja...@sandys.us<mailto:ja...@sandys.us>> wrote: Pings are useless in most modern environments. Also, pings don’t prove that the actual channel and components being used by the client agent are available. Finally, a ping is not something the server side can track in any way so would be useless for online/offline tracking anyway. The mechanism used piggy backs off of the client notification feature. If you are having issues with this, then you need to check the BGB component on your MPs as well as the availability of port 10123 from the client to the MP although it will fall back to 80 if 10123 is not available. J From: <listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>> on behalf of Stuart Watret <stu...@offshore-it.co.uk<mailto:stu...@offshore-it.co.uk>> Reply-To: "mssms@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com>" <mssms@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com>> Date: Saturday, February 4, 2017 at 5:21 AM To: "mssms@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com>" <mssms@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com>> Subject: [mssms] RE: clients offline More here: http://www.sparkhound.com/learn/blog/troubleshooting-client-online-status-in-sccm-1602 Suspect the idea was dreamt up by a millennial for whom ping is just too straight forward. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife Sent: 03 February 2017 22:31 To: 'mssms@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com>' Subject: [mssms] clients offline What exactly is SCCM using to determine that it needs to give a client the Offline icon? All of my secondary servers, except one, are showing Offline. I have tons of client PCs showing Offline. Some of these are legitimately turned off, or at least, off the network. But not my secondary servers. And not a lot of the client PCs. I can ping them, I can remote control them. Anyone know? Joe Heaton Information Technology Operations Branch Data and Technology Division CA Department of Fish and Wildlife 1700 9th Street, 3rd Floor Sacramento, CA 95811 Desk: (916) 323-1284 Every Californian should conserve water. Find out how at: <http://saveourwater.com/> SaveOurWater.com<http://saveourwater.com/> · Drought.CA.gov<http://drought.ca.gov/>
Re: [mssms] clients offline
fine words, the truth for me is i only care if its online; not proving a channel and components….blah blah are available. so a ping would have been peachy for me. when were you born? :) On 5 Feb 2017, at 15:30, Jason Sandys <ja...@sandys.us<mailto:ja...@sandys.us>> wrote: Pings are useless in most modern environments. Also, pings don’t prove that the actual channel and components being used by the client agent are available. Finally, a ping is not something the server side can track in any way so would be useless for online/offline tracking anyway. The mechanism used piggy backs off of the client notification feature. If you are having issues with this, then you need to check the BGB component on your MPs as well as the availability of port 10123 from the client to the MP although it will fall back to 80 if 10123 is not available. J From: <listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>> on behalf of Stuart Watret <stu...@offshore-it.co.uk<mailto:stu...@offshore-it.co.uk>> Reply-To: "mssms@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com>" <mssms@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com>> Date: Saturday, February 4, 2017 at 5:21 AM To: "mssms@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com>" <mssms@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com>> Subject: [mssms] RE: clients offline More here: http://www.sparkhound.com/learn/blog/troubleshooting-client-online-status-in-sccm-1602 Suspect the idea was dreamt up by a millennial for whom ping is just too straight forward. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife Sent: 03 February 2017 22:31 To: 'mssms@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com>' Subject: [mssms] clients offline What exactly is SCCM using to determine that it needs to give a client the Offline icon? All of my secondary servers, except one, are showing Offline. I have tons of client PCs showing Offline. Some of these are legitimately turned off, or at least, off the network. But not my secondary servers. And not a lot of the client PCs. I can ping them, I can remote control them. Anyone know? Joe Heaton Information Technology Operations Branch Data and Technology Division CA Department of Fish and Wildlife 1700 9th Street, 3rd Floor Sacramento, CA 95811 Desk: (916) 323-1284 Every Californian should conserve water. Find out how at: <http://saveourwater.com/> SaveOurWater.com<http://saveourwater.com/> · Drought.CA.gov<http://drought.ca.gov/>
