RE: Announcing the first public release of UZIX
Hi, [UZIX] 1st of all: Adriano = *BIG* Fudeba :-D Yes. It ignores MSX-DOS2. Can it work with harddisks as well? MegaSCSI users can write the demo disk-image in a extended partition, select it at A: drive and boot UZIX without problems. Now UZIX can access any MSX disk-drive, floppy or HD. But you can't access MegaSCSI/IDE partitions for now (/dev/hda and similars are not implemented). Hm, sounds like you're not using the BDOS for disk I/O but writing/reading directly to/from the disk controller, right? What's the reason for that? Even if you're just using the sector read/write routines, you're saving a lot of hassle. BTW, will UZIX be open source (under GPL for example), so every one can fine-tune his own kernel, write drivers (e.g the /dev/hdX ;-)) - like Linux? Eric (waiting for some1 to do X on UZIX ;-)) MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put in the body (not subject) "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes :-) Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] (www.stack.nl/~wiebe/mailinglist/)
RE: Announcing the first public release of UZIX
[UZIX] For now, there are 50 utils compiled for UZIX. All of them are in the demo disks available on UZIX page. Ok, is it much work to compile an average util, like top or so? *grin* How much work is it to type 'make' ? ;-) Eric (sorry, couldn't resist ;-)) MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put in the body (not subject) "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes :-) Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] (www.stack.nl/~wiebe/mailinglist/)
Re: Announcing the first public release of UZIX
In my 5x86 100MHz, about 1 minute... I mean, including adaptions for Hi-Tech C. So top is not a good example. It was written from scratch. The time to port a program to UZIX depends of your C knowledge, the program size and complexity. I can't give you a precise value. For example, some proggies like bogomips, whoami and uname didn't need any port. Just compiling. But man, grep and tar, for example, took an entire day each one. Ah, ok. But maybe some other C-freaks like Eric Boon or Alex Wulms can help you! (And us!) I mean, not with virtual terminals, but just occupying the other terminal. E.g. user1 logs in, and starts 2 background jobs. Then, he types somting as "login user2", and user2 logs in. He can now also start bg jobs. When he does top, he sees processes of user1 and user2! Can Uzix do this already? Oh, yes. I confess I never tried it, but it's possible. If it doesn't work, you discovred a bug, and I'll fix it. I'll try it tonight... I tried it, but it doesn't work! I'm getting error's like: fork failed. Please retry (on a 128kB MSX, like 8250, 8245 of Philips. Worked fine on those machines, although it was swapping a lot (from diskdrive!!). Strange fact: top shows -32kb FREE!) There is no reason for UZIX hanging up because you have 512Kb RAM. No, it crashed with MORE than 512 kB RAM. Anyway. There is no reason for UZIX hanging up because you have 512k RAM or more. OK. Now, I also tested it on my Sony HB-F700D, with 256kB RAM (to see if it did less swapping!). AND: it fails! After loading (Loading UZIX..), I get one line of garbage at the top of the screen instead of Welcome to UZIX 0.1.2 (or whatever)... So, I guess I found another bug! By the way: I noticed that Suspending a process with CTRL-Z doesn't work yet. Will it, soon? Another note: top is VERY slow on a 128kB MSX2... Swapping? Grtjs, Manuel ((m)ICQ UIN 41947405) PS: MSX 4 EVER! (Questions? See: http://www.faq.msxnet.org/) PPS: Visit my homepage at http://www.sci.kun.nl/marie/home/manuelbi/ MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put in the body (not subject) "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes :-) Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] (www.stack.nl/~wiebe/mailinglist/)
RE: Announcing the first public release of UZIX
Eric, 1st of all: Adriano = *BIG* Fudeba :-D "Better fudeba than nothing!" X-D Hm, sounds like you're not using the BDOS for disk I/O but writing/reading directly to/from the disk controller, right? Right. What's the reason for that? New filesystem. Also BDOS only understands FAT and uses a lot of variables in RAM. Even if you're just using the sector read/write routines, you're saving a lot of hassle. All the filesystem routines are implemented, and the lowest point is just one: read or write a disk sector. BTW, will UZIX be open source (under GPL for example), so every one can fine-tune his own kernel, write drivers (e.g the /dev/hdX ;-)) - like Linux? Yes. Eric (waiting for some1 to do X on UZIX ;-)) Preferabily, for MSX1 SCREEN2... X-D Adriano Camargo Rodrigues da Cunha ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Engenharia de Computacao - UNICAMP http://www.adrpage.cjb.net MSX-TR:I have one.And you? * I watch Novell at 8 from monday to saturday. And Lantastic on sundays. * MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put in the body (not subject) "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes :-) Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] (www.stack.nl/~wiebe/mailinglist/)
Re: Announcing the first public release of UZIX
Manuel, I mean, not with virtual terminals, but just occupying the other terminal. E.g. user1 logs in, and starts 2 background jobs. Then, he types somting as "login user2", and user2 logs in. He can now also start bg jobs. When he does top, he sees processes of user1 and user2! Can Uzix do this already? I tried it, but it doesn't work! I'm getting error's like: fork failed. Please retry Low memory... Try with 256k or 512k RAM. (on a 128kB MSX, like 8250, 8245 of Philips. Worked fine on those machines, although it was swapping a lot (from diskdrive!!). It's nop swapping. It's buffer and inode flushing and /dev/console access. Yeah, it's not very nice. Sometime in the future I will work on it. Strange fact: top shows -32kb FREE!) Hum... I think you found a bug. :) Now, I also tested it on my Sony HB-F700D, with 256kB RAM (to see if it did less swapping!). AND: it fails! After loading (Loading UZIX..), I get one line of garbage at the top of the screen instead of Welcome to UZIX 0.1.2 (or whatever)... Try loading more two or three times. See if the error persists. So, I guess I found another bug! It's not a bug. It's a wrong behaviour. I never noticed this. Can you give me more info (in private) about your Sony? I think I'll send you a modified UZIX version for discovering the problem... By the way: I noticed that Suspending a process with CTRL-Z doesn't work yet. No. And also, CONTROL+C stop all background processes. Things to work on in the future... :) Another note: top is VERY slow on a 128kB MSX2... Swapping? How "slow"? For updates? Or displaying lines? Change the update delay with s key. The disk access that delays the display is the same I explained above. Adriano Camargo Rodrigues da Cunha ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Engenharia de Computacao - UNICAMP http://www.adrpage.cjb.net MSX-TR:I have one.And you? * 233MHz ain't fast enough! * MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put in the body (not subject) "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes :-) Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] (www.stack.nl/~wiebe/mailinglist/)
Re: Announcing the first public release of UZIX
Manuel, Oh, I forgot to tell you I found another bug: try man fld | more It's not a bug. It's a missing feature. In UZIX page you can read that sash doesn't has pipe nor redirection. ["what? manuel didn't read the manual?" :)] This works on normal Unix systems, but on UZIX I get an error that | can't be found in the manual or something Or did I use the wrong pipe-symbol? You want pipe? Do a "man fld". The output of /usr/man/man1/fld.man will be piped to sash 'more' internal command. Try playing with 'PAGER' environment. Do a 'set PAGER cat' and a 'man fld'. Adriano Camargo Rodrigues da Cunha ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Engenharia de Computacao - UNICAMP http://www.adrpage.cjb.net MSX-TR:I have one.And you? * Windows is not bad. Just wait it be finished. * MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put in the body (not subject) "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes :-) Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] (www.stack.nl/~wiebe/mailinglist/)
FAT16 and disks...
Manuel, Manoel, My name is Manuel :) In portuguese Manoel and Manual has a very similar pronumce. And here you can found the both names... Then this is a final version, now only upgrades and new features, not? Maybe, but don't expect too much. Ok... Windows 2010 can be launch first? :) I don't wanted to mean that. Start block is used to indicate the bootsector of the disk. And for found informations like size of FAT, number o AT, directory entries, etc... I made my "home work". There is not any format utility for FAT16 (I think) And do you know a easy way to clear a MegaSCSI partition? I don't a program for check the "bad cluster" and clear FAT and DIR entries. I found a japanese program called BADSCAN and it is very usefull (is very usefull, the source code is included!). Now the only way is erase all files and do a "Improve" with "clear FAT entries" actived. Don't think so. FAT16 takes a lot of time when calculating free disk space. So it is boring using all the time FAT16. It is nice to use it for interchange information with a PC, or for big EVAs :) It's I know... Is a good time to drink "mate", go to W.C. or made a zap in TV channels (if you use your MSX in a TV). And what is "mate"? "Mate" is a tea... Are you think that brazilians only drink coffe? Yes, you can work with partitions bigger than 32Mb. But beware with programs that modify FAT (CHKDSK /F) or so!! Ok uncle! :) I'm having a lot of problems with ASPI Zips! My PC refuses to read this disks! I believe that only in Win95 and can do it and I don't use it (look in message header: PINE.LNX...). I've a lot of things to transfer for write another CD (EVAs! I'm with 16 EVAs including openning and ending from "Oh my Godness", "Gundan", "Evangelion" and videos converted from Sega Saturn). Furthermore, some programs like Multi Mente don't work right with FAT16, because it don't use 'compatible' commands or rutines. Nope... Hey! The "final version" in your page displays "0.2" and isn't work properlly. I believe that you copy the wrong file... You can check it? Or you are following the Microsoft-Style because the last version runs and the actual not... :) Ah! Only for spanish guys! Do you knew that Telefonica bought a big brazilian ISP? And saturday we'll change the our long distance call system... I'm afraid --- Giovanni Nunes [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/ResearchTriangle/2472/ MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put in the body (not subject) "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes :-) Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] (www.stack.nl/~wiebe/mailinglist/)
Making our own mouse-mats!
Hello, If there are enough people interested I will do my best to get these Mouse-Mats to Holland, if not then... I'd like to buy one, but at the fair... not by postal order. Sure, but are you still interested when the costs of shipment are added to this price? I still haven't heared anything from the firm that is selling these mats... Maybe we have a other solution. We now have a address in Holland where we can make our own mats... maybe you guys have idea what we have to put on that mat to make it interesting. --[ MARI ]-- MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put in the body (not subject) "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes :-) Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] (www.stack.nl/~wiebe/mailinglist/)
Re: HomePage Updated
Hello, Today I have updated my HomePage again. - Review MSX-fair Tilburg '99 added Ehm, where? I only see TB'98 and ZV'98! Sorry, I forgot the to change the "Don't Publish"-flag into "Publish". Tonight the preview of the Tilburg '99 fair wil also be on the net. (The photographs are allready available at FuNet for a very long time!). --[ MARI ]-- MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put in the body (not subject) "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes :-) Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] (www.stack.nl/~wiebe/mailinglist/)
RE: Moonsound musics
I have downloaded all the music files for moonsound from funet and the ones from the page of Manuel Pazos. Where can I find more musics for Moonsound? On my HD! :) PERO QUE TIO MAS CACHONDO ;) (Tran: What a funny guy!) Ole tus tamagos! Seriously: Are they to be released? Soon? CYA MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put in the body (not subject) "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes :-) Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] (www.stack.nl/~wiebe/mailinglist/)
Matra Computer: announcing free shipping mats
Matra® Computer will be shipping mouse mats worldwide 100% free of charge. Check them out at http://www.fut.es/~xrc/MSX/MSXMAT21.HTM Orders: please contact miss Z-0 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] We accept most payment methods: cash, money order, bank transfer, check and soon major credit cards. Special $2 off distributors discount (10+ units). Kiss you lot. Madonna® Mark Two Hi-Tech + Beauty Reverse-Engineering Matra® Computer Automations MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put in the body (not subject) "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes :-) Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] (www.stack.nl/~wiebe/mailinglist/)
OFF: Nice Mag (was Re: Mat Attack)
By the way... there is a nice magazine :P near the mat... What is it??? A hot X-manga French mag. Interested? 8;d Kiss you lot. MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put in the body (not subject) "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes :-) Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] (www.stack.nl/~wiebe/mailinglist/)
Re: Guardic practice mode
Hi, For years I've been wondering how to enter the practice mode in Guardic. I don't know if I remember correctly, but I think it was pushing the left and right cursor alternating. I remember having entered that practice mode some time, so... Bye Rieks __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put in the body (not subject) "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes :-) Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] (www.stack.nl/~wiebe/mailinglist/)
