RE: IDE interface not detected

2001-05-03 Thread Hans Otten

I bought a IDE too at Tilburg (with RS232 interface) and it works.
Try to phone Rob Hiep, addresses etc at www.msx.ch

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From: eMeSiX [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 02 May 2001 22:47
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 Your error search method is fine: isolate components and the remaining
part
 must be in error.
 (Occams razor for the philosophical minded).

 Since the IDE interface works (can you use IDEfload on the other MSX?) it
 must be your MSX :(
 Do other cartridges still work in the slot?
 Is there dirt on the connectors of the slot? Since it has been working and
 then suddenly stopped it might be that the connector was corroded or
 otherwise stopped making good contact.
 Cleaning might help.


I bougt a ide interface at tilburg 2001
but when i came home i didn't work
now i am trying to contact somebody butt no reply :-((


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Re: IDE interface not detected

2001-05-03 Thread Laurens Holst

  From more experiments, I found a clue.
  A R_O_M_ cartridge is not accessed. So my intermediate conclusion is
 that CS1/2/12 signal(s) is/are not functional (memory mapper cartridge
 works!). Maybe the IDE interface uses any of those signals...?

Yes, the IDE-interface uses memory-mapped I/O, and not the I/O ports like other
devices. So if ROMs don't work, the IDE-interface won't work either. And even if
it used 'normal' I/O ports, it still wouldn't have worked because the software
drivers are also in ROM.

So I suggest you get your MSX fixed...
But!!! I know how you feel. (does that help?)


~Grauw




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Re: IDE interface not detected

2001-05-03 Thread Jon De Schrijder


 
 
  Maybe some broken program accidentally wiped the FlashROM. Try to re-flash
  the IDE BIOS.
 
  Not possible. IDEFLOAD cannot detect the IDE interface.

then you have to select the apropriate slotnumber yourself (with the
cursorkeys); (when the flashrom is completely erased, the computer can't
detect it; this is normal)


However, it seems to me that your MSX is broken (or not really MSX
compatible ?!) because it doesn't support the /CS1 signal on the
cartridgeconnector which is used by the IDE interface when reading the
ROM contents. This also explains why some games in ROM won't run on your
machine...

Success with the repair :-/

Jon


 
  Thanks for your attention.
 
 Greetings from The Got Still Crazy,
- Jun.
 
 * As I already mentioned, it is detected on another MSX2 machine.
 
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Re: IDE interface not detected

2001-05-03 Thread Mari van den Broek

Hello,

I bougt a ide interface at tilburg 2001
but when i came home i didn't work
now i am trying to contact somebody butt no reply :-((


Don't try to contact SOMEBODY but contact the right person (Sunrise!)...
Send mail to:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: IDE interface not detected

2001-05-03 Thread eMeSiX


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From: Mari van den Broek [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 8:45 PM
Subject: Re: IDE interface not detected


 Hello,
 
 I bougt a ide interface at tilburg 2001
 but when i came home i didn't work
 now i am trying to contact somebody butt no reply :-((
 
 
 Don't try to contact SOMEBODY but contact the right person (Sunrise!)...
 Send mail to:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED]

ui have a 070 number butt no answer there.
and teh web site is no info about it
i will mail them and see


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Re: IDE interface not detected

2001-05-02 Thread Jun-Sung Kim

 
 Maybe some broken program accidentally wiped the FlashROM. Try to re-flash 
 the IDE BIOS.
 
 Not possible. IDEFLOAD cannot detect the IDE interface.

 Thanks for your attention.

Greetings from The Got Still Crazy,
   - Jun.

* As I already mentioned, it is detected on another MSX2 machine.


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RE: IDE interface not detected

2001-05-02 Thread Hans Otten

Your error search method is fine: isolate components and the remaining part
must be in error.
(Occams razor for the philosophical minded).

Since the IDE interface works (can you use IDEfload on the other MSX?) it
must be your MSX :(
Do other cartridges still work in the slot?
Is there dirt on the connectors of the slot? Since it has been working and
then suddenly stopped it might be that the connector was corroded or
otherwise stopped making good contact.
Cleaning might help.



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From: Jun-Sung Kim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 02 May 2001 12:37
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Subject: Re: IDE interface not detected


 
 Maybe some broken program accidentally wiped the FlashROM. Try to re-flash

 the IDE BIOS.
 
 Not possible. IDEFLOAD cannot detect the IDE interface.

 Thanks for your attention.

Greetings from The Got Still Crazy,
   - Jun.

* As I already mentioned, it is detected on another MSX2 machine.


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RE: IDE interface not detected

2001-05-02 Thread Albert Beevendorp

At 12:42 2-5-01 +0200, you wrote:
Since the IDE interface works (can you use IDEfload on the other MSX?) it
must be your MSX :(
Do other cartridges still work in the slot?
Is there dirt on the connectors of the slot? Since it has been working and
then suddenly stopped it might be that the connector was corroded or
otherwise stopped making good contact.
Cleaning might help.

I have a feeling IDEFLOAD searches for ID# in the interface and if the 
flashrom is totally blanked out. the program couldn't find it anymore.


GreeTz, BiFi

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Re: IDE interface not detected

2001-05-02 Thread eMeSiX


 Your error search method is fine: isolate components and the remaining
part
 must be in error.
 (Occams razor for the philosophical minded).

 Since the IDE interface works (can you use IDEfload on the other MSX?) it
 must be your MSX :(
 Do other cartridges still work in the slot?
 Is there dirt on the connectors of the slot? Since it has been working and
 then suddenly stopped it might be that the connector was corroded or
 otherwise stopped making good contact.
 Cleaning might help.


I bougt a ide interface at tilburg 2001
but when i came home i didn't work
now i am trying to contact somebody butt no reply :-((


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Re: IDE interface not detected

2001-05-02 Thread Jun-Sung Kim

On Wed, May 02, 2001 at 12:42:38PM +0200, Hans Otten wrote:
 Your error search method is fine: isolate components and the remaining part
 must be in error.
 (Occams razor for the philosophical minded).
 
 Yes I think so ;)

 Since the IDE interface works (can you use IDEfload on the other MSX?) it
 must be your MSX :(
 Do other cartridges still work in the slot?
 Is there dirt on the connectors of the slot? Since it has been working and
 then suddenly stopped it might be that the connector was corroded or
 otherwise stopped making good contact.
 Cleaning might help.

 From more experiments, I found a clue.
 A R_O_M_ cartridge is not accessed. So my intermediate conclusion is
that CS1/2/12 signal(s) is/are not functional (memory mapper cartridge
works!). Maybe the IDE interface uses any of those signals...?

 Or is another story possible?

 My MSX is going to die... :(

 - Jun.


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IDE interface not detected

2001-05-01 Thread Jun-Sung Kim


 Hi,

 Suddenly, yes, suddenly, my pretty Sunrise ATA-IDE interface does
not work on my lovely MSX2+(Sony XV) :(

 No initial message is displayed. It looks like that the interface
is not detected.

 The strange thing is that it is detected(initial message is displayed)
on another MSX2 machine(Daewoo).

 I did several tests to solve the problem.
 - I checked power: ok
 - I changed the slot: the same result. Other cartridge works fine
   even in the same slot on which the IDE interface does not work.
 - I dumped the content of the area occupied by the IDE interface:
   All are filled with FFh.

 What's wrong? Any clue?
 The IDE interface uses special signals that other cartridges
seldom use?

Greets from The Got Crazy,
  - Jun.


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Re: IDE interface not detected

2001-05-01 Thread Maarten ter Huurne

On Wednesday 02 May 2001 02:11, you wrote:

  - I dumped the content of the area occupied by the IDE interface:
All are filled with FFh.

Maybe some broken program accidentally wiped the FlashROM. Try to re-flash 
the IDE BIOS.

Bye,
Maarten

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