Re: Nice number (was: Japanese voltage)

1999-09-03 Thread Laurens Holst

> > I still don't get it.
> > 
> > ~Grauw
> > 
> 
> Why aren't we surprised ???
> 
> 
> Sighhh, talking about a completely useless message !!
> You could have cut almost the entire message.
> No wonder that the bandwith of the Net is getting to small.

I was aware of that.

Still I thought the message had some use.
Somehow I don't remember the use anymore...


~Grauw


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Re: Nice number (was: Japanese voltage)

1999-09-03 Thread David Heremans

Laurens Holst wrote:
> > By the way, the inverse is not always true: If the number of binary
> digits
> > is prime, is the number itself is not guaranteed to be prime.
> Example:
> 2047.
> >
> > Bye,
> > Maarten
> 
> I still don't get it.
> 
> ~Grauw
> 

Why aren't we surprised ???


Sighhh, talking about a completely useless message !!
You could have cut almost the entire message.
No wonder that the bandwith of the Net is getting to small.


David

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Re: Nice number (was: Japanese voltage)

1999-09-02 Thread Laurens Holst

> > Of course it is. Not only 127 is prime, but also
> >127=1+2+4+8+16+32+64. Knuth lovers may like to know that
> >numbers in the form 11...b can only be prime if
> >the number of digits is prime too (demonstration left to
> >the reader).
>
> :)
>
>
> Well, I'm a reader, so here comes a demonstation:
>
> Number N has D digits, which are all ones.
>
> Assume D is not a prime number.
> So there are numbers A and B such that A*B=D (A>1,B>1).
>
> Now make numbers C[X], where C[X] is B ones followed by B*X zeroes.
> For every X, the numbers C[X] are dividable by the number "B ones".
>
> The sum of C[0]..C[A-1] is N.
> So N is also dividable by the number "B ones".
> Since B>1, "B ones" is also greater than 1, so N is not prime.
>
>
> Example:
>
> N = 255 = b (8 ones)
> 8=4*2 (choice 2*4 is also possible)
>
> C[0] =   11b
> C[1] = 1100b
> C[2] =   11b
> C[3] = 1100b
> sum  = b = 255 = N
>
> C[0]..C[3] are dividable by 11b (3), so the sum is too. And that sum is N,
> so N is dividable by 3 and therefore not prime.
>
>
> By the way, the inverse is not always true: If the number of binary digits
> is prime, is the number itself is not guaranteed to be prime. Example:
2047.
>
> Bye,
> Maarten


I still don't get it.


~Grauw


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Nice number (was: Japanese voltage)

1999-09-02 Thread Maarten ter Huurne

At 04:29 PM 9/1/99 -0300, you wrote:

>   Of course it is. Not only 127 is prime, but also 
>127=1+2+4+8+16+32+64. Knuth lovers may like to know that
>numbers in the form 11...b can only be prime if
>the number of digits is prime too (demonstration left to 
>the reader).

:)


Well, I'm a reader, so here comes a demonstation:

Number N has D digits, which are all ones.

Assume D is not a prime number.
So there are numbers A and B such that A*B=D (A>1,B>1).

Now make numbers C[X], where C[X] is B ones followed by B*X zeroes.
For every X, the numbers C[X] are dividable by the number "B ones".

The sum of C[0]..C[A-1] is N.
So N is also dividable by the number "B ones".
Since B>1, "B ones" is also greater than 1, so N is not prime.


Example:

N = 255 = b (8 ones)
8=4*2 (choice 2*4 is also possible)

C[0] =   11b
C[1] = 1100b
C[2] =   11b
C[3] = 1100b
sum  = b = 255 = N

C[0]..C[3] are dividable by 11b (3), so the sum is too. And that sum is N,
so N is dividable by 3 and therefore not prime.


By the way, the inverse is not always true: If the number of binary digits
is prime, is the number itself is not guaranteed to be prime. Example: 2047.

Bye,
Maarten



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