[mb-style] RFC STYLE-97: Move medley to an attribute of performance of

2012-02-21 Thread Alex Mauer
Expiration: 2012-02-28

This RFC is to move the “medley” relationship to an attribute of the 
“performance of” relatonship.

More details in jira, http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/STYLE-97

This was not previously discussed.


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Re: [mb-style] RFC-346. Style/Language/Vietnamese : Punctuation change

2012-02-21 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 20:38, jesus2099 hta3s836gzac...@jetable.org wrote:
 (sorry for my possibly awful English below)

 I’d like to refine last change for the Vietnamese guideline page,
 specifically the punctuation part of it.

I object to this. From the last time this was discussed, it was fairly
obvious (to me) that the English style is by a large margin the
biggest both in print and online. See
http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Talk:Style/Language/Vietnamese#Reference_.28no_space.29

Having just come back from vacation in Hanoi (thus the slow reply) I
can say (anecdotally) that every single item with print (mostly food)
that I have brought back uses English style punctuation.

I don't think it's feasible to defer to the cover for something that
is so hard to judge: how much space before the punctuation is enough
to justify a half-width space? The result will simply be inconsistent,
with most track lists not being vetted against a cover and editors
just picking the style they prefer.

There is a very simple solution to this, similar to the capitalization
problem: Use a Picard plugin to convert to the style you prefer while
leaving the database internally consistent and consistent with common
usage.

-- 
Philip Jägenstedt

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Re: [mb-style] RFC STYLE-97: Move medley to an attribute of performance of

2012-02-21 Thread Alex Mauer
On 02/21/2012 04:47 PM, Alex Mauer wrote:
 Expiration: 2012-02-28

 This RFC is to move the “medley” relationship to an attribute of the
 “performance of” relatonship.

 More details in jira, http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/STYLE-97

 This was not previously discussed.

Proposed update to “performance of” relationship page at 
http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/User:Hawke/Proposal/Performance-medley


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Re: [mb-style] RFC STYLE-97: Move medley to an attribute of performance of

2012-02-21 Thread Nikki
http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Medley_Relationship_Type will also need 
updating if the separate recording-work relationship goes away.

Currently the displayed phrase is {partial} {live} {instrumental} 
{cover} performance of, where would medley go in here?

This will require one of the devs to write a conversion script, so it 
may take some time to be implemented. An alternative would be to add the 
attributes to the existing medley relationship.

Alex Mauer wrote:
 Expiration: 2012-02-28
 
 This RFC is to move the “medley” relationship to an attribute of the 
 “performance of” relatonship.
 
 More details in jira, http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/STYLE-97
 
 This was not previously discussed.

You were discussing it on IRC:
http://chatlogs.musicbrainz.org/musicbrainz/2012/2012-02/2012-02-21.html#T22-24-38-528382

At one point there was a discussion about whether partial should be 
used or not which may be something people here want to consider.

Nikki

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