On Mon, Apr 02, 2012 at 07:16:55AM +0200, Nikki wrote:
Hello,
Prompted by http://musicbrainz.org/edit/17114614, I'm wondering what
other people think the definition of a founder is - is it simply any of
the original members of the group, or specifically the person/people who
decided to create the group?
If you think it's the latter definition, does anything change (for cases
like that edit) when the person who decided to create the group was
never actually a member themselves? (The members were chosen by auditions)
I think it's the latter of your options; as I was stating earlier on IRC
I think that 'founder' and 'member' should be separate relationships,
the former being this person came up with the idea or some of the ideas
defining a group, or played a major role in bringing the group into
existence or something to that effect and the latter being the
more-mundane current relationship, i.e. this person performs or records
with the group on a regular basis (but don't quote either of those
descriptions in any proposals without at least some editing!).
Ideally, the interface should be set up so that adding a 'founder'
relationship is no more difficult than it currently is to add a founder
attribute to a 'member' relationship; perhaps this is the sort of thing
bitmap's SoC relationship editor can help solve.
For many/most groups, of course, the distinction doesn't need to be
made, since in most cases people don't found groups they won't be part
of. (This, of course, is why the interface concern is so important -- we
don't want to make the typical case harder for the average editor.)
Ideally some sort of support for generations (or some more general
form of member subgrouping) would also improve this situation, since as
HibiscusKazeneko rightly points out there isn't a way to track that
currently. Doing this right might easily be a schema change, though
(it'd be obnoxious to do with our current attribute system,
certainly...), so we can save that for a later discussion.
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