[mb-style] RFC STYLE-276: Remove attributes from the performing orchestra relationship
The option to select chamber or symphony ends up being pretty much a random well it's on the orchestra name so it will probably be right pick, and it doesn't really offer any useful info. Can we get rid of it? (I have seen many other classical editors share this opinion of the attribute, but is there anyone who thinks it's actually useful?) I would like to have an artist type orchestra and possibly also chamber orchestra and symphony orchestra, but that's a separate issue :) It's the only place where this kind of info belongs though IMO. Ticket is http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/STYLE-276 Expected RFV date is Jan 3. -- Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren ___ MusicBrainz-style mailing list MusicBrainz-style@lists.musicbrainz.org http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-style
Re: [mb-style] RFC STYLE-276: Remove attributes from the performingorchestra relationship
+1 Brant Gibbard Toronto, ON http://bgibbard.ca http://bgibbard.ca/ From: musicbrainz-style-boun...@lists.musicbrainz.org [mailto:musicbrainz-style-boun...@lists.musicbrainz.org] On Behalf Of Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren Sent: December-27-13 10:51 AM To: MusicBrainz Style Discussion Subject: [mb-style] RFC STYLE-276: Remove attributes from the performingorchestra relationship The option to select chamber or symphony ends up being pretty much a random well it's on the orchestra name so it will probably be right pick, and it doesn't really offer any useful info. Can we get rid of it? (I have seen many other classical editors share this opinion of the attribute, but is there anyone who thinks it's actually useful?) I would like to have an artist type orchestra and possibly also chamber orchestra and symphony orchestra, but that's a separate issue :) It's the only place where this kind of info belongs though IMO. Ticket is http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/STYLE-276 Expected RFV date is Jan 3. -- Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren ___ MusicBrainz-style mailing list MusicBrainz-style@lists.musicbrainz.org http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-style
Re: [mb-style] RFV STYLE-272: Subgroup Relationship Type
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Re: [mb-style] RFC STYLE-276: Remove attributes from the performing orchestra relationship
On 12/27/2013 09:50 AM, Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren wrote: The option to select chamber or symphony ends up being pretty much a random well it's on the orchestra name so it will probably be right pick, and it doesn't really offer any useful info. Can we get rid of it? (I have seen many other classical editors share this opinion of the attribute, but is there anyone who thinks it's actually useful?) I would like to have an artist type orchestra and possibly also chamber orchestra and symphony orchestra, but that's a separate issue :) It's the only place where this kind of info belongs though IMO. +1 to all of this. I think there may be a few cases where a symphony orchestra had a subset perform as a chamber orchestra but were credited under the same name, but I think those are rare enough not to be much of a problem. (and at least there we can note it in the group’s annotation instead of hoping we get it right in the AR). ___ MusicBrainz-style mailing list MusicBrainz-style@lists.musicbrainz.org http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-style
Re: [mb-style] RFC STYLE-276: Remove attributes from the performing orchestra relationship
Agreed, there are many orchestras that are a sort of extension of the conductor and don't have a fixed membership (although obviously the conductor is likely often going to bring in people he has worked with before and trusts). These groups often expand or contract wildly depending on the format and instrumentation of the pieces being performed or recorded but are still listed under the same name. Brant Gibbard Toronto, ON http://bgibbard.ca -Original Message- From: musicbrainz-style-boun...@lists.musicbrainz.org [mailto:musicbrainz-style-boun...@lists.musicbrainz.org] On Behalf Of Alex Mauer Sent: December-27-13 11:01 AM To: musicbrainz-style@lists.musicbrainz.org Subject: Re: [mb-style] RFC STYLE-276: Remove attributes from the performing orchestra relationship On 12/27/2013 09:50 AM, Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren wrote: The option to select chamber or symphony ends up being pretty much a random well it's on the orchestra name so it will probably be right pick, and it doesn't really offer any useful info. Can we get rid of it? (I have seen many other classical editors share this opinion of the attribute, but is there anyone who thinks it's actually useful?) I would like to have an artist type orchestra and possibly also chamber orchestra and symphony orchestra, but that's a separate issue :) It's the only place where this kind of info belongs though IMO. +1 to all of this. I think there may be a few cases where a symphony orchestra had a subset perform as a chamber orchestra but were credited under the same name, but I think those are rare enough not to be much of a problem. (and at least there we can note it in the group’s annotation instead of hoping we get it right in the AR). ___ MusicBrainz-style mailing list MusicBrainz-style@lists.musicbrainz.org http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-style ___ MusicBrainz-style mailing list MusicBrainz-style@lists.musicbrainz.org http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-style
Re: [mb-style] RFC STYLE-276: Remove attributes from the performing orchestra relationship
2013/12/27 Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren reosare...@gmail.com The option to select chamber or symphony ends up being pretty much a random well it's on the orchestra name so it will probably be right pick, and it doesn't really offer any useful info. Can we get rid of it? (I have seen many other classical editors share this opinion of the attribute, but is there anyone who thinks it's actually useful?) I would like to have an artist type orchestra and possibly also chamber orchestra and symphony orchestra, but that's a separate issue :) It's the only place where this kind of info belongs though IMO. Ticket is http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/STYLE-276 Expected RFV date is Jan 3. I believe this was meant for example for (unspecified subparts of) symphony orchestras performing as a chamber orchestra of a chamber music score, as opposed to the full orchestra performing an upscaled version of the same score. Not sure I am being quite clear here. And I agree that the implementation was not very easy to understand.As long as this situation is covered in some other way, I agree with removing those attributes. -- Frederic Da Vitoria (davitof) Membre de l'April - « promouvoir et défendre le logiciel libre » - http://www.april.org ___ MusicBrainz-style mailing list MusicBrainz-style@lists.musicbrainz.org http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-style
