Re: [mb-style] Remove honorary titles

2015-03-20 Thread David Gasaway
http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/STYLE-487

On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 3:26 PM, Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren
reosare...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi!

 It's fine to have discussion here, but please also add a style ticket :)

You know, I started to create a ticket, but when none of the available
Components fit what I was proposing, I wasn't sure anymore if that was
the right thing to do. :)

http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/STYLE-487

 I personally don't mind it either way to have it or not as part of the name.
 One doubt I have is whether you see this also affecting other names like X,
 King of Y or Alfred, Lord Tennyson, or it's only Sir/Dame that you have
 in mind.

Well, Sir was the only example that came to mind, and probably the
only I've seen in use at MusicBrainz, but your other examples would
probably also fit my criteria.

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Re: [mb-style] Remove honorary titles

2015-03-20 Thread bflaminio
I agree with Trevor Downs. If an artist makes a point to include the title,
and if the title is used on cover art, liner notes, and other artifacts of
music production; then it's reasonable to include the title in the artist
name.

So, including the Sir for Sir Thomas Beecham seems appropriate, but I
wouldn't suggest Sir Paul McCartney be used.

These can be decided on a case-by-case basis.



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Re: [mb-style] Remove honorary titles

2015-03-20 Thread SwissChris
http://musicbrainz.org/edit/11528485

On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 2:55 AM, bflaminio bflami...@gmail.com wrote:

 I agree with Trevor Downs. If an artist makes a point to include the title,
 and if the title is used on cover art, liner notes, and other artifacts of
 music production; then it's reasonable to include the title in the artist
 name.

 So, including the Sir for Sir Thomas Beecham seems appropriate, but I
 wouldn't suggest Sir Paul McCartney be used.

 These can be decided on a case-by-case basis.



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[mb-style] Remove honorary titles

2015-03-20 Thread David Gasaway
Hi,

I'd like to propose that we remove honorary titles from artist names,
i.e., Sir Thomas Beecham [1] should be simply Thomas Beecham.
They are not really part of the artists' names, and should not apply
to times before the titles were bestowed.  ACs can be used to indicate
the title if they are featured on a release, of course.  I'd like to
see this added to Style/Artist.

[1] http://musicbrainz.org/artist/0e6ccc63-41cb-4903-8b7d-60846aca6d58


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Re: [mb-style] Remove honorary titles

2015-03-20 Thread Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren
Hi!

It's fine to have discussion here, but please also add a style ticket :)

I personally don't mind it either way to have it or not as part of the
name. One doubt I have is whether you see this also affecting other names
like X, King of Y or Alfred, Lord Tennyson, or it's only Sir/Dame
that you have in mind.


On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 12:20 AM, David Gasaway d...@gasaway.org wrote:

 Hi,

 I'd like to propose that we remove honorary titles from artist names,
 i.e., Sir Thomas Beecham [1] should be simply Thomas Beecham.
 They are not really part of the artists' names, and should not apply
 to times before the titles were bestowed.  ACs can be used to indicate
 the title if they are featured on a release, of course.  I'd like to
 see this added to Style/Artist.

 [1] http://musicbrainz.org/artist/0e6ccc63-41cb-4903-8b7d-60846aca6d58


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Re: [mb-style] Remove honorary titles

2015-03-20 Thread Trevor Downs
I'm generally in favor of a title only if a person makes it a point to use it.

Trevor Downs
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 On Mar 20, 2015, at 3:26 PM, Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren reosare...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi! 
 
 It's fine to have discussion here, but please also add a style ticket :)
 
 I personally don't mind it either way to have it or not as part of the name. 
 One doubt I have is whether you see this also affecting other names like X, 
 King of Y or Alfred, Lord Tennyson, or it's only Sir/Dame that you have 
 in mind.
 
 
 On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 12:20 AM, David Gasaway d...@gasaway.org wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I'd like to propose that we remove honorary titles from artist names,
 i.e., Sir Thomas Beecham [1] should be simply Thomas Beecham.
 They are not really part of the artists' names, and should not apply
 to times before the titles were bestowed.  ACs can be used to indicate
 the title if they are featured on a release, of course.  I'd like to
 see this added to Style/Artist.
 
 [1] http://musicbrainz.org/artist/0e6ccc63-41cb-4903-8b7d-60846aca6d58
 
 
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