Re: Feature request (or yet another brainfart by M$?)

1999-08-11 Thread David DeSimone

Ralf Hildebrandt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Have you ever wished you could take back something you said? Well
  here's some good news: Outlook allows you to recall an email message
  that you sent to another Outlook user!

This is a feature of the underlying Exchange protocol.  SMTP has no such
feature.

 But wouldn't that be another nice feature for mutt?

Maybe, but once a message enters an SMTP stream, it tends to get
delivered permanently.  :)

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Re: Feature request (or yet another brainfart by M$?)

1999-08-11 Thread Ken W

On Wed, Aug 11, 1999, Ralf Hildebrandt wrote:
  Have you ever wished you could take back something you said? Well
  here's some good news: Outlook allows you to recall an email message
  that you sent to another Outlook user! This feature works only if the
  message you're trying to recall hasn't yet been opened by the
  receiver. You can choose to simply delete unread copies of the
  message, or you can replace unread copies of the message with a
  brand new message. You can also request to be notified whether the
  message recall was successful. Once you've selected the options you
  want, click OK, and Outlook attempts to recall the message you selected. 
 
 Hmm, I wonder how one can abuse this? But wouldn't that be another
 nice feature for mutt?

I believe this is only for within an intranet type network.  I don't
think it works for the Internet.



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Re: Feature request (or yet another brainfart by M$?)

1999-08-11 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt

On Wed, Aug 11, 1999 at 06:54:25PM +0100, Lars Hecking wrote:

  Hmm, I wonder how one can abuse this? But wouldn't that be another
  nice feature for mutt?
  
  Ralf, you should lock your screen while away from the computer.
  I can't believe you actually typed this :)

Ok, the eclipse burned my brain, but this is actually the stupidest
idea M$ EVER had, and so I thought I'd share my thoughts... 

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Re: Feature request (or yet another brainfart by M$?)

1999-08-11 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt

On Wed, Aug 11, 1999 at 12:56:14PM -0500, David DeSimone wrote:

 This is a feature of the underlying Exchange protocol.  SMTP has no such
 feature.

Hmm, but couldn't mutt support this feature?

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how to reload settings ?

1999-08-11 Thread Bjoern Buerger

Hi,

is there a way to reload .muttrc without exiting mutt ?

Ciao, Bjørn

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Re: how to reload settings ?

1999-08-11 Thread David Shaw

On Wed, Aug 11, 1999 at 09:05:27PM +0200, Bjoern Buerger wrote:
 Hi,
 
 is there a way to reload .muttrc without exiting mutt ?

:source ~/.muttrc

(or the general equivalent).

Note that this doesn't really answer your question - it isn't like
reloading from scratch (by exiting and re-starting mutt).  It just reloads
the .muttrc and applies the settings on top of what it already has.  That
could be a problem with hooks, but should be just fine for options.

David

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Re: how to reload settings ?

1999-08-11 Thread Carsten Raas

Hi Bjoern!

[ Haettest Du auch auf der SuSE-Liste fragen duerfen! ;-) ]

On Wed, 11 Aug 1999, Bjoern Buerger wrote:

 is there a way to reload .muttrc without exiting mutt ?

I´ve collected some answers to this question appeared in this mailing
list. So "Thank You!": Mike, Tim, David, Christian and Byrial.

==

 Does mutt have a facility to reload its settings from .muttrc without
 quitting and re-running it?

Depends on what you've changed.

 I sometimes want to make a change while I'm busy working through my
 mail and don't always want to leave it until I've finished reading my
 mail.

Most of the time, I'm making a one-line change to the file, and I simple
cut-n-paste the new command at the ":" prompt in Mutt.  Then I can see
what effect the change has.

If you're modifying send-hooks, though, there isn't any un-send-hook
command that I'm aware of, so it's difficult to remove and reapply them
without restarting Mutt.

==

You can load your .muttrc with the command ":source .muttrc".  However,
this will not actually reload your settings.  It will load the settings
in .muttrc in top of any current settings.  For testing some changes
(especially some hooks), I've found no other solution than to quit and
restart mutt so as to get a clean .muttrc load from scratch.

==

I use 'folder-hook . source ~/.mutt/muttrc' to do this, then
any time I change my muttrc, I do a c!return.

==

Put the following line in your .muttrc and you can reload the .muttrc
with ESC r whenever you want.

macro   index   \er ":source ~/.muttrc\n" "Reload muttrc"
macro   pager   \er ":source ~/.muttrc\n" "Reload muttrc"

==

You can reset all variables to their default values with
":reset all" before sourcing .muttrc, but other configuration
(key bindings, macros, colors, hooks etc.) cannot be reset in a
simple way.
 
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ÿñh®Êÿ®^KþZÞ? characters appended to mails?

1999-08-11 Thread Morten Bo Johansen

This question surely must have surfaced at least once before but I wasn't 
there to see the answer..

So what is this:

ÿñh®Êÿ®^KþZÞ?«^­ëm?[b?ú ~¶¦zWb?
ÿ?+-z^?ìz÷§?(,¶^[m§ÿÿÃ^Lÿ~[ ýÙ??¨¥?xÿ?Ù¥

I get it in a few mails, in this case from a message that comes from a Lotus 
email program. Is it a Lotus version of a vcard or something? If so is there 
some mutt mime plugin to handle this?




Morten



Re: Feature request (or yet another brainfart by M$?)

1999-08-11 Thread Stefan `Sec` Zehl

On Wed, Aug 11, 1999 at 08:26:40PM +0200, Ralf Hildebrandt wrote:
 On Wed, Aug 11, 1999 at 12:56:14PM -0500, David DeSimone wrote:
 
  This is a feature of the underlying Exchange protocol.  SMTP has no such
  feature.
 
 Hmm, but couldn't mutt support this feature?

And now, for your amusement, i can inform you that it already does :-)

How? Easy, simply send a new mail like this:

| From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Subject: FOLDER INTERNAL DATA, IGNORE
| Supersedes: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Expires: Wed, 10 Aug 1999 14:00:43 +0100 (CEST)
| 
| This is an folder internal cancel message, please ignore me :-)

And have the recipient have the following line in his .muttrc:

push D~S|~E\n

(not tested :-)

CU,
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