Re: Alternates, Groups, Lists, and Work

1999-11-12 Thread Sean Rima

Hi David!

On Thu, 11 Nov 1999, David DeSimone wrote:

 Sean Rima [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   My mail filter detects spam, but instead of deleting it, it inserts
   the header 'X-Status: D'.
 
  Any chance of seeing your filter, sounds good.
 
 Alas, my current mail filter is a home-brewed perl script, which is easy
 for me to tweak and modify, since I wrote it, but I fear it might be a
 bit of trouble for others to make sense of it.
 
(Cut to save) That is no problem. I get enough spam these days so maybe I
can do something myself.

Sean

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Re: Alternates, Groups, Lists, and Work

1999-11-12 Thread Sean Rima

Hi Rejo!

On Fri, 12 Nov 1999, Rejo Zenger wrote:

 ++ 11/11/99 22:11 + - Sean Rima:
  My mail filter detects spam, but instead of deleting it, it inserts the
  header 'X-Status: D'.  Thus, when I enter my mailbox, all the spam is
  
 Any chance of seeing your filter, sounds good.
 
 I have same kind of setup. I have procmail check for a some things that
 may point to spam. Other, similar, checks are also done. 
 
 The filter checks for spammers that use insecure systems or messages
 without RFC822 and RFC1123 valid Message-Id or Date fields. It checks to
 see if the mail was addressed to a spamtrap. It checks to see if the
 used mail servers are in the ORBS, RSS or RBL. If it finds a thing that
 does not look correct, it'll add a X-Note field with the problem found.
 
 In Mutt i have these X-Note headers light up in bright white (while
 other header fields are in green), so i can eassily not if something is,
 possibly, wrong.
 
 Some of them are derived from the Spamdunk filters, but have been
 changed and extended over the course of time. See my procmailrc at
 http://www.mediaport.org/~sister/personal/procmailrc for more info.
 
Thanks, will have a butchers.

Sean

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Re: Printing

1999-11-12 Thread Fairlight

On Fri, Nov 12, 1999 at 08:51:12AM +0100, Pieter Wenk thus spoke:
 Hello to all,
 
 How do I tell mutt, that I should like to to have a print ?
 
 I ckecked my muttrc concerning the key-bindings. Found
 nothing.
 
 Tried "p"...no action

Assuming it's not built in anywhere (I'm not checking the manual at the
moment),  you could always just make a macro that does a pipe of the
message to lpr...

Something tells me you should look at the manual...there's bound to be a
print -somewhere- but barring that, this would work.

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Re: Alternates, Groups, Lists, and Work

1999-11-12 Thread Martin Schröder

On 1999-11-12 08:16:58 +0100, Rejo Zenger wrote:
 Some of them are derived from the Spamdunk filters, but have been
 changed and extended over the course of time. See my procmailrc at
 http://www.mediaport.org/~sister/personal/procmailrc for more info.

Looks quite interesting. Please donate it to dotfiles.com

Best regards
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Re: Printing

1999-11-12 Thread Mikko Hänninen

Fairlight [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Fri, 12 Nov 1999:
  How do I tell mutt, that I should like to to have a print ?
  
  Tried "p"...no action

Check the value of the $print quadoption.  I have a hunch it might be
set to "no".  Default is "ask-no".  Another alternative is that you have
it set to "yes" but your print command doesn't know what to do with the
message, or doesn't do the right thing (see below).

 Something tells me you should look at the manual...there's bound to be a
 print -somewhere- but barring that, this would work.

p by default prints the message.  In other words, it calls up the print
command defined in $print_command (default "lpr" according to the
manual) with the message text to print in STDIN.  I believe the headers
are formatted and weeded according to the normal Mutt header
instructions, and possibly according to what you see on screen (so if
have view full headers enabled, it would also print all of them) -- I
don't know about the latter and didn't try it out.


Hope this helps,
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Re: Re: Printing

1999-11-12 Thread Pieter Wenk

On ven, 12 nov 1999, Fairlight wrote:



Assuming it's not built in anywhere (I'm not checking the manual at the
moment),  you could always just make a macro that does a pipe of the
message to lpr...

Something tells me you should look at the manual...there's bound to be a
print -somewhere- but barring that, this would work.

Hm...well yes. Now I have the full manual. Wearing glasses, 
I could not see an entry "explaining" how to perform out of
mutt such a fundamental job as printing, any second class
E-Mailer does by default in hitting just a printer icon.

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query_command for uiuc's ph/qi

1999-11-12 Thread David Champion

I hadn't seen a query_command program for qi on www.mutt.org, so I
wrote one.  (I know they're around, but I was blinded or something and
I missed them.)  I particularly didn't know about the one on Brandon
Long's archive that handles multiple servers, but mine handles them
better anyway. :)

We don't have many mutt users here, but I haven't heard anything from
any of them, so I'll let all of you try it out anyway.

It's a perl script, I'm afraid.  There's a nested hash at the top that
defines your server(s) and parameters that apply to them individually.
At uchicago.edu we have two standard servers, so this was kinda
necessary.  You can turn it to your advantage, too: I put nwu.edu in my
copy, as well, since we're in the same general neighborhood.

The reason I think this is better, btw, are that 1) the awful nested
hash lets you set parameters for each server independently; 2) this one
is a little smarter about using the info available via `siteinfo' to
fill in blanks; and 3) it tries hard to give useful commentary on the
matches.

It doesn't require a client or the perl Net::Ph (or whatever) module.

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##
## [EMAIL PROTECTED], evil qi guy
##

###
## Configurable parameters:

## List all Qi servers to check.
##  server  = hostname of server ($)
##  port= service/port, if not the default (csnet-ns/105) ($)
##  fullname= field containing full name on this server ($)
##  dfields = fields with descriptive text about person ([])
##  capnames= do names need to be coerced into proper capitalization? ($)
##  shownull= Show records with empty mailbox fields? ($)
@QISVRS = ( {
server  = "ns.uchicago.edu",
port= undef,
fullname= "name", 
dfields = \@INFOFIELDS,
capnames= 1,
shownulls   = 1,
},
{
server  = "alumni.uchicago.edu",
port= undef,
fullname= "name", 
dfields = \@INFOFIELDS,
capnames= 1,
shownulls   = 1,
},
#   {
#   server  = "ns.nwu.edu",
#   port= undef,
#   fullname= "name", 
#   dfields = [qw(title department curriculum text)],
#   capnames= 1,
#   shownulls   = 0,
#   },
## UIUC is s l o w
#   {
#   server  = "ns.uiuc.edu",
#   port= undef,
#   fullname= "name", 
#   dfields = [qw(title department curriculum text)],
#   capnames= 1,
#   shownulls   = 0,
#   },
);

## Fields to take commentary text from, in precedence order.
@INFOFIELDS = qw(
title
appointment
department
curriculum
text
);

## No more config after this.
###

use Symbol;
use Socket;
use Sys::Hostname;

($A0 = $0) =~ s:.*/::;

sub max {
my (@all) = @_;
my ($x);

$x = 0;
for (@all) {
$x = $_ if ($_  $x);
}
return $x;
}

sub QiConnect {
my ($host, $port) = @_;
my @pw;
my $sock = gensym;
my $port = getservbyname($port, 'tcp')
|| getservbyport($port, 'tcp')
|| getservbyname('csnet-ns', 'tcp')
|| getservbyname('ns', 'tcp')
|| getservbyport(105, 'tcp');
my $sin = sockaddr_in($port, inet_aton($host));
socket($sock, PF_INET, SOCK_STREAM, getprotobyname('tcp'));
connect($sock, $sin);
select $sock; $| = 1; select STDOUT;

@pw = getpwuid($);
print $sock "hello ", $pw[0], "\@", hostname, " [$0]\n";
while ($sock) {
last if (/^[2-9]/);
}
return $sock;
}

if ($#ARGV != 0) {
print "$A0: usage: $A0 query_exp\n";
exit 1;
}

($SEARCH = $ARGV[0]) =~ s/\s+/\*/g;

$nresults = 0;
for $svr (@QISVRS) {
@matches = ();
$Qi = QiConnect($svr-{server}, $svr-{port});
print $Qi "siteinfo\n";
IO: while ($Qi) {
last IO if (/^[2-9]/);
chomp;
($r, $n, $f, $v) = split(/\s*:\s*/, $_);
if ($f =~ /^maildomain$/) {
$svr-{maildomain} = "\@$v";
} elsif ($f =~ /^mailfield$/) {
   

Re: Re: Printing

1999-11-12 Thread Pieter Wenk

On ven, 12 nov 1999, Mikko Hänninen wrote:

Hello Mikko,

p by default prints the message.  In other words, it calls up the print
command defined in $print_command (default "lpr" according to the
manual) with the message text to print in STDIN.  I believe the headers
are formatted and weeded according to the normal Mutt header
instructions, and possibly according to what you see on screen (so if
have view full headers enabled, it would also print all of them) -- I
don't know about the latter and didn't try it out.

This is what I have in .muttrc with regards to printing:

# Soll Mutt vor dem Drucken einer Mail nachfragen ?
set print=ask-yes

# Drucker - Kommandos
set print_command="a2ps -nn -ns -nH -p -1 -B -F10 -nL | lpr"

Now, normally I thought with "p" the printing should start ?

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Re: Re: Printing

1999-11-12 Thread Alec Habig

Pieter Wenk writes:
 
 Hm...well yes. Now I have the full manual. Wearing glasses, 
 I could not see an entry "explaining" how to perform out of
 mutt such a fundamental job as printing, any second class
 E-Mailer does by default in hitting just a printer icon.

Perhaps it's time to check your glasses prescription.  Cut-n-paste from
the manual appended below (just pulled up the manual.txt file, and
searched on "print").  Yes, it is "p", as you tried, and the defaults
should work to first order - assuming your system admin has set up a
default printer queue - but what is set up in your .muttrc?  Perhaps
there's some goop in there that's messing you up.

No icons - yuck!  I use a text mode mailer to avoid icons :)

FWIW, here's my own .muttrc customization, for my own local printer and
using a2ps to pretty-print the email:

set print_cmd="a2ps -g -Email -P lp7"
set print=ask-yes   # ask me if I really want to print messages

-from manual.txt--

6.3.118.  print

  Type: quadoption
  Default: ask-no

  Controls whether or not Mutt asks for confirmation before printing.
  This is useful for people (like me) who accidentally hit ``p'' often.


  6.3.119.  print_command

  Type: string
  Default: lpr

  This specifies the command pipe that should be used to print messages.

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ftp problems to ftp.mutt.org

1999-11-12 Thread Eugene Lee

Is anyone having problems connecting to it?  This is what i get after
a simple traceroute:

traceroute to ftp.mutt.org (134.95.80.189), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets
 1  gp-rtr-1.chatlink.com (205.139.105.254)  3.256 ms  1.552 ms  1.490 ms
 2  core1-ashland-s1-3-4.mind.net (206.151.156.17)  11.150 ms  9.078 ms  8.777 ms
 3  border1-serial2-2.Sacramento.cw.net (204.70.165.17)  37.802 ms  49.383 ms  56.891 
ms
 4  core1-fddi-0.Sacramento.cw.net (204.70.164.17)  45.432 ms  36.810 ms  37.349 ms
 5  bordercore3.Washington.cw.net (166.48.40.1)  120.403 ms  293.955 ms  150.258 ms
 6  dfn.Washington.cw.net (166.48.41.250)  120.833 ms  113.407 ms  112.429 ms
 7  IR-New-York1.WiN-IP.DFN.DE (188.1.144.197)  120.793 ms  132.154 ms  139.532 ms
 8  IR-New-York2.WiN-IP.DFN.DE (188.1.145.2)  110.337 ms  108.441 ms  109.126 ms
 9  dfn.ny.dante.net (212.1.200.53)  114.446 ms  110.899 ms  113.534 ms
10  dfn-side.ny.dante.net (212.1.200.54)  113.006 ms  107.584 ms  107.785 ms
11  dfn.ny.dante.net (212.1.200.53)  107.730 ms  107.619 ms  109.582 ms
12  dfn-side.ny.dante.net (212.1.200.54)  107.418 ms  107.980 ms  108.182 ms
13  dfn.ny.dante.net (212.1.200.53)  107.093 ms  107.351 ms  110.070 ms
14  dfn-side.ny.dante.net (212.1.200.54)  108.252 ms  129.802 ms  124.019 ms
15  dfn.ny.dante.net (212.1.200.53)  110.417 ms  115.011 ms  107.902 ms
16  dfn-side.ny.dante.net (212.1.200.54)  109.986 ms  186.945 ms  107.757 ms
17  dfn.ny.dante.net (212.1.200.53)  110.668 ms  110.268 ms  108.357 ms
18  dfn-side.ny.dante.net (212.1.200.54)  107.608 ms  108.591 ms  123.150 ms
19  dfn.ny.dante.net (212.1.200.53)  114.652 ms  109.835 ms  108.245 ms
20  dfn-side.ny.dante.net (212.1.200.54)  109.079 ms  109.672 ms  109.387 ms
21  dfn.ny.dante.net (212.1.200.53)  109.280 ms  109.211 ms  107.781 ms
22  dfn-side.ny.dante.net (212.1.200.54)  115.362 ms  112.782 ms  108.600 ms
23  dfn.ny.dante.net (212.1.200.53)  110.553 ms  111.577 ms  110.293 ms
24  dfn-side.ny.dante.net (212.1.200.54)  114.399 ms  125.804 ms  109.094 ms
25  dfn.ny.dante.net (212.1.200.53)  111.275 ms  109.426 ms  110.285 ms
26  dfn-side.ny.dante.net (212.1.200.54)  113.205 ms  110.525 ms  108.241 ms
27  dfn.ny.dante.net (212.1.200.53)  109.268 ms  108.523 ms  109.808 ms
28  dfn-side.ny.dante.net (212.1.200.54)  115.178 ms  110.547 ms  110.420 ms
29  dfn.ny.dante.net (212.1.200.53)  112.526 ms  111.764 ms  109.744 ms
30  dfn-side.ny.dante.net (212.1.200.54)  109.029 ms  110.888 ms  109.842 ms

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Re: Can there be too many color definitions?

1999-11-12 Thread Andy Spiegl

 Debian's /etc/Muttrc is a complete disaster in my experience. It
 almost put me off mutt when I first tried it.
 
 It's probably a good idea to delete the file altogether.
Hm, good idea, but that doesn't answer whether I found a bug in mutt.
Any developers reading this?

Ciao,
 Andy.

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Re: ftp problems to ftp.mutt.org

1999-11-12 Thread Thomas Roessler

On 1999-11-12 02:34:56 -0800, Eugene Lee wrote:

 29  dfn.ny.dante.net (212.1.200.53)  112.526 ms  111.764 ms  109.744 ms
 30  dfn-side.ny.dante.net (212.1.200.54)  109.029 ms  110.888 ms  109.842 ms

That's bad.  It does essentially mean that the German research
network's international connections are partially down.  Nothing
anyone on this list can  do something about...

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Re: [mutt] Deleting all attachments matching regexp

1999-11-12 Thread Rüdiger Kuhlmann


Hi!

How can I tell mutt to colorize *and* eg underline something?
For example, I'd like to have error messages in red and bold face,
links in some color and underlined, and so on.

Yours, Rüdiger.

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Since we have PGP support...

1999-11-12 Thread Rich Lafferty

I've realized lately that I see an awful lot of "WARNING: Can't find
the right public key-- can't check signature integrity" on
mutt-users. :-) Is there a mutt public keyring out there anywhere?

(I just had a really nifty majordomo idea, but that's a little *too*
off-topic.)

  -Rich

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text/plain not displayed automatically

1999-11-12 Thread Martin Schröder

Hi,
when I read the attached mail mutt only displays the signature
and tells me it can't find an entry for text/html. I have to view
the attachments to see the text/plain part.

Any idea what's going wrong?

Thanks in advance
   Martin

 mutt -version
Mutt 1.0i (1999-10-22)
Copyright (C) 1996-9 Michael R. Elkins and others.
Mutt comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; for details type `mutt -vv'.
Mutt is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it
under certain conditions; type `mutt -vv' for details.

System: Linux 2.0.36 [using ncurses 4.2]
Compile options:
-DOMAIN
-HOMESPOOL  -USE_SETGID  +USE_DOTLOCK  +USE_FCNTL  -USE_FLOCK
-USE_IMAP  -USE_POP  +HAVE_REGCOMP  -USE_GNU_REGEX  +HAVE_COLOR  
+HAVE_PGP2  -BUFFY_SIZE 
-EXACT_ADDRESS  +ENABLE_NLS
SENDMAIL="/usr/sbin/sendmail"
MAILPATH="/var/spool/mail"
SHAREDIR="/usr/local/share/mutt"
SYSCONFDIR="/usr/local/etc"
ISPELL="/usr/bin/ispell"
_PGPPATH="/home/ms/bin/pgp"
_PGPV2PATH="/home/ms/bin/pgp"
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Re: Since we have PGP support...

1999-11-12 Thread Martin Schröder

On 1999-11-12 09:12:52 -0500, Rich Lafferty wrote:
 I've realized lately that I see an awful lot of "WARNING: Can't find
 the right public key-- can't check signature integrity" on
 mutt-users. :-) Is there a mutt public keyring out there anywhere?

Don't think so. You know http://www.pgp.net/pgpnet/ ?

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Re: Since we have PGP support...

1999-11-12 Thread Christian Gall

Hi !

On Fri, Nov 12, 1999 at 03:30:36PM +0100, Martin Schröder wrote:
  Is there a mutt public keyring out there anywhere?
 Don't think so. You know http://www.pgp.net/pgpnet/ ?
or http://www.keyserver.net ?

Christian


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Re: Since we have PGP support...

1999-11-12 Thread Dave Holland

On Fri, Nov 12, 1999 at 03:30:36PM +0100, Martin Schröder wrote:
 On 1999-11-12 09:12:52 -0500, Rich Lafferty wrote:
  I've realized lately that I see an awful lot of "WARNING: Can't find
  the right public key-- can't check signature integrity" on
  mutt-users. :-) Is there a mutt public keyring out there anywhere?
 Don't think so. You know http://www.pgp.net/pgpnet/ ?

If you're using gnupg, you can configure it to fetch unknown keys from
a keyserver...

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Re: Since we have PGP support...

1999-11-12 Thread Martin Schröder

On 1999-11-12 16:05:17 +0100, Christian Gall wrote:
 On Fri, Nov 12, 1999 at 03:30:36PM +0100, Martin Schröder wrote:
   Is there a mutt public keyring out there anywhere?
  Don't think so. You know http://www.pgp.net/pgpnet/ ?
 or http://www.keyserver.net ?

I didn't knew this, but have to admit it's flashy. But it's not
networked with pgp.net (it doesn't have my keys)... :-(

Best regards
   Martin
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Re: Since we have PGP support...

1999-11-12 Thread Martin Schröder

On 1999-11-12 16:21:23 +0100, Martin Schröder wrote:
 On 1999-11-12 16:05:17 +0100, Christian Gall wrote:
  On Fri, Nov 12, 1999 at 03:30:36PM +0100, Martin Schröder wrote:
Is there a mutt public keyring out there anywhere?
   Don't think so. You know http://www.pgp.net/pgpnet/ ?
  or http://www.keyserver.net ?
 
 I didn't knew this, but have to admit it's flashy. But it's not
 networked with pgp.net (it doesn't have my keys)... :-(

It has some, but they are a bit older. Seems they do a keyring
download from pgp.net every now and then...

Best regards
   Martin
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Re: Since we have PGP support...

1999-11-12 Thread Rich Lafferty

Quoting Dave Holland ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) from Fri, Nov 12, 1999 at 03:17:48PM 
+:
 On Fri, Nov 12, 1999 at 03:30:36PM +0100, Martin Schröder wrote:
  On 1999-11-12 09:12:52 -0500, Rich Lafferty wrote:
   I've realized lately that I see an awful lot of "WARNING: Can't find
   the right public key-- can't check signature integrity" on
   mutt-users. :-) Is there a mutt public keyring out there anywhere?
  Don't think so. You know http://www.pgp.net/pgpnet/ ?

Yeah, I've got a handful of keyserver urls, was just wondering if I was
missing out on something else :-)
 
 If you're using gnupg, you can configure it to fetch unknown keys from
 a keyserver...

Now *that* I didn't know. Thanks!

  -Rich

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Re: Since we have PGP support...

1999-11-12 Thread Dirk A. Mueller

On Fre, 12 Nov 1999, Rich Lafferty wrote:

 (I just had a really nifty majordomo idea, but that's a little *too*
 off-topic.)

Maybe you can fix that "sh: pgp not found" error first ;-)



Dirk



Re: alternates_work

1999-11-12 Thread David DeSimone

Jeremy Blosser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  So if everyone has a mail filter then why use "alternates" at all?

 Because $alternates has a lot less to do with filtering incoming mail
 than it has to do with getting the correct From: address when you
 reply to mail, etc.

In my eyes, the main point of $alternates is to keep my own address from
showing up in any group-replies that I do.

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Re: Alternates

1999-11-12 Thread David DeSimone

Nathan Cullen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Why (rhetorical question) can't I do it with alternates?
 
 alternates dre@chronic\.net
 alternates snoop@lbc\.ca.us

Actually, it used to be that way, but that was before Mutt really
supported regular expressions.  Once the regexp ability was added to
Mutt, a short survey of the then-current Mutt users showed that everyone
thought it would be just fine to make a single regexp that matched all
addresses.  So there you have it, the democratic process at work.  :)

 Does that just look much cleaner?

Yes, it does.


Sven Guckes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Wishlist?

No disrespect intended, Sven, but do people read your wish list?

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Re: just another send-hook question

1999-11-12 Thread David DeSimone

Richard P. Groenewegen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   send-hook '~t [EMAIL PROTECTED]' 'whatever'
 
 but I'll only want this send-hook to work if [EMAIL PROTECTED] is the only
 recipient.  

Isn't there a pattern modifier "^" that means "only"?

send-hook '^~t [EMAIL PROTECTED]' 'whatever'

That matches only if [EMAIL PROTECTED] is the only recipient on the To: 
header.  Note that the Cc: header is not checked.  If you really meant
"only recipient of the message," you'd want ^~C instead.

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Re: Alternates

1999-11-12 Thread Eugene Lee

On Fri, Nov 12, 1999 at 01:04:55PM -0600, David DeSimone wrote:
:Sven Guckes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
:
: Wishlist?
:
:No disrespect intended, Sven, but do people read your wish list?

I just did.  It took a while to find it, and it's actually located under
Sven's home page and not the Mutt home page.


-- 
Eugene Lee
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Clueless about NLS (was: Umlauts again)

1999-11-12 Thread Howard Arons

I simply cannot get Mutt to show German characters in the pager. The
characters either show up as ?'s or (worse yet) as Cyrillic-looking
letters. Even if I set LANG=de, the German menu items have the same
Cyrillic letters in them.

I've enabled NLS in Mutt. My .muttrc file contains the line
set charset="iso-8859-1"

Dirk Pirschel's suggestion:
 Mutt will only display iso-latin1 chars if you set locale appropriate.
 try LANG = en_US.iso88591
gives the Cyrillic letters. Nothing I have set LANG, LANGUAGE or LC_CTYPE
to changes this behavior, nor does choosing different charsets in .muttrc.
I've also tried --enable-locales-fix, but no difference.

Maybe my charsets are missing/corrupted. I don't even know what to look
for, hence the title of this note. Any pointers to a NLS tutorial will be
much appreciated, as will be any fixes for my little problem.

Howard Arons
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Re: just another send-hook question

1999-11-12 Thread Byrial Jensen

On Fri, Nov 12, 1999 at 07:10:25 +0100, Richard P. Groenewegen wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Here's something that's either trivial or impossible.  I want
 something like 
 
   send-hook '~t [EMAIL PROTECTED]' 'whatever'
 
 but I'll only want this send-hook to work if [EMAIL PROTECTED] is the only
 recipient.  

See the section in the manual named "Pattern Modifier".

send-hook '^~t [EMAIL PROTECTED]' 'whatever'

 On a related note: how do I limit to all messages send to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 but nobody else

:l^~C foo@bar\.com

(or to me, but nobody else)?

:l^~p

-- 
Byrial



Re: Can there be too many color definitions?

1999-11-12 Thread Byrial Jensen

On Fri, Nov 12, 1999 at 11:36:08 +0100, Andy Spiegl wrote:
 Hm, good idea, but that doesn't answer whether I found a bug in mutt.
 Any developers reading this?

There is a maximum number of color definitions which is imposed by
the terminal handling library (curses or slang). When you make a
new color definition, mutt will check if the limit is reached and
if this is the case it will silently use the "normal" color instead
of defining a new one.

-- 
Byrial



Re: text/plain not displayed automatically

1999-11-12 Thread Byrial Jensen

On Fri, Nov 12, 1999 at 15:26:56 +0100, Martin Schröder wrote:
 Hi,
 when I read the attached mail mutt only displays the signature
 and tells me it can't find an entry for text/html. I have to view
 the attachments to see the text/plain part.
 
 Any idea what's going wrong?

Yes. The mail is of type "multipart/alternative" with 3 parts:
 - The normal text/plain part
 - The same text in a text/html part
 - The signature in anoter text/plain part

All 3 parts should have alternative versions of the same
information, but they don't in this case. Mutt does the right thing
by displaying the last of the alternative parts. RFC 2046 says:

   the order of body parts is significant. In this case, the
   alternatives appear in an order of increasing faithfulness to
   the original content. In general, the best choice is the LAST
   part of a type supported by the recipient system's local
   environment.

-- 
Byrial



Re: Clueless about NLS (was: Umlauts again)

1999-11-12 Thread David DeSimone

Howard Arons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I simply cannot get Mutt to show German characters in the pager.  The
 characters either show up as ?'s or (worse yet) as Cyrillic-looking
 letters.  Even if I set LANG=de, the German menu items have the same
 Cyrillic letters in them.

Are you running Mutt on the console?  In an xterm?  What font do you
have loaded?  What font string is the xterm using?

My xterm is using this font:

-misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--10-100-75-75-c-60-iso8859-1

As you can see, it is an iso8859-1 font, which is why I can see the
western-european characters.  I would need to run in an xterm with a
different font, to see Cyrillic characters.

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Re: Since we have PGP support...

1999-11-12 Thread Bennett Todd

1999-11-12-09:12:52 Rich Lafferty:
 I've realized lately that I see an awful lot of "WARNING: Can't find
 the right public key-- can't check signature integrity" on
 mutt-users. :-) Is there a mutt public keyring out there anywhere?

By one of those totally whizzo coincidences, the same question drove me to
solve this one for myself quite recently. I'm using mutt-1.0i on Linux, along
with GnuPG 1.0. I have the following pgp-related variables in my .muttrc:

set pgp_default_version=gpg
set pgp_autosign
set pgp_sign_as="CE34B136"
unset pgp_strict_enc
set pgp_timeout=3600

along with a few pgp-hooks for frequent correspondents. I tried jacking the
pgp_timeout up higher, but couldn't make it work. I also tried diking it out
entirely, but the most trivial patch I tried didn't work, the resulting mutt
never asked for a passphrase in the first place:-(.

So anyway, on to your question with keys, the following in my .gnupg/options
seems to have done the trick:

keyserver wwwkeys.pgp.net

Another one that may or may not improve the odds of gpg's swallowing more keys
is

allow-non-selfsigned-uid

I have that, I don't know whether it's making my life any happier or not. Then
I added

encrypt-to 9BD503BF

(that's my encrypting key id) so that I would be able to read my file copies
of things I send encrypted.

And if you want to increase your odds of things working some more, you might
need to score some of the extensions for other crypto algorithms; they aren't
widely advertised, but they're in a contrib directory on the gnupg ftp site,
and they are easy to install. Of course, the reason they are left out of the
gnupg distribution is because they are encumbered by patent, so depending on
where you are and what you use gnupg for, in principle it might be a patent
violation for you to use some of the extensions.

-Bennett

P.S. when I first looked at your note, mutt painted this up at the top:

[-- PGP output follows (current time: Fri Nov 12 16:07:37 1999) --]
gpg: Signature made Fri 12 Nov 1999 09:12:50 AM EST using RSA key ID 2FA1A061
gpg: requesting key 2FA1A061 from wwwkeys.pgp.net ...
gpg: key 2FA1A061: public key imported
gpg: Total number processed: 1
gpg:   imported: 1  (RSA: 1)
gpg: Good signature from "Rich Lafferty [EMAIL PROTECTED]"
gpg: WARNING: This key is not certified with a trusted signature!
gpg:  There is no indication that the signature belongs to the owner.
gpg: Fingerprint: 30 FB 8F 6D 74 2E 99 18  B3 39 61 CB 0A 5E 7F 69
[-- End of PGP output --]

 PGP signature


mutt-1.0 and IRIX

1999-11-12 Thread Stephan Seitz

Hi!

I can't compile mutt-1.0 under IRIX64 6.2 03131016 IP19.

There is no charsets.[alias|list] in the charsets-directory.

It seems, the system doesn't have i81l oder nls installed.

./configure --enable-pop --enable-imap --enable-flock --enable-fcntl
--disable-nls --enable-compressed

Any hints?

Shade and sweet water!

Stephan

PS: There is an error in charsets/Makefile:
parse_i18n: parse_i18n.o $(LIBOBJS)
$(CC) -o parse_i18n parse_i18n.o $(LIBOBJS)

but it should be:
parse_i18n: parse_i18n.o $(LIBOBJS)
$(CC) $(CFLAGS) -o parse_i18n parse_i18n.o $(LIBOBJS)

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 PGP signature


Re: Alternates

1999-11-12 Thread Nathan Cullen

On Fri, Nov 12, 1999 at 01:04:55PM -0600, David DeSimone wrote:
  Why (rhetorical question) can't I do it with alternates?
  alternates dre@chronic\.net
  alternates snoop@lbc\.ca.us
 Actually, it used to be that way, but that was before Mutt really
 supported regular expressions.  Once the regexp ability was added to
 Mutt, a short survey of the then-current Mutt users showed that everyone
 thought it would be just fine to make a single regexp that matched all
 addresses.  So there you have it, the democratic process at work.  :)

The democratic process also gave us Bill Clinton. :(

Seriously though, would it be difficult to make it so that several
alternates would become a big OR'd regexp?  For example, having 
the alternates listed as they are above would be "put together" into
"(dre@chronic\.net)|(snoop@lbc\.ca.us)" ?

-- 
==
 Nathan Cullen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
==



Re: Automatic CC adding

1999-11-12 Thread Martin Baehr

On Wed, Nov 10, 1999 at 07:09:44PM +0200, Mikko Hänninen wrote:
  I have some letters that comes to me with "To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]". Every time
  i responding this message i need to add "CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]". Now i do this
  by hands. Is there any way to do it automatically?
 Does using g(roup reply) work for you?  It puts the To: address in the
 To: field of the reply, and the original sender as Cc:.

not in my case (i have the same problem) because the To:
address is one of my alternates...
i need it there, because it is an admin-role adress 
where all replies should come with a From: with that address

greetings, martin.
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Re: Automatic CC adding

1999-11-12 Thread Mikko Hänninen

Martin Baehr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Sat, 13 Nov 1999:
 not in my case (i have the same problem) because the To:
 address is one of my alternates...
 i need it there, because it is an admin-role adress 
 where all replies should come with a From: with that address

How about remove it from alternates and use a send-hook to set the
sender address?  Admittedly you can't then use $reverse_name, unless
you start using the developement version of Mutt which supports
set from= (instead of needing to use my_hdr From, which is not
compatible with $reverse_name).


Mikko
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Re: Automatic CC adding

1999-11-12 Thread Martin Baehr

On Sat, Nov 13, 1999 at 04:26:39AM +0200, Mikko Hänninen wrote:
  not in my case (i have the same problem) because the To:
  address is one of my alternates...
  i need it there, because it is an admin-role adress 
  where all replies should come with a From: with that address
 How about remove it from alternates and use a send-hook to set the
 sender address?  Admittedly you can't then use $reverse_name, unless
 you start using the developement version of Mutt which supports
 set from= (instead of needing to use my_hdr From, which is not
 compatible with $reverse_name).

i tried that, but i was unsuccessfull resetting the my_hdr From for all 
other alternates.

i also tried a send_hook to add a my_hdr Cc: also that didn't work :-(
strangely enough, using my_hdr Xx: does work, and only gets added to the
correct set of mails:

#send-hook '.' 'unmy_hdr From:'
#send-hook '~f cc' 'my_hdr From: Martin Baehr [EMAIL PROTECTED]'
#send-hook '.' 'unmy_hdr Cc:'
#send-hook '~f cc' 'my_hdr Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]'
send-hook '.' 'unmy_hdr Xx:'
send-hook '~f cc' 'my_hdr Xx: [EMAIL PROTECTED]'

greetings, martin.
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[Slightly OT] OSS Best Practices

1999-11-12 Thread Jeff Taylor

Apologies to non-developers for a slightly off topic post.  I am
writing on Open Source Software  Best Practices (e.g., peer review,
source code management, ego-less programming, and defect tracking).
The first draft is at muskrat.home.texas.net/oss_bp.html.  I am
looking for other examples.  If you have any comments, stories,
etc. please e-mail with them directly.

Thank you,
  Jeffrey L. Taylor