Q: Mutt and Email Lists

2000-04-01 Thread Mun Johl

Hi,

I currently subscribe to my email lists with the address of my primary
email machine (which is a company _internal_ email address).  However,
my email address is transitioning to a different domain.  Furthermore,
my company prefers external email be sent to our "external" email address.

How do I get mutt to send subscription requests so that the list
management software believes the email is coming from my external email
address?  I tried sending a subscription request after changing
the From: field; but the list software still interpreted it as a request
from my current internal email address?  The list in question has a
specific email address to send requests to, and the message can be empty.

I looked through the mutt manual, but didn't see anything covering this topic.

Thanks in advance.

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big problems after upgrading RedHat

2000-04-01 Thread Josh Kuperman

I know this is more of a RedHat than a Mutt problem, but I'm hopeful
that someone here can tell me what happened and how to fix it. I had to send
this with elm.

I upgraded my machine from RedHat 6.0 to RedHat 6.2 and most things work
but I'm having a big problem with Mutt. (and fetchmail and a few other
mail related programs).

When I run mutt I get

[josh@saratoga:/var/log/squid]$ cd
[josh@saratoga:~]$ mutt
mutt: error in loading shared libraries: libgssapi_krb5.so.2: cannot open shared
 object file: No such file or directory

same with fetchmail
[josh@saratoga:~]$ fetchmail
fetchmail: error in loading shared libraries: libkrb4.so.2: cannot open shared o
bject file: No such file or directory

but a different shared object file.

When I try to verify the RPM it doesn't really help me.

[josh@saratoga:~]$ rpm --verify -vv mutt
D: opening database mode 0x0 in /var/lib/rpm
D: record number 13382680
D:   YESA slang = 1.2.2-5   B slang = 0.99.38
D:  requires: slang = 0.99.38 satisfied by db packages.
D:  requires: smtpdaemon  satisfied by db provides.
D:  requires: urlview  satisfied by db packages.
D:  requires: krb5-libs  satisfied by db packages.
D:  requires: krb5-configs  satisfied by db packages.
D:  requires: ld-linux.so.2  satisfied by db provides.
D:  requires: libc.so.6  satisfied by db provides.
D:  requires: libcom_err.so.3  satisfied by db provides.
D:  requires: libdl.so.2  satisfied by db provides.
D:  requires: libgssapi_krb5.so.2  satisfied by db provides.
D:  requires: libk5crypto.so.2  satisfied by db provides.
D:  requires: libkrb5.so.2  satisfied by db provides.
D:  requires: libm.so.6  satisfied by db provides.
D:  requires: libslang.so.1  satisfied by db provides.
D:  requires: libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.0)  satisfied by db provides.
D:  requires: libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.1)  satisfied by db provides.
D: conflicts: mutt-us  unsatisfied.

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Re: Q: Mutt and Email Lists

2000-04-01 Thread Mikko Hänninen

Mun Johl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Fri, 31 Mar 2000:
 How do I get mutt to send subscription requests so that the list
 management software believes the email is coming from my external email
 address?  I tried sending a subscription request after changing
 the From: field; but the list software still interpreted it as a request
 from my current internal email address?  The list in question has a
 specific email address to send requests to, and the message can be empty.

Sounds like ezmlm (although I suppose there might be others which work
the same way). :-)

Anyway, I don't know but I'm guessing this is because the mailing list
software is looking at the *envelope sender* address (if it's ezmlm,
then I know this to be the case).  So anything you put in the headers
won't have any effect.

Mutt doesn't offer a method to directly configure the envelope sender
address (it's decided by the MTA usually when the email is sent), but
you can modify the $sendmail variable to include the envelope sender
on the sendmail command line, with the -f option (eg. "-fyour@address").


I'm reasonably sure this will help you, but if it doesn't, then you need
to first find out how the list server determines the sender address, and
after you know that you can then look into seeing how to change that.


Regards,
Mikko
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Re: big problems after upgrading RedHat

2000-04-01 Thread supio

On Sat, Apr 01, 2000 at 04:54:13AM -0500, Josh Kuperman wrote:
 I upgraded my machine from RedHat 6.0 to RedHat 6.2 and most things work
 but I'm having a big problem with Mutt. (and fetchmail and a few other

Have you upgraded mutt, fetchmail etc. too?
You obviously have problems with your libs. Mutt doesn't find the libs
it is linked against.

Check if the needed libs are installed.
Im wondering if you don't use the mutt rpm provided with rh6.2?

If you compiled mutt by yourself you should compile it again.



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Re: Q: Mutt and Email Lists

2000-04-01 Thread S.P. Hoeke

On Fri, Mar 31, 2000 at 03:33:36PM -0800, Mun Johl muttered:
 Hi,
 
 
 How do I get mutt to send subscription requests so that the list
 management software believes the email is coming from my external email
 address? 
You could try to change the Reply-To header, which probably has you 'internal' mail 
address.
For example an extra line in your .muttrc:
my_hdr Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Good luck,
  Steffan



Re: Q: Mutt and Email Lists

2000-04-01 Thread Charles Cazabon

Mun Johl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 How do I get mutt to send subscription requests so that the list
 management software believes the email is coming from my external email
 address?  I tried sending a subscription request after changing
 the From: field; but the list software still interpreted it as a request
 from my current internal email address?  The list in question has a
 specific email address to send requests to, and the message can be empty.

ezmlm?  Yes, it's looking at the envelope sender and ignoring the From: and
Reply-To: headers.

Depending on your MTA, there may be various ways around this:

-if you're using qmail, try setting a Return-Path: header containing only
your email address (no quoted name, etc).  If that doesn't work, write 
a wrapper for qmail-inject which calls it with the -f argument, and set
$sendmail to the name of your wrapper script.

-other MTA?  Don't know, don't use them.

Charles
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Re: Q: Mutt and Email Lists

2000-04-01 Thread Mikko Hänninen

Charles Cazabon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Sat, 01 Apr 2000:
 -if you're using qmail, try setting a Return-Path: header containing only
 your email address (no quoted name, etc).  If that doesn't work, write 
 a wrapper for qmail-inject which calls it with the -f argument, and set
 $sendmail to the name of your wrapper script.

With qmail, qne could also set the QMAILUSER and QMAILHOST environment
variables...  (That's what I'm doing.)


Mikko
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Re: Re: Any suggestion on mailling list?

2000-04-01 Thread sjp



 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  My idea is to use Mutt to encode the attachments and produce the
  headers.
 
 This is not a bad idea, but Mutt is really designed more for interactive
 use, and thus, there may be other tools better suited.  Have you looked
 at the "mpack" utility?  It encodes attachments and sends them in a
 batch mode.
 
  the subscriber will find To: header is not for them, a bit confusing.
 
 They shouldn't be confused if the header says that it was addressed to a
 list of people... ah well, I think mpack will send individual messages
 if you wish it to do so.
 
em, that the header says the mail is addressed to a list of people is acceptable. But 
as i know, mpack can only send one attachment.
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Re:Any suggestion on mailling list?

2000-04-01 Thread sjp



 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  My idea is to use Mutt to encode the attachments and produce the
  headers.
 
 This is not a bad idea, but Mutt is really designed more for interactive
 use, and thus, there may be other tools better suited.  Have you looked
 at the "mpack" utility?  It encodes attachments and sends them in a
 batch mode.
 
  the subscriber will find To: header is not for them, a bit confusing.
 
 They shouldn't be confused if the header says that it was addressed to a
 list of people... ah well, I think mpack will send individual messages
 if you wish it to do so.
 
en, that the header says the mail is addressed to a list of people is acceptable. But 
as i know, mpack can only send one attachment.
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Re: Re: Any suggestion on mailling list?

2000-04-01 Thread sjp



 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  My idea is to use Mutt to encode the attachments and produce the
  headers.
 
 This is not a bad idea, but Mutt is really designed more for interactive
 use, and thus, there may be other tools better suited.  Have you looked
 at the "mpack" utility?  It encodes attachments and sends them in a
 batch mode.
 
  the subscriber will find To: header is not for them, a bit confusing.
 
 They shouldn't be confused if the header says that it was addressed to a
 list of people... ah well, I think mpack will send individual messages
 if you wish it to do so.
 
em, that the header says the mail is addressed to a list of people is acceptable. But 
as i know, mpack can only send one attachment.
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Re:Any suggestion on mailling list?

2000-04-01 Thread sjp



 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  My idea is to use Mutt to encode the attachments and produce the
  headers.
 
 This is not a bad idea, but Mutt is really designed more for interactive
 use, and thus, there may be other tools better suited.  Have you looked
 at the "mpack" utility?  It encodes attachments and sends them in a
 batch mode.
 
  the subscriber will find To: header is not for them, a bit confusing.
 
 They shouldn't be confused if the header says that it was addressed to a
 list of people... ah well, I think mpack will send individual messages
 if you wish it to do so.
 
en, that the header says the mail is addressed to a list of people is acceptable. But 
as i know, mpack can only send one attachment.
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Thank you for using 21CN Email system




Re: big problems after upgrading RedHat

2000-04-01 Thread Bill Nottingham

Josh Kuperman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: 
 [josh@saratoga:/var/log/squid]$ cd
 [josh@saratoga:~]$ mutt
 mutt: error in loading shared libraries: libgssapi_krb5.so.2: cannot open shared
  object file: No such file or directory

Hmm... make sure you have a) the krb5-libs package installed, and
b) /usr/kerberos/lib in /etc/ld.so.conf.

Bill



Re: Q: Mutt and Email Lists

2000-04-01 Thread Gary Johnson

On Sat, Apr 01, 2000 at 12:59:33PM +0300, Mikko Hänninen wrote:
 Mun Johl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Fri, 31 Mar 2000:
  How do I get mutt to send subscription requests so that the list
  management software believes the email is coming from my external email
  address?  I tried sending a subscription request after changing
  the From: field; but the list software still interpreted it as a request
  from my current internal email address?  The list in question has a
  specific email address to send requests to, and the message can be empty.
 
 Sounds like ezmlm (although I suppose there might be others which work
 the same way). :-)

I ran into this problem, too.  Same company even.

The vim mailing list uses ezmlm.  When I tried subscribing to the list
with my new address, the "confirm subscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]" notice was
indeed sent to the envelope address instead of the From: address.
However, the notice also contained the descriptions of a lot of
administrative commands, including:

You can start a subscription for an alternate address,
for example "[EMAIL PROTECTED]", just add a hyphen and your
address (with '=' instead of '@') after the command word:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

I sent a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and it
worked great.

For another list, I sent a message to the list owner explaining the
situation and asking for their help.  That worked, too.

Good luck.

Regards,
Gary

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Re: Q: Mutt and Email Lists

2000-04-01 Thread Lars Hecking


 I currently subscribe to my email lists with the address of my primary
 email machine (which is a company _internal_ email address).  However,
 my email address is transitioning to a different domain.  Furthermore,
 my company prefers external email be sent to our "external" email address.

 That's a pretty stupid situation, which will continue to create
 unnecessary problems.

 If there is a distinction between extern and internal email addresses,
 it should be completely transparent for users. I.e. the company mail
 gateway, the link to the external world, should canonically rewrite
 all addresses in inbound and outbound mail.

 Even simpler if there were no such distinction, i.e. internal and
 external addresses are the same.

 All IMHO, of course.




Mutt colors

2000-04-01 Thread Phillip Beal

I've just recently switched my mail over to mutt, mainly for the colors and the 
threaded options.  I was wondering is there a way to set a color for a new message, 
instead of just being with the N flag?

Thanks,
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Re: Mutt colors

2000-04-01 Thread supio

On Sat, Apr 01, 2000 at 02:10:24PM -0500, Phillip Beal wrote:
 I've just recently switched my mail over to mutt, mainly for the colors and the 
threaded options.  I was wondering is there a way to set a color for a new message, 
instead of just being with the N flag?

Go and read the mutt manual :)



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Re: Mutt colors

2000-04-01 Thread Jim Toth

On Sat, Apr 01, 2000 at 02:10:24PM -0500, Phillip Beal ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said:
 I've just recently switched my mail over to mutt, mainly for the
 colors and the threaded options.  I was wondering is there a way to
 set a color for a new message, instead of just being with the N
 flag?

color index foreground background ~N

should do it.


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Specifiying directory to save attachments.

2000-04-01 Thread John P. Verel

I'd like to be able to save attachments to a specific directory.  I
don't see any way to set this up in the configuration file.

I do, however, have Sven's sample .muttrc which as a macro to do
aid in this.which, unfortunately, I do not understand.  Sven's macro
reads:

macro attach s S^A~/Mail/ATTACH/

So, two questions.  Is there a way to do this in the .muttrc?  Second,
an explanation of how the macro above works?

Thanks.

John



Re: change width of index fields

2000-04-01 Thread Michael Tatge

On Sat, Apr 01, 2000 at 12:13:43AM +0200, Byrial Jensen wrote:
 On Fri, Mar 31, 2000 at 21:37:15 +0100, J McKitrick wrote:
  On Fri, Mar 31, 2000 at 09:25:26PM -0500, Michael Tatge wrote:
   Hi all!
   
   Does anybody know of a way to change the width of the index columns?
102   F Feb 14 To wunderkind@c (   9) Re: HRK-Mitschnitt Deutschland
   ^^^
   As you can see sometimes the sender/to field does not fit.
  
  Thi si sonly a hint, since i'm not exactly sure of the format.  Int he
  format strings, you can use C-style formatting, like %15.15L will show
  the L field (i forget what it is) with 15 characters, i think. It's
  dsomething like that.
 
 That's right. The first number is the minimal width of the field,
 and the number after the dot is the maximal width of the field. Both
 numbers are optional. The dot belongs to the second number.

Thanx, that did it.


Michael


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gpg - .muttrc vs. .mutt.personal

2000-04-01 Thread Michal Hajek

Hello, can anyone please help to solve this problem :
I have in my .muttrc
set pgp-autosign
source .mutt.personal

but, I would like for some people, who wish not to receive signed mail,
to have 
unset pgp-autosign.
I have put 
send-hook this.peoplewhodontlikesig'[EMAIL PROTECTED] "unset pgp-autosign"

But, this seems to overide my .muttrc, since now mutt behaves so, that
no one ge
ts signed mail by default.
Any ideas ?
Thanks in advance... Michal Hajek




Re: Specifiying directory to save attachments.

2000-04-01 Thread Jim Toth

On Sat, Apr 01, 2000 at 08:43:46PM -0500, John P. Verel
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said:
 I'd like to be able to save attachments to a specific directory.  I
 don't see any way to set this up in the configuration file.
 
 I do, however, have Sven's sample .muttrc which as a macro to do aid
 in this.which, unfortunately, I do not understand.  Sven's macro
 reads:
 
 macro attach s S^A~/Mail/ATTACH/
 
 So, two questions.  Is there a way to do this in the .muttrc?

Other than Sven's way, not that I know of.  Probably because that
works fine.  :-)

 Second, an explanation of how the macro above works?

There's another part Sven had that you left out, which will look
something like

bind attach S some-function-which-probably-has-save-in-its-name

You'll want to check out section 3 of the manual, specifically those
parts about changing default bindings and making macros, but this is
what Sven's macro does:

 macro attach s S^A~/Mail/ATTACH/
  
This means this macro applies in the attach menu.

 macro attach s S^A~/Mail/ATTACH/
   ^
The s key in the attach menu will call this macro.

 macro attach s S^A~/Mail/ATTACH/
 ^

When the user pushes the s key in the attach menu, it will be as
though they had pressed the S key (which calls save attachment, I
believe), then the control-A key (which puts you at the beginning of
the line, in front of the suggested filename) then ~/Mail/ATTACH/
(which prepends the given directory name to the suggested file name).

So if you wanted to save the files to, say, the directory
~/mutt/RTFM
you would change the the macro above to

macro attach s S^A~/mutt/RTFM/

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