Re: feature request: graft and prune functions

2000-04-19 Thread Thomas Roessler

On 2000-04-19 00:18:22 -0400, David T-G wrote:

 Thoughts?

Real men use edit-message for this functionality.  But
then again, real men also read their e-mail with dd(1).

:-)

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compile options

2000-04-19 Thread Hartmut Gehrke-Tschudi

What does "-" and "+" signify in my mutt`s
Compile options?

-DOMAIN
-HOMESPOOL  -USE_SETGID  +USE_DOTLOCK  +USE_FCNTL  -USE_FLOCK
-USE_IMAP  -USE_POP  +HAVE_REGCOMP  -USE_GNU_REGEX  +HAVE_COLOR
+HAVE_PGP2  +HAVE_GPG  -BUFFY_SIZE
-EXACT_ADDRESS  +ENABLE_NLS


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2000-04-19 Thread fabrice

sorry, I hadn't updated my .mail_aliases

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hi to all,

I am new on this list and also a new user of mutt.

I haven't found anything in the 'manual.txt' about handling
extra-headers like 'Troll' or 'X-Troll' ones. May be I haven't look at
the right place ?

well, may be you could tell me where to look, what to read, etc ;-)

or if you are so kind as to send me an example of a few lines in the
'muttrc' which would do the job...

thanks a lot

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Re: compile options

2000-04-19 Thread Harold Oga

On Wed, Apr 19, 2000 at 08:52:10AM +0200, Hartmut Gehrke-Tschudi wrote:
What does "-" and "+" signify in my mutt`s
Compile options?

-DOMAIN
-HOMESPOOL  -USE_SETGID  +USE_DOTLOCK  +USE_FCNTL  -USE_FLOCK
-USE_IMAP  -USE_POP  +HAVE_REGCOMP  -USE_GNU_REGEX  +HAVE_COLOR
+HAVE_PGP2  +HAVE_GPG  -BUFFY_SIZE
-EXACT_ADDRESS  +ENABLE_NLS
Hi,
   The + indicates that compile time option has been turned on,
and the - indicates that compile time option has been turned off.

For example in the above, mutt was built without imap or pop support,
but does have color support.

-Harold
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Re: Troll and X-Troll

2000-04-19 Thread Lars Hecking


 I am new on this list and also a new user of mutt.
 
 I haven't found anything in the 'manual.txt' about handling
 extra-headers like 'Troll' or 'X-Troll' ones. May be I haven't look at
 the right place ?

 'Troll:' is not a legal RCF 822 header. User defined or eXtension headers
 must start with X-.

 well, may be you could tell me where to look, what to read, etc ;-)

 The flunky manual. You are looking for the my_hdr command. There
 are even examples :)

 or if you are so kind as to send me an example of a few lines in the
 'muttrc' which would do the job...




Troll and X-Troll

2000-04-19 Thread fabrice

hi to all,

I am new on this list and also a new user of mutt.

I haven't found anything in the 'manual.txt' about handling
extra-headers like 'Troll' or 'X-Troll' ones. May be I haven't look at
the right place ?

well, may be you could tell me where to look, what to read, etc ;-)

or if you are so kind as to send me an example of a few lines in the
'muttrc' which would do the job...

thanks a lot

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Re: Troll and X-Troll

2000-04-19 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt

On Wed, Apr 19, 2000 at 11:18:50AM +0200, fabrice wrote:

 I haven't found anything in the 'manual.txt' about handling
 extra-headers like 'Troll' or 'X-Troll' ones. May be I haven't look at
 the right place ?

Look for "my_hdr" like in:
my_hdr Organization: University of Passau, Germany

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IMAP port number - can it be changed in mutt

2000-04-19 Thread Chris Green

I am running an IMAP server as a user (i.e. no root access) just for
personal use.  Thus I can't use the standard port number 143 as that
is a system/unix port number.  Is there a way of telling mutt to use a
different port number for IMAP?  Or will I have to patch it and
rebuild?

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Re: Troll and X-Troll

2000-04-19 Thread Bodo Moeller

On Wed, Apr 19, 2000 at 10:51:31AM +0100, Lars Hecking wrote:

 I haven't found anything in the 'manual.txt' about handling
 extra-headers like 'Troll' or 'X-Troll' ones. [...]

  'Troll:' is not a legal RCF 822 header.

Neither are User-Agent (superfluous) and Mail-Followup-To (useful),
both of which you use in your message.

  User defined or eXtension headers
  must start with X-.



Re: IMAP port number - can it be changed in mutt

2000-04-19 Thread David Shaw

On Wed, Apr 19, 2000 at 02:36:43PM +0100, Chris Green wrote:
 I am running an IMAP server as a user (i.e. no root access) just for
 personal use.  Thus I can't use the standard port number 143 as that
 is a system/unix port number.  Is there a way of telling mutt to use a
 different port number for IMAP?  Or will I have to patch it and
 rebuild?

{your.imap.server:your_port_number}mailbox

David

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Re: Troll and X-Troll

2000-04-19 Thread Sam Roberts

From: Lars Hecking [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  I am new on this list and also a new user of mutt.
  
  I haven't found anything in the 'manual.txt' about handling
  extra-headers like 'Troll' or 'X-Troll' ones. May be I haven't look at
  the right place ?
 
  'Troll:' is not a legal RCF 822 header. User defined or eXtension headers
  must start with X-.

That's the common impression, but it's wrong.

The latest draft of the update to rfc 822 by the IETF wg makes
no mention of the X-. It was intended to seperate public and
private extensions, i.e. any x-* headers would never become
standard. However, people used it for any non-standard header.
This had the unfortuneate side-effect that headers like x-mailer
that become common practice CAN'T be standardized, which is
bad: one goal of standardization is to support common practice :-(.
It's also lead to garbage like the use of BOTH Status and
X-Status as common headers in mailboxes to track the read/etc.
status of messages. Yuck.

Sam





Re: feature request: graft and prune functions

2000-04-19 Thread David T-G

Mikko --

...and then Mikko Hänninen said...
% Thomas Roessler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Wed, 19 Apr 2000:
%  Real men use edit-message for this functionality.  But
%  then again, real men also read their e-mail with dd(1).
% 
% If I remember the thread right, this request came about partially
% because you can't do the "graft" function when sending messages.
% Even if you use edit-headers and include a correct References header,
% Mutt will remove it before sending.

Exactly the problem I found.  The only way I found to graft a message was
to save it somewhere and edit it outside of mutt -- and grabbing the Refs
is a pain anyway :-)


% 
% (Or maybe I'm thinking of some other message...)

Nope; you got it.


% 
% 
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Re: feature request: graft and prune functions

2000-04-19 Thread David T-G

Thomas --

...and then Thomas Roessler said...
% On 2000-04-19 00:18:22 -0400, David T-G wrote:
% 
%  Thoughts?
% 
% Real men use edit-message for this functionality.  But

Well, I'd like to, but it doesn't seem to work.  I haven't actually tried
edit-message to prune, but I certainly have tried and failed to graft --
that is, create a References: header with the reference IDs that I want.


% then again, real men also read their e-mail with dd(1).

Oh, yeah; I could do that.  Did I tell you that I wrote dd with cat(1)
one day when I was bored?  I had to write cat in morse code first ;-)


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% :-)
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[newbie] slow on send?

2000-04-19 Thread Bakki Kudva


Just starting with mutt and I am excited! Have spent nearly 3 days buried in the 
documentation and have a few questions I hope some one wouldn't mind answering.

First of all when I send the message mutt sits there for over a minute before coming 
back with a 'mail sent' message. Why is this? Is there an asynchronous mode for this? 
I am not sure if my Linux box is set up correctly. I have 4 computers on my LAN which 
all have 192.168.0.xxx numbers. I don't have a fqdn so I have made something up. I 
connect to a IMAP server thro a multitech serial line proxyserver which sits on the 
LAN...which is set as the gateway on the linux box. I use fetchmail to get and deliver 
mail to the ISP. There is sendmail running and I am not an expert in sendmail but used 
linuxconf to configure the very basic info to update sendmail.rc. I use my_hdr to set 
my from field to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Can anything in this chain cause this delay? In 
any case it all seems to work.

I also have pop mail server at my hosted domain which is now redirected to my local 
ISP. Am I better off picking up this mail through fetchmail?

A couple of other usability questions I couldn't figure out.
1. When composing a new msg is there a way to bring up a picklist of pattern matched 
aliases?

2. I find myself inadvertently hitting keys..sometimes meant for a different console 
and I lose track of focus..and say ending up in the To: prompt when I hit 'm'. ANy way 
to escape out of these modal situations? Is there some way to define a global escape 
sequence which will get you out of any screen and bring you back to say the index 
screen?

3.Finally I can't seem to for the life of me get the following macro to work..
macro index f1 "!less /usr/doc/mutt-1.0.1i/manual.txt\n" "mutt manual"

it works if I remove the  and use f,1 keys. Why doesn't it bind to the 'f1' key? 
Ineed this help system at this stage of my learning process rather than having the 
manual in a seperate window.

Appreciate your patience, thank you.

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Re: printing octet-stream attachments

2000-04-19 Thread David Ellement

On 000418, at 18:12:50, David DeSimone wrote:
 David Ellement [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  application/octet-stream; mutt.octet.filter %s; copiousoutput
  
  This works great for viewing octet-stream attachments.  However, if I
  print a message that includes a octet-stream attachment, the
  attachment also gets dumped to the printer.
 
 I believe there is a mailcap syntax to specify commands for printing. 
 I also believe that Mutt pays attention to these.  Perhaps adding a
 command "; print=/bin/true" will cause octet-stream attachments to be
 skipped?  Or an alternate filter could be run?

I tried this, but it didn't seem to make a difference.

I had $implicit_autoview set; by unsetting it before printing, I can
prevent dumping octet-stream attachments to the printer.

So, why does $implicit_autoview affect printing?  And why doesn't
mutt pay attention to the mailcap "print" command?

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Re: [newbie] slow on send?

2000-04-19 Thread Tim Waugh

On Wed, Apr 19, 2000 at 10:29:03AM -0400, Bakki Kudva wrote:

 1. When composing a new msg is there a way to bring up a picklist of
 pattern matched aliases?

Hit tab.

 2. I find myself inadvertently hitting keys..sometimes meant for a
 different console and I lose track of focus..and say ending up in
 the To: prompt when I hit 'm'. ANy way to escape out of these
 modal situations? Is there some way to define a global escape
 sequence which will get you out of any screen and bring you back
 to say the index screen?

Ctrl-G.

Don't know about the macro.

Tim.
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Basic(?) Aliasing

2000-04-19 Thread Steffan Hoeke

Hi,

i've got a rather silly question, but i'm stumped !

i have a mutt.alias file which gets sourced in my .muttrc.
when i do a tab on the To: prompt, i get a sorted list of all my aliases

so far, so good 

Now, i take a look at the address they expand to,
some of the adresses have the form 
"My name" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
others, on the other hand have
my other name [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The strange thing is, in my mutt.alias the're all of the form
alias aliasname "my name"   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
^   ^ allways the quotes ...
for example
alias shoeke"Steffan Hoeke" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
etc...

How come they don't show whent i get the sorted alias list???
Am i missing something basic, or 

TIA,
  Steffan



Re: Basic(?) Aliasing

2000-04-19 Thread Bodo Moeller

On Wed, Apr 19, 2000 at 06:25:58PM +0200, Steffan Hoeke wrote:

 some of the adresses have the form 
   "My name" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 others, on the other hand have
   my other name [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 The strange thing is, in my mutt.alias the're all of the form
 alias aliasname   "my name"   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   ^   ^ allways the quotes ...

The quotes are necessary when the string contains special characters
such as . or @.  Usually the quotes can be omitted, and are.



Re: feature request: graft and prune functions

2000-04-19 Thread Thomas Roessler

On 2000-04-19 14:57:10 +0300, Mikko Hänninen wrote:

 If I remember the thread right, this request came about
 partially because you can't do the "graft" function
 when sending messages. Even if you use edit-headers and
 include a correct References header, Mutt will remove
 it before sending.

Without checking this in the code, I seem to recall that
adding an In-Reply-To header _plus_ a References header
will make things work.

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Re: feature request: graft and prune functions

2000-04-19 Thread Michael Tatge

On Wed, Apr 19, 2000 at 05:11:26PM +0200, Thomas Roessler wrote:
 On 2000-04-19 14:57:10 +0300, Mikko Hänninen wrote:
 
  If I remember the thread right, this request came about
  partially because you can't do the "graft" function
  when sending messages. Even if you use edit-headers and
  include a correct References header, Mutt will remove
  it before sending.
 
 Without checking this in the code, I seem to recall that
 adding an In-Reply-To header _plus_ a References header
 will make things work.

Right, just grab your favrite editor and there you go.

Michael
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