Slrn and Mutt
Has anyone successfully integrated Slrn and Mutt together in use with netscape? Or just so these programs can be used hand in hand... I have followed the information off of this site: http://www.acc.umu.se/~snaggen/hacks.html but I am having issues running the test. Any help is appreciated. -- /helfman "At any given moment, you may find the ticket to the circus that has always been in your possession." Fingerprint: 2F76 2856 776A 3E07 9F3E 452A 17D9 9B28 D75E 0A36 GnuPG http://www.gnupg.org Get Private! 1024D/D75E0A36
Re: Slrn and Mutt
On Wed, Jun 07, 2000 at 10:38:16PM -0700, Jason Helfman wrote: Has anyone successfully integrated Slrn and Mutt together in use with netscape? Or just so these programs can be used hand in hand... Check out http://www3.telus.net/brian_winters/mutt/ . Brian
Colors, a wish ...
What woulkd be handy 9for me at least) is the ability to modify colors with patterns .. e.g. in my pager I have various colors to discern various senders. now what would be nce if I could do something like (pseudosyntax) color index from_the_boss yellow default color index priority=urgent bright default which means that normal messages are default message that are tagged urgent are set in the bright default color messages from the boss in yellow and urgnet messages fom the boss in bright yellow Gerhard, @jasongeo.com == The Acoustic Motorbiker == -- __O Soon I discovered that this rock thing was true =`\, Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil (=)/(=) Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet All of a sudden, I found myself in love with the world So there was only one thing that I could do To ding a ding dang my dang a long ling long
Re: mhonarc as an alternative to urlview
Hi, On 07.06.00, Gary Johnson wrote: I've used urlview to help me view URLs embedded in email, and it works fine, but when a message contains lots of URLs, it can be difficult to choose the right one since urlview provides no message context. After trying urlview, I was really unhappy with this solution too. I've worked out another solution, which I'm running already for a long time now. The program I use is mhonarc. See http://www.oac.uci.edu/indiv/ehood/mhonarc.html for details. I've written a small script mutt2mhonarc, which I start as a macro if I want to read the mail via the webbrowser. mhonarc converts the urls to clickable ones ... that's very convenient. Because I've plugged mutt as the mailer into netscape (using muttzilla, see http://www3.bc.sympatico.ca/brian_winters/mutt/ for details), I can also click on email adresses within the mails using this tool. I've defined macro index f2 "|mutt2mhonarc\n" "show message via mhonarc in netscape" macro pager f2 "|mutt2mhonarc\n" "show message via mhonarc in netscape" in the global Muttrc and mutt2mhonarc looks like this: #!/bin/ksh # ps=/usr/bin/ps awk=/usr/bin/awk grep=/usr/bin/grep at=/usr/bin/at rm=/usr/bin/rm mkdir=/usr/bin/mkdir sleep=/usr/bin/sleep netscape="/server/usr/bin/netscape -standalone" mhonarc=/server/usr/bin/mhonarc # $mkdir /tmp/m2m-dir$$ cd /tmp/m2m-dir$$ $mhonarc -single m2m$$ || exit 1 cd $HOME || exit 1 if [[ -z "`$ps -e |$grep netscape|$grep -v grep`" ]] then nohup $netscape "file:/tmp/m2m-dir$$/m2m$$" /dev/null 21 else $netscape -remote openFile\(/tmp/m2m-dir$$/m2m$$,new-window\) fi $at now + 1 minutes /dev/null 21 END $rm -fr /tmp/m2m-dir$$ END if [[ $? != 0 ]] then echo "Could not schedule delete of /tmp/m2m$$" exit 1 fi As you can see, I'm checking if netscape is already running. And I'm removing the files created from the mails (attachments are working fine too) a little later then starting the stuff (otherwise the files might be removed before netscape could read them. The scripts have to be adapted to other environments (we have here a workstation cluster running AIX 4.3.3), but it shouldn't be a difficult task. Well, that's the solution of choice for me regarding urls in mails. André -- by _ _ _ [EMAIL PROTECTED] / \ \/ ) http://www.physik.uni-augsburg.de/~wobsta/ / _ \ \/\/ / "In a world without walls and fences (_/ \_)_/\_/who needs windows and gates ...?!?"
Re: From_ line
hi,
thank you all for the responses.
to summarize:
the From_ line is used in mbox folder format to specify the beginning of the [next]
message. makes sense -- mutt shows my message split into pieces if it contains lines
starting with "From " in its body. seems that there's nothing specifying the format of
the line itself, although sendmail does write the envelope ("MAIL FROM:") address
(source: cf/README from sendmail-8.10.1) and the time when the message was transferred
to mda (just guess, it is a couple of seconds later than the time stated in the
"Received:" field).
why did i want to preserve it?
my "Received:" fields are normally turned off, and i wanted to see the time the
message arrived to my server without toggling headers view.
besides, i wanted to see whether the envelope-from address would make spam tracking
easier. Anton, how did you enable envelope-from in the "Received:" field? via
confRECEIVED_HEADER? or could you please send your sendmail.cf via private mail?
thanks again,
baurjan.
quick charset toggle
hi, i have to change my charset frequently. currently, i'm typing ":set cTAB="charset (occasionally, "charset" is the first keyword completed). but after that i have to type "iso-8859-9" and "koi8-r" manually each time, which is quite annoying. how can i speed up this process? btw, i still can't mix two languages in the single message. mime gurus? thanks in advance, baurjan.
Re: quick charset toggle
On 2000-06-08 12:15:55 +0300, Baurjan Ismagulov wrote: btw, i still can't mix two languages in the single message. mime gurus? Not in the same message part. You must use utf-8/unicode instead. Best regards Martin -- Martin Schröder, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Straße 8, D-28359 Bremen Voice +49 421 20419-44 / Fax +49 421 20419-10 PGP signature
new option?
could i suggest a new option, say -A, that would allow one to start mutt attaching the rest of the command line arguments, like this: mutt -s 'the whole deal' [EMAIL PROTECTED] -A *.pdf instead of having to enumerate the files: mutt -s 'the whole deal' [EMAIL PROTECTED] -a f1.pdf -a f2.pdf ...etc. it also helps in scripts when you want to run things unattended. thanks, ++ carlos
Re: From_ line
On 2000-06-06 22:14:20 +0300, Baurjan Ismagulov wrote: my problem is NOT "how to show/hide specific headers", but rather "how to retain the original From_ line". for instance: when the message arrives to the mail server (sendmail 8.10.1 and mail.local from solaris 7), the From_ line in the mailbox (/var/mail/ibr) looks like From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Jun 6 10:33:24 2000 POP servers generally don't pass From_ lines along with the message. -- http://www.guug.de/~roessler/
Re: new option?
On Thu, Jun 08, 2000 at 12:24:21AM -0500, Carlos P . wrote: mutt -s 'the whole deal' [EMAIL PROTECTED] -A *.pdf instead of having to enumerate the files: mutt -s 'the whole deal' [EMAIL PROTECTED] -a f1.pdf -a f2.pdf ...etc. it also helps in scripts when you want to run things unattended. In that case I would suggest to write a small script, which collects the filenames (via find or via shell wildcard substitution) and then generates the -a aName options by using a for loop. HTH Frank
Re: new option?
Carlos P . writes: could i suggest a new option, say -A, that would allow one to start mutt attaching the rest of the command line arguments, like this: mutt -s 'the whole deal' [EMAIL PROTECTED] -A *.pdf instead of having to enumerate the files: mutt -s 'the whole deal' [EMAIL PROTECTED] -a f1.pdf -a f2.pdf ...etc. it also helps in scripts when you want to run things unattended. Especially in a shell script, this would be a trivial one-liner.
PDF viewing question
I want to autoview PDFs, but also be able to kick off acroread. Autoview works, but I can't figure out how to kick off acroread in mutt. In my .mailcap I have: application/pdf; pdf2txt %s; needsterminal; copiousoutput application/pdf; acroread %s The first should be used for autoview. And the second should be used for view-attach, right? However view-attach also uses pdf2txt Anyone see what I'm doing wrong? I thought this worked at some point. Thanks, Randall -- Randall Hopper [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: quick charset toggle
On Thu, Jun 08, 2000 at 12:15:55 +0300, Baurjan Ismagulov wrote: hi, i have to change my charset frequently. currently, i'm typing ":set cTAB="charset (occasionally, "charset" is the first keyword completed). but after that i have to type "iso-8859-9" and "koi8-r" manually each time, which is quite annoying. how can i speed up this process? You could use macros to change charset. One for each charset: macro index EscTI 'set charset=iso-8859-9' 'Change to iso-8859-9' macro index EscTK 'set charset=koi8-r' 'Change to koi8-r' It is also possible to make a real toggle. This example uses an external script: macro index EscT 'set charset=`charset-toggle`' 'Toggle charset' where "charset-toggle" contains something like: #!/bin/sh # Find the current charset: if test -f charset; then charset=`cat charset` else charset=koi8-r fi # Toggle to the other charset: if test $charset = koi8-r; then charset=iso-8859-9 else charset=koi8-r fi # save and output the new value: echo $charset charset echo $charset btw, i still can't mix two languages in the single message. mime gurus? If you use UTF-8, you can mix any languages. -- Byrial http://home.worldonline.dk/~byrial/
Re: new option?
On Thu, Jun 08, 2000 at 12:24:21AM -0500, Carlos P . [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: could i suggest a new option, say -A, that would allow one to start mutt attaching the rest of the command line arguments, like this: mutt -s 'the whole deal' [EMAIL PROTECTED] -A *.pdf instead of having to enumerate the files: mutt -s 'the whole deal' [EMAIL PROTECTED] -a f1.pdf -a f2.pdf ...etc. it also helps in scripts when you want to run things unattended. Why not use the following, especially if you are already in a script? mutt -s 'the whole deal' [EMAIL PROTECTED] `for f in *.html;do echo -a $f;done` Possibly use a variable in place of *.html . -- Bob BellCompaq Computer Corporation Software Engineer 110 Spit Brook Rd - ZKO3-3/U14 TruCluster GroupNashua, NH 03062-2698 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 603-884-0595
Re: PDF viewing question
On Thu, 08 Jun 2000, Randall Hopper wrote: I want to autoview PDFs, but also be able to kick off acroread. Autoview works, but I can't figure out how to kick off acroread in mutt. application/pdf; pdf2txt %s; needsterminal; copiousoutput application/pdf; acroread %s The first should be used for autoview. And the second should be used for view-attach, right? However view-attach also uses pdf2txt Anyone see what I'm doing wrong? I thought this worked at some point. Try reversing the order of these two lines. The mailcap is searched top down and the first match is used. If you change the order of these two lines, view-attach will find acroread first while auto-view ignores acroread and uses pdf2txt because it only uses copiousoutput lines. BTW: does it make sense to combine "needsterminal" and "copiousoutput" in one mailcap entry? As far as I understand they are quite contrary, because "needsterminal" needs a terminal with user input while "copiousoutput" pipes the output to some kind of pipe. So I would change the above entries to something like this: application/pdf; acroread %s; test=test -n "$DISPLAY" application/pdf; pdf2txt %s; copiousoutput Tscho Roland -- * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://www.spinnaker.de/ *
Re: PDF viewing question
On Thu, Jun 08, 2000 at 07:49:04 -0400, Randall Hopper wrote: I want to autoview PDFs, but also be able to kick off acroread. Autoview works, but I can't figure out how to kick off acroread in mutt. In my .mailcap I have: application/pdf; pdf2txt %s; needsterminal; copiousoutput application/pdf; acroread %s The first should be used for autoview. And the second should be used for view-attach, right? However view-attach also uses pdf2txt The first usable mailcap entry is always used. Try to reverse the two lines. -- Byrial http://home.worldonline.dk/~byrial/
Resending msg from outbox
How do I resend a msg from my outbox? Sometimes msgs get lost and I'd like to send a duplicate. Is there a simple way of doing this? -- John
Re: new option?
mutt -s 'the whole deal' [EMAIL PROTECTED] `for f in *.html;do echo -a $f;done` might want to say "echo -- -a ..." there, in case echo(1) complains. echo "-a $f" should work regardless. or even echo " -a $f".
Re: Getting auto_view to work with lynx
On Thu, Jun 08, 2000 at 09:46:16AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have lynx working on one system to view HTML OK but on this system
it isn't working for some reason.
I have
auto_view text/html
in my muttrc file and I have a .mailcap file as follows:-
text/html; /usr/bin/lynx -dump -force_html %s;nametemplate=%s.html
lynx really is in /usr/bin/lnyx, so what's missing?
When I try and view HTML I just get the text/html is not supported
message.
Perhaps the system Muttrc file or your personal .muttrc file on the
second system has redefined mailcap_path so that it doesn't include
${HOME}/.mailcap.
BTW, I think "-force_html" and "nametemplate=%s.html" are redundant.
--
Gary Johnson | Agilent Technologies
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | RF Communications Product Generation Unit
| Spokane, Washington, USA
Re: Resending msg from outbox
John -- ...and then John Poltorak said... % How do I resend a msg from my outbox? % % Sometimes msgs get lost and I'd like to send a duplicate. % Is there a simple way of doing this? I'd say that the simplest way is to select the message in the index and then 'b'ounce it to the original recipient. In 1.2 there is a new "resend-message" function, which was split out from "edit-message", but I don't yet know how it works :-) % % -- % John :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bigfoot.com/~davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! The "new millennium" starts at the beginning of 2001. There was no year 0. Note: If bigfoot.com gives you fits, try sector13.org in its place. *sigh* PGP signature
Re: Resending msg from outbox
John Poltorak proclaimed on mutt-users that: How do I resend a msg from my outbox? Sometimes msgs get lost and I'd like to send a duplicate. Is there a simple way of doing this? escape - e to edit and resend the message. b to bounce the message to the guy again. -- Suresh Ramasubramanian + [EMAIL PROTECTED] Most people wouldn't know music if it came up and bit them on the ass. -- Frank Zappa
Re: new option?
Hi, folks -- ...and then Lars Hecking said... % % mutt -s 'the whole deal' [EMAIL PROTECTED] `for f in *.html;do echo -a $f;done` I love the one-line method :-) % % might want to say "echo -- -a ..." there, in case echo(1) complains. % % echo "-a $f" should work regardless. or even echo " -a $f". In all of this, though, shouldn't it be echo -n ... followed by a final echo "" to keep them all on one line? :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bigfoot.com/~davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! The "new millennium" starts at the beginning of 2001. There was no year 0. Note: If bigfoot.com gives you fits, try sector13.org in its place. *sigh* PGP signature
Re: Getting auto_view to work with lynx
On 2000-06-08 09:54:49 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: text/html; /usr/bin/lynx -dump -force_html %s;nametemplate=%s.html lynx really is in /usr/bin/lnyx, so what's missing? The copiousoutput entry. Try this instead: text/html; lynx -force_html %s; needsterminal ; nametemplate=%s.html text/html; lynx -underscore -force_html -dump %s; copiousoutput -- http://www.guug.de/~roessler/
Re: new option?
In all of this, though, shouldn't it be echo -n ... followed by a final echo "" to keep them all on one line? In principle, yes, but it may even work without. Nevertheless, echo -n is not portable.
Re: Resending msg from outbox
John Poltorak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Thu, 08 Jun 2000: How do I resend a msg from my outbox? Sometimes msgs get lost and I'd like to send a duplicate. Is there a simple way of doing this? Yes. Use the b(ounce) command. Alternatively you can do resend-message (esc-e) but that's only in Mutt 1.2... (Or to be precise, you could do a resend in earlier versions too, but it was different and I forget how it worked.) Regards, Mikko -- // Mikko Hänninen, aka. Wizzu // [EMAIL PROTECTED] // http://www.iki.fi/wiz/ // The Corrs list maintainer // net.freak // DALnet IRC operator / // Interests: roleplaying, Linux, the Net, fantasy scifi, the Corrs / "I used to be indecisive, but now I'm not sure."
Re: Resending msg from outbox
On 2000-06-08 16:00:11 +0100, John Poltorak wrote: X-Mailer: Mutt 0.94.15i How do I resend a msg from my outbox? Upgrade. :-) Sometimes msgs get lost and I'd like to send a duplicate. Is there a simple way of doing this? With your version of mutt, about all you can do is to bounce the message to some other recipients, without editing anything about it. This may quite well be what you want to do. With the current versions, you can use the resend-message function to - essentially - recall messages from the current folder, just like you do it with the postponed folder now. -- http://www.guug.de/~roessler/
Re: new option?
Lars -- ...and then Lars Hecking said... % % In all of this, though, shouldn't it be % %echo -n ... % % In principle, yes, but it may even work without. Nevertheless, % echo -n is not portable. Ah, yes; that damned SysV stuff :-) In all of my must-be-portable shell scripts, I have the standard "how do i not newline?" function and use $ECHO instead of just good old echo... *sigh* Still, it could even be written *right* in one line ;-) :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bigfoot.com/~davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! The "new millennium" starts at the beginning of 2001. There was no year 0. Note: If bigfoot.com gives you fits, try sector13.org in its place. *sigh* PGP signature
dir size in browser display?
In the variable folder_format, %s is for size, but only works on normal files, not directories. Is there a way to show total directory size (similar to 'du -s') in the browser display? thanks, jon
Re: new option?
On Thu, Jun 08, 2000 at 11:50:10AM -0400, David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: % might want to say "echo -- -a ..." there, in case echo(1) complains. % % echo "-a $f" should work regardless. or even echo " -a $f". In all of this, though, shouldn't it be echo -n ... followed by a final echo "" to keep them all on one line? Perhaps. echo -n is not portable, though. I originally quoted the "-a $f" and then saw it worked without, too. Basically, I just jotted down something that worked on Tru64, and left a compatible implementation up to the implementor :-) -- Bob BellCompaq Computer Corporation Software Engineer 110 Spit Brook Rd - ZKO3-3/U14 TruCluster GroupNashua, NH 03062-2698 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 603-884-0595 PGP signature
How do I make pop support do polling?
For reasons I can not understand (it's a job thing) My mail servers can neither do imap or nfs mount /var/mail. My only choice is to do pop3. How do I make pop poll the pop server? I looked through the docs and it seems there is no timer functionality for the "fetch_mail" command. (and no I can not use fetchmail, I have to have mutt do it. It sounds unreasonable but that's the way the higher ups have decided to do things) TIA, timball -- Send mail with subject "send pgp key" for public key. pub 1024R/CFF85605 1999-06-10 Timothy L. Ball [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key fingerprint = 8A 8E 64 D6 21 C0 90 29 9F D6 1E DC F8 18 CB CD
Re: How do I make pop support do polling?
Timothy Ball [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Thu, 08 Jun 2000: For reasons I can not understand (it's a job thing) My mail servers can neither do imap or nfs mount /var/mail. My only choice is to do pop3. How do I make pop poll the pop server? I looked through the docs and it seems there is no timer functionality for the "fetch_mail" command. You can't. If you can create crontab entries, you can create a cron job that runs Mutt with some pushed keystrokes to execute the pop function. However you might run into problems with not having a tty for Mutt from the cron job, but if not, then there's nothing else to stop this from working. (and no I can not use fetchmail, I have to have mutt do it. It sounds unreasonable but that's the way the higher ups have decided to do things) Please replace or upgrade your higher ups and try again. :-) Mikko -- // Mikko Hänninen, aka. Wizzu // [EMAIL PROTECTED] // http://www.iki.fi/wiz/ // The Corrs list maintainer // net.freak // DALnet IRC operator / // Interests: roleplaying, Linux, the Net, fantasy scifi, the Corrs / A mind is a terrible thing to ... er ... h?
Re: multilingual text
Baurjan Ismagulov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: can i create messages in two different languages using overlapping 8-bit charsets simultaneously? i need, for example, mix koi8-r and iso-8859-9 in one message. How about one message with two attachments, one attachment using koi8-r, and the other using iso-8859-9? I don't think Mutt can create any multipart type besides multipart/mixed, though.. you might have wanted multipart/alternative? -- David DeSimone | "The doctrine of human equality reposes on this: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | that there is no man really clever who has not Hewlett-Packard | found that he is stupid." -- Gilbert K. Chesterson Richardson IT|PGP: 5B 47 34 9F 3B 9A B0 0D AB A6 15 F1 BB BE 8C 44
Re: new option?
On 2000.06.08, in [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Lars Hecking" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In principle, yes, but it may even work without. Nevertheless, echo -n is not portable. Unquoted backquotes turn all whitespace into plain spaces: `ls a b c` = a b c Quoted backquotes do not: "`ls a b c`"= a b c -- -D.[EMAIL PROTECTED]NSITUniversity of Chicago
Re: new option?
On Thu, Jun 08, 2000 at 01:59:43PM -0500, David Champion [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unquoted backquotes turn all whitespace into plain spaces: `ls a b c` = a b c Quoted backquotes do not: "`ls a b c`"= a b c ...depending on the shell. Moreover, quoted backspaces in my implementation of sh and bash put each item from ls on a separate line, even if they weren't before. However, quotes don't have the same effect is csh. But this is a mutt mailing list, not a shell programming one... :) -- Bob BellCompaq Computer Corporation Software Engineer 110 Spit Brook Rd - ZKO3-3/U14 TruCluster GroupNashua, NH 03062-2698 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 603-884-0595
Re: Getting auto_view to work with lynx
On Thu, Jun 08, 2000 at 05:16:46PM +0200, Thomas Roessler wrote: On 2000-06-08 09:54:49 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: text/html; /usr/bin/lynx -dump -force_html %s;nametemplate=%s.html lynx really is in /usr/bin/lnyx, so what's missing? The copiousoutput entry. Try this instead: text/html; lynx -force_html %s; needsterminal ; nametemplate=%s.html text/html; lynx -underscore -force_html -dump %s; copiousoutput Absolutely right! I put those lines in my .mailcap and now it works, however I'm not clear why the line I had on the other system worked there but not here. Ho, hum, who cares - it works now. Thanks! -- Chris Green ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.isbd.co.uk/
Re: How do I make pop support do polling?
Tim -- ...and then Timothy Ball said... % For reasons I can not understand (it's a job thing) My mail servers can % neither do imap or nfs mount /var/mail. My only choice is to do pop3. How How on earth is anyone getting mail now? Can you mimic that? I won't go into wondering why you can't fake it with fetchmail or the like; I like Mikko's suggetsion about upgrading your higher-ups :-) If you have access to the server, could you just read in an xterm from there? Or perhaps you could grab your mail out of /var/mail and "deliver" it to $HOME somewhere... :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bigfoot.com/~davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! The "new millennium" starts at the beginning of 2001. There was no year 0. Note: If bigfoot.com gives you fits, try sector13.org in its place. *sigh* PGP signature
Re: Colors, a wish ...
On Thu, Jun 08, 2000 at 10:01:42AM +0200, Gerhard den Hollander wrote: now what would be nce if I could do something like (pseudosyntax) color index from_the_boss yellow default color index priority=urgent bright default which means that normal messages are default message that are tagged urgent are set in the bright default color messages from the boss in yellow and urgnet messages fom the boss in bright yellow You can already do that: color index yellow default '~f [EMAIL PROTECTED]' color brightdefault default '~h "^x-priority: urgent"'# or whatever color brightyellow default '~f boss ~h "^x-priority: urgent"' # both Check sections 3.7 and 4.2 for complete documentation. IIRC if multiple patterns match the last one is used. Unfortunately the manual is silent about this. Marius Gedminas -- "Cogito ergo I'm right and you're wrong." -- Blair Houghton
Re: Mutt/Procmail/Fetchmail question NEW colour question
On Wed, Jun 07, 2000 at 09:48:50AM -0700, Timothy Grant wrote: I'm not quite sure I know how to get the colours working. I have run it in both a Eterm and an rxvt session and there is no colour. Do I have to do something to turn colour on, or do I need to do something to my terminal settings to make it work (ls --color works in both sessions, so I know my terminals both are configured for colour support) Set $TERM to `xterm-color' and you should get colour. Marius Gedminas -- Your eyes are weary from staring at the CRT. You feel sleepy. Notice how restful it is to watch the cursor blink. Close your eyes. The opinions stated above are yours. You cannot imagine why you ever felt otherwise.
Re: How do I make pop support do polling?
On Thu, Jun 08, 2000 at 04:47:14PM -0400, David T-G wrote: How on earth is anyone getting mail now? Can you mimic that? Most of the ppl here use kpop (kerberos pop) support in eudora, or outlook. I myself am adding kerberos support (again) into mutt, via a SASL (Simple Authentication Support Layer), it does kerberos via GSSAPI. The practical upshot of doing it this way is that when you POP yr mail the body of the message is sent encrypted... and of course kerberos allows you to log into the pop server w/o using a passwd. I won't go into wondering why you can't fake it with fetchmail or the like; I like Mikko's suggetsion about upgrading your higher-ups :-) Fetchmail is frowned upon because of the fact that fetchamil basically runs as a deamon. If you have access to the server, could you just read in an xterm from there? Or perhaps you could grab your mail out of /var/mail and "deliver" it to $HOME somewhere... The mail server no longer allows ssh/ktelnet access to "normal" users. Basically what I would like to see is POP support in mutt to be on the line of IMAP support, polling of mailhost and delivering it to an INBOX or something similiar. Course I'm having some issues w/ pop.c. I guess it's the fact that I'm unfamiliar w/ the "mutt" way of doing things. One where can I add a ./configure option. (I am very unfamiliar w/ m4.) how do I add stuff to init.h, and what format should it be in. And in pop.c where does the pop mesgs actually get "stored" in the mailbox? Is it via the mx_commit_message() function near line 280? --timball -- Send mail with subject "send pgp key" for public key. pub 1024R/CFF85605 1999-06-10 Timothy L. Ball [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key fingerprint = 8A 8E 64 D6 21 C0 90 29 9F D6 1E DC F8 18 CB CD
Re: How do I make pop support do polling?
Tim -- ...and then Timothy Ball said... % On Thu, Jun 08, 2000 at 04:47:14PM -0400, David T-G wrote: % How on earth is anyone getting mail now? Can you mimic that? % % Most of the ppl here use kpop (kerberos pop) support in eudora, or Ahhh... So they really *are* popping, then. Ugh :-) % outlook. I myself am adding kerberos support (again) into mutt, via a % SASL (Simple Authentication Support Layer), it does kerberos via GSSAPI. Well, thanks! % The practical upshot of doing it this way is that when you POP yr mail % the body of the message is sent encrypted... and of course kerberos Pretty nice, even if it doesn't encrypt the headers... % allows you to log into the pop server w/o using a passwd. A nice bonus. % % I won't go into wondering why you can't fake it with fetchmail or the % like; I like Mikko's suggetsion about upgrading your higher-ups :-) % % Fetchmail is frowned upon because of the fact that fetchamil basically % runs as a deamon. Hmmm... What would they say if you promised to not, and then ran it from cron every */2 or */5 minutes? :-) % % If you have access to the server, could you just read in an xterm from % there? Or perhaps you could grab your mail out of /var/mail and % "deliver" it to $HOME somewhere... % % The mail server no longer allows ssh/ktelnet access to "normal" users. I figured that they'd have done that -- first, in fact -- but then didn't think that any company would *really* have folks popping dwn internally... What a backup mess! % % Basically what I would like to see is POP support in mutt to be on the % line of IMAP support, polling of mailhost and delivering it to an INBOX % or something similiar. I can imagine that... Of course, it gets back to the whole war over which is a download method and which is a folder implementation... % % Course I'm having some issues w/ pop.c. I guess it's the fact that I'm % unfamiliar w/ the "mutt" way of doing things. One where can I add a % ./configure option. (I am very unfamiliar w/ m4.) how do I add stuff to % init.h, and what format should it be in. And in pop.c where does the pop % mesgs actually get "stored" in the mailbox? Is it via the % mx_commit_message() function near line 280? Way outta my league :-) % % --timball % % -- % [EMAIL PROTECTED] Obviously not once they get to management, it seems ;-) :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bigfoot.com/~davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! The "new millennium" starts at the beginning of 2001. There was no year 0. Note: If bigfoot.com gives you fits, try sector13.org in its place. *sigh* PGP signature
Re: PDF viewing question
On Thu, Jun 08, 2000 at 02:59:21PM +0200, Roland Rosenfeld wrote: On Thu, 08 Jun 2000, Randall Hopper wrote: I want to autoview PDFs, but also be able to kick off acroread. Autoview works, but I can't figure out how to kick off acroread in mutt. application/pdf; pdf2txt %s; needsterminal; copiousoutput application/pdf; acroread %s The first should be used for autoview. And the second should be used for view-attach, right? However view-attach also uses pdf2txt Anyone see what I'm doing wrong? I thought this worked at some point. Try reversing the order of these two lines. The mailcap is searched top down and the first match is used. If you change the order of these two lines, view-attach will find acroread first while auto-view ignores acroread and uses pdf2txt because it only uses copiousoutput lines. BTW: does it make sense to combine "needsterminal" and "copiousoutput" in one mailcap entry? As far as I understand they are quite contrary, because "needsterminal" needs a terminal with user input while "copiousoutput" pipes the output to some kind of pipe. So I would change the above entries to something like this: application/pdf; acroread %s; test=test -n "$DISPLAY" application/pdf; pdf2txt %s; copiousoutput I agree with Roland. That should fix it. I would like to do this too, but I do not know about pdf2txt. Could someone please post a source for it and perhaps add a link to the www.mutt.org pages - I do not think it is there vut could of course be wrong. Cheers, Brian. Tscho Roland -- * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://www.spinnaker.de/ * -- Associate Professor Brian Salter-Duke (Brian Duke) [EMAIL PROTECTED] School of Biological, Environmental and Chemical Sciences, SITE, Northern Territory University, Darwin, NT 0909, Australia. Phone 08-89466702. Fax 08-89466847 http://www.smps.ntu.edu.au/school/compchem.html
Re: How do I make pop support do polling?
Hi all, Thanks for all your wonderful assistance in getting Mutt up and running. I haven't started Messenger all day, so your help was really useful! I do have a few other questions, two of them are not *really* Mutt related, but one of them is, so let me start with that. Being a Mutt newbie, I don't know what negative side effects might be caused by my desire. The default Mutt behaviour has the j key going to the next message. I think I would prefer that it go to the next unread message. I think I am capable of writing the macro to make that happen. However, I don't know what undesirable side effects that might occur should I do this. Is there a downside that I don't see? Moving more off-topic. In the discussions over my getting colour working, it was suggested that I use rxvt. I tried it and liked it very much. I'm going to show both my X ignorance and my rxvt ignorance here. One of the things I like about rxvt is its default fonts. I particularly like the largest font, however, I have no idea what the font is called, nor how to automatically start with the largest font. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I also would love to turn off the scroll bar, but the -sb switch doesn't appear to work. Moving even more off-topic. I'm using joe as my e-mail editor. However, since my window defaults to 80x40, joe's display is completely mangled when it starts. Using a ^R tends to fix most of the mangling, but not always. Also, who is using what for an editor (I use emacs all the time, but it is out as an e-mail editor as startup speed is too long) Other than joe, who's using what and why. Thanks in advance -- Stand Fast, tjg. Timothy Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chief Technology Officer www.exceptionalminds.com Red Hat Certified Engineer MIG #1433 Avalon Technology Group, Inc. Linux...Because rebooting isn't normal
Re: How do I make pop support do polling?
Tim --
...and then Timothy Grant said...
% Hi all,
%
% Thanks for all your wonderful assistance in getting Mutt up and running. I
% haven't started Messenger all day, so your help was really useful!
Yippee! :-)
%
% I do have a few other questions, two of them are not *really* Mutt
% related, but one of them is, so let me start with that.
*grin*
%
% Being a Mutt newbie, I don't know what negative side effects might be caused
% by my desire. The default Mutt behaviour has the j key going to the next
% message. I think I would prefer that it go to the next unread message. I
% think I am capable of writing the macro to make that happen. However, I
% don't know what undesirable side effects that might occur should I do this.
% Is there a downside that I don't see?
You can bind your keys any way you wish. Since you have {J,K} bound by
default to {next,prev}-entry, along with {j,k} ({next,prev}-undeleted),
you can change tab from next-new to whatever and bind {j,k} to
{next,prev}-new and take off.
Can't help you much with color, and I swear by vi[m] :-)
:-D
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Re: How do I make pop support do polling?
Hi there, Timothy Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Thu, 08 Jun 2000: Being a Mutt newbie, I don't know what negative side effects might be caused by my desire. The default Mutt behaviour has the j key going to the next message. I think I would prefer that it go to the next unread message. I think I am capable of writing the macro to make that happen. However, I don't know what undesirable side effects that might occur should I do this. Is there a downside that I don't see? No there aren't. The only thing to watch out for is other macros which might expect that j is bound to next-undeleted, but you presumably know of any macros that you have defined (if you don't know of any, then there probably aren't any...) and whether they depend on that binding or not. Anyway, it's better to write macros which don't depend on specific keys, by specifying function-name instead, just to avoid this kind of situations. One final note: you probably don't need a macro, just re-binding of the j key. Mutt already has the next-new (or maybe it was next-unread, I forget) function. I also would love to turn off the scroll bar, but the -sb switch doesn't appear to work. Experiment with +sb instead. In many X programs some option is turned on with -option and turned off with +option (yes, it's bit backwards). Regards, Mikko -- // Mikko Hänninen, aka. Wizzu // [EMAIL PROTECTED] // http://www.iki.fi/wiz/ // The Corrs list maintainer // net.freak // DALnet IRC operator / // Interests: roleplaying, Linux, the Net, fantasy scifi, the Corrs / The only substitute for good manners is fast reflexes.
bouncing emails from temp. domain
Hello, I have a lunux setup and a temporary dialup connection. Sometimes when I try to send somebody email it gets bounced with the following complaint: - Transcript of session follows - ... while talking to mx0.gmx.de.: MAIL From:[EMAIL PROTECTED] BODY=8BITMIME 550 Cannot resolve your domain - ungueltiger Domain-Name in Adresse 554 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Service unavailable --UAA00925.959908551/werich.enteract.com Content-Type: message/delivery-status Reporting-MTA: dns; werich.enteract.com Arrival-Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 20:15:49 -0500 Final-Recipient: RFC822; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Action: failed Status: 5.0.0 Remote-MTA: DNS; mx0.gmx.de Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 550 Cannot resolve your domain - ungueltiger Domain-Name i n Adresse Last-Attempt-Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 20:15:51 -0500 --UAA00925.959908551/werich.enteract.com Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Return-Path: gibby Received: (from gibby@localhost) by werich.enteract.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA00923 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 1 Jun 2000 20:15:49 -0500 Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 20:15:49 -0500 From: Andrew Eichmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Max_K=FCnemann?= [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: device busy / ZIP-drive Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Now, it appears that it's complaining that DNS can't find werich.enteract.com, which is my linux box's domain name. I have the following in my muttrc: my_hdr Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set hidden_host set hostname="enteract.com" I used to run pine, and didn't have this problem after I forced the header to say [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sorry if this has been covered; I searched the archives for ``bounce''... Thanks, Andy
Re: bouncing emails from temp. domain
Andrew Eichmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Thu, 08 Jun 2000: - Transcript of session follows - ... while talking to mx0.gmx.de.: MAIL From:[EMAIL PROTECTED] BODY=8BITMIME 550 Cannot resolve your domain - ungueltiger Domain-Name in Adresse ... From: Andrew Eichmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... Now, it appears that it's complaining that DNS can't find werich.enteract.com, which is my linux box's domain name. Well, your From header is correct (it doesn't have the werich part), but that is not the problem. The rejection happens at the stage where your sendmail is sending the envelope sender information, not the From header. So even though your From header is correct, the envelope sender is still marked as [EMAIL PROTECTED] There's (at least) two ways to fix this. The simpler is probably to set $envelope_from in your .muttrc, this makes Mutt pick the address from the From header and use that as the evenlope sener. The second approach is to customize the sendmail command (the $sendmail Mutt variable) and set up your envelope sender address in that, with the -f switch. This way the envelope sender isn't dependent on the From address, should that be an issue for you. Hope this helps, Mikko -- // Mikko Hänninen, aka. Wizzu // [EMAIL PROTECTED] // http://www.iki.fi/wiz/ // The Corrs list maintainer // net.freak // DALnet IRC operator / // Interests: roleplaying, Linux, the Net, fantasy scifi, the Corrs / Gravity is a myth, the Earth sucks!
save-hook question
Would it be possible to setup a save-hook that would open the browser in a specific subdirectory so that I could easily the right mailbox? TIA, Adahma
Re: save-hook question
Adahma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Thu, 08 Jun 2000: Would it be possible to setup a save-hook that would open the browser in a specific subdirectory so that I could easily the right mailbox? I just tried this: save-hook "~f adahma" +foo ... and created the directory ~/Mail/foo When I pressed s(save), I got the default prompt =foo, when I pressed TAB, Mutt appended / to the =foo, and the second TAB took me to the directory browser in the dir =foo/. Is this what you're looking for? Regards, Mikko -- // Mikko Hänninen, aka. Wizzu // [EMAIL PROTECTED] // http://www.iki.fi/wiz/ // The Corrs list maintainer // net.freak // DALnet IRC operator / // Interests: roleplaying, Linux, the Net, fantasy scifi, the Corrs / If you don't use punctuation there is no point in what you write
Re: Mutt/Procmail/Fetchmail question NEW colour question
On Thu, Jun 08, 2000 at 10:59:36PM +0200, Marius Gedminas wrote:
On Wed, Jun 07, 2000 at 09:48:50AM -0700, Timothy Grant wrote:
I'm not quite sure I know how to get the colours working. I have run it
in both a Eterm and an rxvt session and there is no colour. Do I have to
do something to turn colour on, or do I need to do something to my
terminal settings to make it work (ls --color works in both sessions, so
I know my terminals both are configured for colour support)
Set $TERM to `xterm-color' and you should get colour.
comparing xterm-color to rxvt.
comparing booleans.
OTbs: T:F.
bce: F:T.
eo: F:T.
xon: F:T.
AX: F:T.
comparing numbers.
comparing strings.
acsc: '``aaffggiijjkkllmmnnooppqqrrssttuuvvwwxxyyzz{{||}}~~',
'``aaffggjjkkllmmnnooppqqrrssttuuvvwwxxyyzz{{||}}~~'.
blink: NULL, '\E[5m'.
civis: NULL, '\E[?25l'.
cnorm: NULL, '\E[?25h'.
el1: NULL, '\E[1K'.
enacs: '\E)0', '\E(B\E)0'.
flash: NULL, '\E[?5h\E[?5l'.
ich: NULL, '\E[%p1%d@'.
ich1: NULL, '\E[@'.
is1: NULL, '\E[?47l\E=\E[?1l'.
is2: '\E7\E[r\E[m\E[?7h\E[?1;3;4;6l\E[4l\E8\E',
'\E[r\E[m\E[2J\E[H\E[?7h\E[?1;3;4;6l\E[4l'.
kDC: NULL, '\E[3$'.
kEND: NULL, '\E[8$'.
kHOM: NULL, '\E[7$'.
kLFT: NULL, '\E[d'.
kNXT: NULL, '\E[6$'.
kPRV: NULL, '\E[5$'.
kRIT: NULL, '\E[c'.
ka1: NULL, '\EOw'.
ka3: NULL, '\EOy'.
kb2: NULL, '\EOu'.
kc1: NULL, '\EOq'.
kc3: NULL, '\EOs'.
kcbt: NULL, '\E[Z'.
kcub1: '\EOD', '\E[D'.
kcud1: '\EOB', '\E[B'.
kcuf1: '\EOC', '\E[C'.
kcuu1: '\EOA', '\E[A'.
kel: NULL, '\E[8\^'.
kend: NULL, '\E[8~'.
kent: NULL, '\EOM'.
khome: NULL, '\E[7~'.
op: '\E[m', '\E[39;49m'.
rmkx: '\E[?1l\E', '\E'.
rmso: '\E[m', '\E[27m'.
rmul: '\E[m', '\E[24m'.
rs1: NULL, '\E\E[1;3;4;5;6l\E[?7h\E[m\E[r\E[2J\E[H'.
rs2: '\E7\E[r\E[m\E[?7h\E[?1;3;4;6l\E[4l\E8\E',
'\E[r\E[m\E[2J\E[H\E[?7h\E[?1;3;4;6l\E[4l\E'.
s0ds: NULL, '\E(B'.
s1ds: NULL, '\E(0'.
sgr0: '\E[m', '\E[m\017'.
smkx: '\E[?1h\E=', '\E='.
u6: '\E[%i%d;%dR', NULL.
u7: '\E[6n', NULL.
u8: '\E[?1;2c', NULL.
u9: '\E[c', NULL.
Marius Gedminas
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Re: save-hook question
Adahma -- ...and then Adahma said... % Would it be possible to setup a save-hook that would open the % browser in a specific subdirectory so that I could easily the right % mailbox? It sounds like what you want is a macro, but perhaps you might want a save-hook that changes the directory based on the message. First, then, the macro. You could create a macro like macro pager ,c "change-folder=/some/dir/tab" to enter the change-folder command (bound to 'c' by default), enter ctrl-u to erase the supplied line contents (if any), specify the path to your desired dir, and even hit a tab to list the contents for you. Now, if you could predefine the directory somehow, like matching on the domain name, then you could create a save hook like save-hook @domain.com =/domain/%O to save in your $HOME/Mail/domain dir under mutt's 'O'riginal mailbox name. % % TIA, % Adahma :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bigfoot.com/~davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! The "new millennium" starts at the beginning of 2001. There was no year 0. Note: If bigfoot.com gives you fits, try sector13.org in its place. *sigh* PGP signature
Re: How do I make pop support do polling?
Timothy Ball proclaimed on mutt-users that: Fetchmail is frowned upon because of the fact that fetchamil basically runs as a deamon. Not by default. If you call it with fetchmail -d foo then yes ... Instead, run it using a cronjob at required intervals, or make it a shellscript. http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/fetchmail/Fetchmail-FAQ.html has a lot you can use. -- Suresh Ramasubramanian + [EMAIL PROTECTED] However, never daunted, I will cope with adversity in my traditional manner ... sulking and nausea. -- Tom K. Ryan
