Re: Lists and threading in index format
And life is good, it works, Mutt rocks. How many MUAs have I tried to find nirvana? How many WMs did I install to enable this lib or that so some esoteric function in the newest ginchey MUA would be available? It wasn't whether this XPM lib was installed, or if that widget was compiled, or having a window for everything. Nirvana is when I only have to worry about my mail. I delt with all 163 messages tonight in a fraction of time I normally have to spend and it was. easy! Remove the shiney distractions and all that is left is how to deal with the process of reading mail, Mutt made that task simple. Thank you, Thank you, Thank you. DAve And Suresh Ramasubramanian said > DAve proclaimed on mutt-users that: > > >Why no threads? No list names in the index? I've looked through several > >sample muttrc files from the site, and read the FAQ but it still don't work. > > > >What did I forget/miss? > > set sort=threads > > Lists has been replaced by subscribe in newer mutts > > -suresh > > -- > Suresh Ramasubramanian + [EMAIL PROTECTED] > "Sometimes I simply feel that the whole world is a cigarette and I'm > the only ashtray." -- "On the Plains of Hesitation bleach the bones of countless millions who, at the Dawn of Victory, sat down to wait, and waiting -- died"
Re: decrypting using gpg
On Wed, Jul 19, 2000 at 08:18:41AM -0600, Charles Curley wrote: > > I suspect that mutt is spawning gpg, which is then hanging waiting for > input at SDTIN. Have you included the gpg.rc file into your .muttrc, as > follows: > > source ~/gpg.rc > > The plain vanilla gpg.rc works just fine out of the box. I have since > added a few tweaks to it, but I don't think any of my tweaks were for > snything like this. > Charles, Thanks. I'm sorry I should have added I'm using vanilla gpg.rc, correctly sourced. To expand, when I open an encrypted message I see a series of attachments (message body, signature etc.) There is no attempt to open any of them automatically or to ask for my passphrase etc. I see, for example: [-- Attachment #3: ATT5.dat --] [-- Type: application/octet-stream. Encoding: 7 bit. Size 2.0K --] [-- application/octet-stream is unsupported (use 'v' to view this part) --] When I open that attachment I see: BEGIN PGP MESSAGE (pgp text) garbage garbage garbage etc END PGP MESSAGE and in the bottom of the console "no matching mailcap entry found. viewing as text." What mailcap entry or entries should I have to make gnupg fully functional in mutt? Should I have an auto_view entry in .muttrc and, if so, what should it be? In essence, what do I need to do to be prompted for a passphrase to decrypt an encrypted message when I open one. Is this normal behaviour for mutt or am I expecting too much? Do I need to reinstall gnupg perhaps? Thanks for your time. None of this info is in the documentation. Regards. -- Dennis Robertson 2/2 Sylvia Street NOOSAVILLE QLD 4566 Phone: 61 7 54742343 Mob: 0419 535539
Re: Lists and threading in index format
DAve proclaimed on mutt-users that: >Why no threads? No list names in the index? I've looked through several >sample muttrc files from the site, and read the FAQ but it still don't work. > >What did I forget/miss? set sort=threads Lists has been replaced by subscribe in newer mutts -suresh -- Suresh Ramasubramanian + [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Sometimes I simply feel that the whole world is a cigarette and I'm the only ashtray."
Re: multiple users
Aaron Schrab proclaimed on mutt-users that: >At 15:40 -0400 19 Jul 2000, Michael Soulier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Hey guys. I noticed that mutt creates .lock files while reading from >> mailboxes, as it should. At work here, we have some project accounts where >> multiple users are managing mail. I'm wondering about mutt's capabilities in >> this area, with respect to multiple users accessing the same mailboxes from >> the same account. >> I don't see anything in particular mentioned on this in the manual, so if >> someone could summarize it's multi-user features, that'd be great. > >Mutt doesn't have any features specifically to allow multiple people to >use a mailbox. As you noted, it does lock the mailbox (through .lock >files and/or kernel locks); this is to prevent mutt and the MDA (message You are much better off using maildir or MH folders for this - you won't need locking and such there. Here at Juno's abuse desk, we have five people working on a set of MH folders, each of which contains several hundred mails. -suresh -- Suresh Ramasubramanian + [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Sometimes I simply feel that the whole world is a cigarette and I'm the only ashtray."
Re: multiple users
At 15:40 -0400 19 Jul 2000, Michael Soulier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hey guys. I noticed that mutt creates .lock files while reading from > mailboxes, as it should. At work here, we have some project accounts where > multiple users are managing mail. I'm wondering about mutt's capabilities in > this area, with respect to multiple users accessing the same mailboxes from > the same account. > I don't see anything in particular mentioned on this in the manual, so if > someone could summarize it's multi-user features, that'd be great. Mutt doesn't have any features specifically to allow multiple people to use a mailbox. As you noted, it does lock the mailbox (through .lock files and/or kernel locks); this is to prevent mutt and the MDA (message delivery agent) from conflicting with each other, not to allow multiple people to use a mailbox. But, it really depends upon what type of features you need. Mutt will allow multiple instances to access the same mailbox at once, and for the most part it will do a pretty good job of merging the changes made by each. It won't do anything to prevent multiple people from replying to the same message or otherwise duplicating work. At my employer, we use mutt for responding to messages to our helpdesk. We often have several people doing this simultaneously, but only one person is using each mailbox at any one time (this is enforced by a wrapper script which also specifies a custom muttrc file). Instead, we have people send different types of issues to different addresses and thus different mailboxes. For some of the busier mailboxes, one person goes through the main mailbox and splits it into several other boxes (it's safe to save a message to a mailbox that's currently open in another mutt). -- Aaron Schrab [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.execpc.com/~aarons/ [It is] best to confuse only one issue at a time. -- K&R
Lists and threading in index format
I've recently moved into Mutt and I like it. I have two things I just don't get. I am trying to get the threading to work in the FreeBSD and Mutt-users maillists but no luck. I have the 'lists' line correct in my muttrc, and the index format looks correct to me using the 'L' as in the default setting to show list names. Why no threads? No list names in the index? I've looked through several sample muttrc files from the site, and read the FAQ but it still don't work. What did I forget/miss? DAve. -- "On the Plains of Hesitation bleach the bones of countless millions who, at the Dawn of Victory, sat down to wait, and waiting -- died"
Re: save-hook not working
Hardy Merrill muttered: > My muttrc has this format for the "index_format" > > set index_format="%3C%?M?+& ?%Z %[%b %d] %-16.16F [%-9.9O] %-33.33s (%4l)" > I screwed something up - I've reworked a few things including > adding $alternates for my email addresses, and now my save-hook's > don't work. > 15 sL Jul 18 David T-G[davidtg ] pgp_encrypt_self with 1.2.4 and g > > 17 F Jul 19 To mutt-users@mu [mutt-user] index_format %F and "sent" mailbo > > save-hook mutt-users =Mutt-users > > When I try to save a message that one of you sent to mutt-users, > it tries to save the message under your "username", instead of > to the Mutt-users folder where I want it to go. When I try to > save a message that I sent to mutt-users, the save hook works > and properly asks me if I want to save that message in > =Mutt-users. Since David's message ain't 'To mutt-users' you problaby forgot to subscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] It seems that mutt-users is not a known mailing list. HTH, Michael -- The road to hell is paved with NAND gates. -- J. Gooding PGP-fingerprint: DECA E9D2 EBDD 0FE0 0A65 40FA 5967 ACA1 0B57 7C13
Re: save-hook not working
Hardy Merrill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Wed, 19 Jul 2000: > Here is my mutt-users save-hook: > > save-hook mutt-users =Mutt-users This won't work, because if you don't supply a regexp with a Mutt pattern operator, the $default_hook gets used -- which will match the given pattern agains the From header, if the message is not sent by you (as determined by $alternatives), or the To/Cc headers, if the message is from you. So the above regexp you showed will match: From: mutt-users To: (any address) or From: (you) To: mutt-users The mutt-users list emails are obviously never sent by "mutt-users", so that's why the save-hook only works for emails you've sent yourself to the list. You may want to do something like this instead: save-hook "~C mutt-users" =Mutt-users (there's probably better ways to match that, eg. the Sender header...) For more info, please consult the manual section on save-hooks, the message matching section, and the $default_hook description. Hope this helps, Mikko -- // Mikko Hänninen, aka. Wizzu // [EMAIL PROTECTED] // http://www.iki.fi/wiz/ // The Corrs list maintainer // net.freak // DALnet IRC operator / // Interests: roleplaying, Linux, the Net, fantasy & scifi, the Corrs / "I respect faith, but doubt is what gets you an education." -- Wilson Mizner
Re: Display of german 8 bit characters (Umlaute)
On Wed, Jul 19, 2000 at 12:23:34PM +0200, Thomas Roessler wrote: > On 2000-07-18 11:54:41 -0600, Benjamin Korvemaker wrote: > > > The only significant difference I've found in > > configurations is that my Solaris version has > > +HAVE_LANGINFO_CODESET and the Linux version has > > -HAVE_LANGINFO_CODESET > > Try explicitly setting the $charset configuration variable > on the Solaris machine. Ok.. The message I'm testing with has Content-Type: text/plain On the Solaris version (which displays the umlautes and stuff correctly) :set charset="iso-8859-1" makes some chars appear as question marks. Changing the Content-Type to Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 makes the chars display correctly again. On the Linux version, the text/plain (original) message shows up as '?' and the text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 (modified) message shows up with \363 and \355 type things. Setting the charset explicitly makes no difference. Ben -- Benjamin Korvemaker There are two ways to write error-free [EMAIL PROTECTED] programs; only the third one works.
Re: toggle use and selective header weeding.
Francisco D . Borges <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Wed, 19 Jul 2000: > I can see the headers with: > macro pager "o" ":unignore old-to old-cc\n" > > BUT I still need another macro using ANOTHER PRECIOUS KEY to do the > reverse action, ":unignore old-to old-cc\n" > > ¿Somebody knows how I can do the trick using only one key? How about just adding the ":ignore old-to old-cc\n" after "" in the first macro? That way, "o" should only display those two headers for the current message, and when you view the next message, it will be shown without them. Regards, Mikko -- // Mikko Hänninen, aka. Wizzu // [EMAIL PROTECTED] // http://www.iki.fi/wiz/ // The Corrs list maintainer // net.freak // DALnet IRC operator / // Interests: roleplaying, Linux, the Net, fantasy & scifi, the Corrs / "I respect faith, but doubt is what gets you an education." -- Wilson Mizner
multiple users
Hey guys. I noticed that mutt creates .lock files while reading from mailboxes, as it should. At work here, we have some project accounts where multiple users are managing mail. I'm wondering about mutt's capabilities in this area, with respect to multiple users accessing the same mailboxes from the same account. I don't see anything in particular mentioned on this in the manual, so if someone could summarize it's multi-user features, that'd be great. Maybe I can convince them to use it. ;-) Mike -- Michael P. Soulier, 1Z22, SKY Tel: 613-765-4699 (ESN: 39-54699) Optical Networks, Nortel Networks, SDE Pegasus "...the word HACK is used as a verb to indicate a massive amount of nerd-like effort." -Harley Hahn, A Student's Guide to UNIX Nortel Linux User's Group Ottawa: (internal) http://nlug.ca.nortel.com:8080
toggle use and selective header weeding.
Hello mutt folks, I've got a small (yet interesting) problem; sometimes I receive messages directed to me and to N other recipients, so to avoid `visual noise` when N is BIG, I filter my mail with a procmail rule that will count the number of recipients and if N >= MAX_RCPT it will replace the "to:NOISE" to "to:field truncated, too many recipients", and put the old one into "old-to". ok, so far so good, problem is: sometimes I'll need to take a look to whom the message was sent, so I just hit "h" and get the full headers, but I don't want the full headers I just want the "old-to:" field. I can see the headers with: macro pager "o" ":unignore old-to old-cc\n" BUT I still need another macro using ANOTHER PRECIOUS KEY to do the reverse action, ":unignore old-to old-cc\n" ¿Somebody knows how I can do the trick using only one key? Maybe using the `toggle` comand?? (yes I read the manual, but I still am clueless on what it exactly does) Is the only solution to rebind the key in the first macro and rebind again everytime I hit it? cheers, -- Francisco. São Paulo, Brasil. __o `\<, _(*)/(*)_
Re: Mailing to multiple addresses
Hello Mutt Users! On śro 19 lip 2000 13:26:42 GMT Bob Bell wrote: > Use ';' before the command (e.g. ';m') to have the command apply > to all tagged records. Thanks :) I should read doc first -- sorry. -- Bi-la kaifa mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mailing to multiple addresses
On Wed, Jul 19, 2000 at 05:44:36PM +0200, Caster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I was searching for a simple addressbook that could work with Mutt. I > have found one -- it's called abook. It's almost OK, I can simply query > it for an e-mail address. However there is one problem: I can't mail to > multiple addresses at once. I can ask abook for a pattern or for 'all' > and Mutt displays all records. I can tag them, but Mutt ignores the tags > :( I starts the editor with only one address -- the one which was > currently highlighted. Is there any solution? Use ';' before the command (e.g. ';m') to have the command apply to all tagged records. -- Bob BellCompaq Computer Corporation Software Engineer 110 Spit Brook Rd - ZKO3-3/U14 TruCluster GroupNashua, NH 03062-2698 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 603-884-0595
Mailing to multiple addresses
Hi! I was searching for a simple addressbook that could work with Mutt. I have found one -- it's called abook. It's almost OK, I can simply query it for an e-mail address. However there is one problem: I can't mail to multiple addresses at once. I can ask abook for a pattern or for 'all' and Mutt displays all records. I can tag them, but Mutt ignores the tags :( I starts the editor with only one address -- the one which was currently highlighted. Is there any solution? -- Bi-la kaifa mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SMTP
On 2000-07-19 14:52:58 +0200, Stephan Seitz wrote: > Mutt doesn't speak SMTP, so the local MTA has to ask > for username and password (AFAIK). Is this possible? Maybe I'm thinking Unix systems too much as multi-user systems, but shouldn't the SMTP client (and credentials) be available to more programs than just mutt? -- Thomas Roessler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: decrypting using gpg
On Wed, Jul 19, 2000 at 10:47:47PM +1000, Dennis Robertson muttered: > Hello List, > I have RTFM, several sample .muttrcs including Sven's and Gabe's, the faq and the gnu > privacy handbook and I am stumped. I want to autoview and decrypt the content of >encrypted > messages. I have tried every entry I can think of in .mailcap and .muttrc to try to > autoview octet-stream using the gpg command. The closest I have got is a message to >the > effect you need a passphrase to unlock the secret key etc; enter passphrase. But the > screen is frozen and will not accept any input. I am having to enter > /home/dennis/Mail/inbox and save the message elsewhere before I can decrypt it, >which is > ridiculous. Can someone put me out of my misery, please. I suspect that mutt is spawning gpg, which is then hanging waiting for input at SDTIN. Have you included the gpg.rc file into your .muttrc, as follows: source ~/gpg.rc The plain vanilla gpg.rc works just fine out of the box. I have since added a few tweaks to it, but I don't think any of my tweaks were for snything like this. -- -- C^2 No windows were crashed in the making of this email. Looking for fine software and/or web pages? http://w3.trib.com/~ccurley PGP signature
save-hook not working
I screwed something up - I've reworked a few things including adding $alternates for my email addresses, and now my save-hook's don't work. Now, I like my index_format because - if I sent it, it shows the address that I sent it to - if sent to me, it shows the address it was sent from but whatever address that resolves to, that address seems to be used with the save-hook regex. Here is a message sent to mutt-users that appears in my index: 15 sL Jul 18 David T-G[davidtg ] pgp_encrypt_self with 1.2.4 and g Here is a message that I sent to mutt-users that appears in my index: 17 F Jul 19 To mutt-users@mu [mutt-user] index_format %F and "sent" mailbo Here is my mutt-users save-hook: save-hook mutt-users =Mutt-users When I try to save a message that one of you sent to mutt-users, it tries to save the message under your "username", instead of to the Mutt-users folder where I want it to go. When I try to save a message that I sent to mutt-users, the save hook works and properly asks me if I want to save that message in =Mutt-users. What did I screw up? How do I get my save-hooks to work again? TIA. -- Hardy Merrill Mission Critical Linux, LLC http://www.missioncriticallinux.com
Re: SMTP
Stephan Seitz proclaimed on mutt-users that: >Hm, what about SMTP-auth? > >Mutt doesn't speak SMTP, so the local MTA has to ask for username and >password (AFAIK). Is this possible? Mutt is better off as a simple mail reader. SMTP-AUTH can be done with your local sendmail (if you install SASL). -- Suresh Ramasubramanian + [EMAIL PROTECTED] As the trials of life continue to take their toll, remember that there is always a future in Computer Maintenance. -- National Lampoon, "Deteriorata"
Re: index_format %F and "sent" mailbox
David T-G [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > Hardy -- > > mutt doesn't necessarily know that the message is from you unless you've > set up $alternates. Have a look at the manual for alternates, from, and > realname. > Thanks - that worked. Now that I'm setting $alternates to a regex for the email address I receive to, it works as expected. Hardy
Translations of mutt documentation.
I'm planning to add a doc/ subdirectory to the FTP area, which should carry translations of the mutt documentation which aren't included with the source code. If you are maintaining such a translation, please contact me. -- Thomas Roessler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: SMTP
Hi! On Fre, Jul 14, 2000 at 11:08:46 +0200, Thomas Roessler wrote > About supporting SMTP: This would be considerably more > complex than the current approach. Hm, what about SMTP-auth? Mutt doesn't speak SMTP, so the local MTA has to ask for username and password (AFAIK). Is this possible? Shade and sweet water! Stephan -- | Stephan SeitzE-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | WWW: http://fsing.fs.uni-sb.de/~stse/| | PGP Public Keys: http://fsing.fs.uni-sb.de/~stse/pgp.html | PGP signature
decrypting using gpg
Hello List, I have RTFM, several sample .muttrcs including Sven's and Gabe's, the faq and the gnu privacy handbook and I am stumped. I want to autoview and decrypt the content of encrypted messages. I have tried every entry I can think of in .mailcap and .muttrc to try to autoview octet-stream using the gpg command. The closest I have got is a message to the effect you need a passphrase to unlock the secret key etc; enter passphrase. But the screen is frozen and will not accept any input. I am having to enter /home/dennis/Mail/inbox and save the message elsewhere before I can decrypt it, which is ridiculous. Can someone put me out of my misery, please. Thanks. -- Dennis Robertson 2/2 Sylvia Street NOOSAVILLE QLD 4566 Phone: 61 7 54742343 Mob: 0419 535539 PGP signature
Re: index_format %F and "sent" mailbox
Hardy -- mutt doesn't necessarily know that the message is from you unless you've set up $alternates. Have a look at the manual for alternates, from, and realname. :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bigfoot.com/~davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! The "new millennium" starts at the beginning of 2001. There was no year 0. Note: If bigfoot.com gives you fits, try sector13.org in its place. *sigh* PGP signature
index_format %F and "sent" mailbox
My muttrc has this format for the "index_format" set index_format="%3C%?M?+& ?%Z %[%b %d] %-16.16F [%-9.9O] %-33.33s (%4l)" and here's a typical message that appears in my "sent" mbox mailbox: 11 L Jul 17 Hardy Merrill[merrill ] Fwd: Re: examples I'd like to see the "recipient" name, as opposed to my name for all the messages in my "sent" mailbox - according to the explanation of "index_format", ### %F author name, or recipient name if the message is from you "%F" should give display the *recipient* name if the message is *from* me. All the messages in my "sent" box are from me - but my name is still displayed, instead of the recipient's name which is what I want to see there. Is the problem that mutt can't tell that the message is from me? Do I need to set something else? TIA. -- Hardy Merrill Mission Critical Linux, LLC http://www.missioncriticallinux.com
Re: '&' character?
On Wed, Jul 19, 2000 at 09:32:59AM +0200, Martin [Keso] Keseg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Bob Bell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote : > > > Well, the "t" and "m" are actually extended ASCII bar characters, > > but that "&" is as it appears. Can anyone shed light on what this > > means? (just to satisfy curiosity) > > No, but try set ascii_chars in your muttrc for correct displaying of thread It works fine without it. The "t" and "m" replaced the ANS characters when I did a cut and paste. -- Bob BellCompaq Computer Corporation Software Engineer 110 Spit Brook Rd - ZKO3-3/U14 TruCluster GroupNashua, NH 03062-2698 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 603-884-0595
Re: Display of german 8 bit characters (Umlaute)
On 2000-07-18 11:54:41 -0600, Benjamin Korvemaker wrote: > The only significant difference I've found in > configurations is that my Solaris version has > +HAVE_LANGINFO_CODESET and the Linux version has > -HAVE_LANGINFO_CODESET Try explicitly setting the $charset configuration variable on the Solaris machine. -- Thomas Roessler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: Filtering messages.
Hello Mutt Users! On wto 18 lip 2000 14:27:46 GMT David T-G wrote: > I don't *think* so, but you could specify a push command and push the > macro keystrokes... Well, that should work. Thanks for the tip :) -- Bi-la kaifa mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: '&' character?
Bob Bell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote : > What does the ampersand (&) character on the subject line mean > when sorting by threads? For instance: > > 5219 + 07/12 Perez, Dick ( 0) &*>RE: Web page > 5220 + 07/13 Perez, Dick ( 0) t*>RE: Web page > 5221 + 07/13 Perez, Dick ( 0) m*>RE: Web page > > Well, the "t" and "m" are actually extended ASCII bar characters, > but that "&" is as it appears. Can anyone shed light on what this > means? (just to satisfy curiosity) No, but try set ascii_chars in your muttrc for correct displaying of thread -- Keso You already know how to use it. All you gotta do is go get it.
